kallend 2,184 #51 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #52 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #53 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight? I don't. But it proves that I don't have to go through background checks and gov't permission simply to purchase/own it, so your example is proven false.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #55 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight? I don't. But it proves that I don't have to go through background checks and gov't permission simply to purchase/own it, so your example is proven false. First you say you built it in your garage, now you say you purchased it. Who are you really, Tommy Flanagan? All you've proved is that you can't keep your story straight about something that looks like a plane. Yeahhh! That's the ticket!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #56 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight? I don't. But it proves that I don't have to go through background checks and gov't permission simply to purchase/own it, so your example is proven false. First you say you built it in your garage, now you say you purchased it. Who are you really, Tommy Flanagan? All you've proved is that you can't keep your story straight about something that looks like a plane. Yeahhh! That's the ticket! Too bad you've never heard of kit planes from up there at the towering height of your ego, perfesser - you'd look much less foolish right now.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #57 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight? I don't. But it proves that I don't have to go through background checks and gov't permission simply to purchase/own it, so your example is proven false. First you say you built it in your garage, now you say you purchased it. Who are you really, Tommy Flanagan? All you've proved is that you can't keep your story straight about something that looks like a plane. Yeahhh! That's the ticket! Too bad you've never heard of kit planes from up there at the towering height of your ego, perfesser - you'd look much less foolish right now. Plane in 11 days Wiki How says it is legalI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #58 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. I don't have to register or get a license for a vehicle that I operate on my own property, and I can build an airplane in my garage. Come out from under your own rock, perfesser. Can you fly the airplane in your garage too? No, it's a bit small for a takeoff run. If you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered and you have to obey the rather voluminous FARS. If you don't fly it, how do we know that you built a plane and not a very large paperweight? I don't. But it proves that I don't have to go through background checks and gov't permission simply to purchase/own it, so your example is proven false. First you say you built it in your garage, now you say you purchased it. Who are you really, Tommy Flanagan? All you've proved is that you can't keep your story straight about something that looks like a plane. Yeahhh! That's the ticket! Too bad you've never heard of kit planes from up there at the towering height of your ego, perfesser - you'd look much less foolish right now. If you want an airplane rather than an expensive paperweight, FAA regulations REQUIRE that even kit planes have to have a fairly rigorous airworthiness inspection, including examination of construction records. Do your research before putting your foot in your mouth.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #59 March 8, 2011 STEP 20 in your link: "Finish your required registration process." From your other link: "Glasair refined the program. After working six 10-hour days the first week and five 10-hour days the second, most builders stick around another couple of days for an official inspection by the FAA and their first flight. " BTW, I am an EAA member ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #60 March 8, 2011 Quote STEP 20 in your link: "Finish your required registration process." From your other link: "Glasair refined the program. After working six 10-hour days the first week and five 10-hour days the second, most builders stick around another couple of days for an official inspection by the FAA and their first flight. " BTW, I am an EAA member And I *still* don't need a license or gov't approval to purchase the kit. So you're STILL debunked.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #61 March 8, 2011 Quote Quote STEP 20 in your link: "Finish your required registration process." From your other link: "Glasair refined the program. After working six 10-hour days the first week and five 10-hour days the second, most builders stick around another couple of days for an official inspection by the FAA and their first flight. " BTW, I am an EAA member And I *still* don't need a license or gov't approval to purchase the kit. So you're STILL debunked. A kit isn't an airplane. Try again.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #62 March 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote STEP 20 in your link: "Finish your required registration process." From your other link: "Glasair refined the program. After working six 10-hour days the first week and five 10-hour days the second, most builders stick around another couple of days for an official inspection by the FAA and their first flight. " BTW, I am an EAA member And I *still* don't need a license or gov't approval to purchase the kit. So you're STILL debunked. A kit isn't an airplane. Try again. Not even when it is completely put together?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #63 March 8, 2011 QuoteI have stated my position very clearly, there's no need to invent yet another strawman. Care to link to that for us? Because you sure get a lot of comments from other posters about how you change your position, or refuse to clarify your position. Can you show where they're wrong? I can show you mine. The Meaning of the Second Amendment Assault Weapons Ban Information And plenty of others. Can you show me yours? So what is your position on individual firearms rights in the USA?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #64 March 8, 2011 QuoteA kit isn't an airplane. Try again. Poor John...reduced to arguing over shit like this in a desperate attempt to make a point. Must suck when your argument is so weak.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #65 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteA kit isn't an airplane. Try again. Poor John...reduced to arguing over shit like this in a desperate attempt to make a point. Must suck when your argument is so weak. I don't own any guns either. i just own gun kits that are pre-assembled ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #66 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteA kit isn't an airplane. Try again. I don't own any guns either. i just own gun kits that are pre-assembled Legally, a receiver without any other parts attached to it is a gun. Even if it has no barrel, no trigger, and therefore no means to fire any bullets. If we did the same goofy definitions with airplanes, the legal definition of an airplane would consist of the fuselage only, even if it had no engine, no wings and the inability to actually fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #67 March 8, 2011 QuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. Firearm owners have more regulations and restrictions than either pilots or drivers.... And firearms are in the Constitution, cars and planes are not. Get out from your own rock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #68 March 8, 2011 QuoteIf you want to FLY your plane legally in the USA, you have to be licensed, the plane has to be inspected and registered Nonsense... I guess you have never heard of an ultralight airplane? Maybe you should read title 14: Aeronautics and Space, Part 103 - Ultralight Vehicles. Plus, it is perfectly legal for me to own any type of plane. Further, if you want to SHOOT your gun legally in the US, there are plenty of additional regulations. But you want them just to OWN a gun. Go fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #69 March 8, 2011 QuoteWho is dodging again? You clearly are. You tried to claim something was a loophole, when it is clearly not a loophole. QuoteBecause I do not believe in banning anything. I do like the idea of rendering the car useless if intoxicated. Well then I guess you would be fine with not allowing cars over 100HP to be driven on the road.... You could still get a permit and trailer them to a track if you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #70 March 8, 2011 >Because I do not believe in banning anything. Dude, you are going to confuse some gun nuts, and they're going to get very annoyed with you. Either you support unlimited freedom to do whatever you want with everything from handguns to antiaircraft missiles, or you are a gun-grabbing ban-happy sheeple. Shades of gray confuse and depress them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 March 8, 2011 QuoteShades of gray confuse and depress them. Funny you mention that, since JR, Kennedy, Airdvr and myself have all stated support for some gun laws. It appears that the 'shades of gray' thing is YOUR problem.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #72 March 8, 2011 QuoteFirearm owners have more regulations and restrictions than either pilots or drivers No f'in way. The FAR's alone are probably more voluminos than all gun laws put together. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #73 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteShades of gray confuse and depress them. Funny you mention that, since JR, Kennedy, Airdvr and myself have all stated support for some gun laws. . Me too. I have not even called for any new ones, just better enforcement of existing ones that have already been held to be Constitutional.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #74 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteCars and airplanes and their users are already subject to very strict legislation - come out from under your rock sometime. Firearm owners have more regulations and restrictions than either pilots or drivers.... And firearms are in the Constitution, cars and planes are not. Get out from your own rock. Very funny. SCOTUS has held that the 2nd Amendment is NOT an unlimited right. The Supremes have authority to interpret the Constitution, while you do not.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 March 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteShades of gray confuse and depress them. Funny you mention that, since JR, Kennedy, Airdvr and myself have all stated support for some gun laws. . Me too. I have not even called for any new ones, just better enforcement of existing ones that have already been held to be Constitutional. Would that be the 'Youtube spying' law that you obliquely suggested in the Loehner thread, or the 'CHL requirements translated to purchase' (which would be NEW laws related to ownership), or the 'psych eval required for ownership' (which would be NEW laws related to ownership) both from the Cho thread? IOW...pull the other leg, perfesser.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
