Another Nutty Tea bag congressman

[jclalor 12]

I love it when they apologize only after they are found out.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/116928013.html

[rushmc 23]

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I love it when they apologize only after they are found out.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/116928013.html

After who was found out?

The person who said it?

The anit tea party dolts are loosing it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,603]

I think the "found out" was the congresscritter who didn't react negatively when it was said in public.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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I think the "found out" was the congresscritter who didn't react negatively when it was said in public.

Wendy P.

Of course

Gotta be held to account for the comments of others

Just like the Sunday moring interview of the Speaker when the talking head kept trying to get the speaker condem birthers

It is just stupid and desperate

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,603]

He's not responsible for what the guy said. He's responsible for his own lack of reaction in a public forum.

Note that I don't really think this is worth all the uproar, but, you know, if someone said something that bad in a meeting you were chairing, would you react? I would. I wouldn't call him a stupid fucker right there in the meeting, but a sort of horrified "excuse me???" or a "I'm sorry, that's not acceptable" would probably be in order.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jclalor 12]

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I love it when they apologize only after they are found out.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/116928013.html

After who was found out?

The person who said it?

The anit tea party dolts are loosing it

You would think when a sitting member of congress is asked about the assasination of a president, he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service. Instead he waits until he gets negative press.

[rushmc 23]

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He's not responsible for what the guy said. He's responsible for his own lack of reaction in a public forum.

Note that I don't really think this is worth all the uproar, but, you know, if someone said something that bad in a meeting you were chairing, would you react? I would. I wouldn't call him a stupid fucker right there in the meeting, but a sort of horrified "excuse me???" or a "I'm sorry, that's not acceptable" would probably be in order.

Wendy P.

Bull shit

If he had agreed with him then yes

Ignoring idiots is an option too

This being a story at all is just more insanity from the left in regards to the tea party

It is a joke

Period

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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I love it when they apologize only after they are found out.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/116928013.html

After who was found out?

The person who said it?

The anit tea party dolts are loosing it

You would think when a sitting member of congress is asked about the assasination of a president, he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service. Instead he waits until he gets negative press.

OOooooooooooo

scary

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,603]

I think the problem here is that you find it easy to put yourself in his place. I don't. When it comes to a liberal congresscritter doing, saying, or reacting to something, liberals find it easier to put themselves in his place, and you don't.

The thing is that we're all human. I wouldn't let something like that pass in a meeting I was chairing. I just wouldn't. If I'm not chairing it, it's not necessarily my place.

When calling for outrage from the liberals for some offense by some liberal congresscritter, you're asking for a reaction from people who are far less involved in a situation than this one.

One other thing that matters is, of course, the context of the comment. That's significantly missing, and could matter. Really.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jclalor 12]

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He's not responsible for what the guy said. He's responsible for his own lack of reaction in a public forum.

I don't think asking the guy to leave the meeting, and then reminding people that kind of behaivor is wrong and won't be tolerated is too much to expect.

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[rushmc 23]

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I think the problem here is that you find it easy to put yourself in his place. I don't. When it comes to a liberal congresscritter doing, saying, or reacting to something, liberals find it easier to put themselves in his place, and you don't.

The thing is that we're all human. I wouldn't let something like that pass in a meeting I was chairing. I just wouldn't. If I'm not chairing it, it's not necessarily my place.

When calling for outrage from the liberals for some offense by some liberal congresscritter, you're asking for a reaction from people who are far less involved in a situation than this one.

Wendy P.

Huh?

I am not putting myself anywhere Wendy

Stop trying to be a mind reader ok?

When the idiot said there take to the street and get a little blody over the WI protests did anybody ask anyone to condem him?

Or was he responcidble for his own comments?

And he was an official

I think Obama should have condemded him dont you think?

Again

The story is a gotcha piece because he it tea party

A joke and nothing more

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,603]

Why is it OK for a congressman to let an appalling statement go in a meeting that he is at right then and it's not OK for the president to let someone say something appalling in a meeting that he wasn't at? Not everything is about being fair to conservatives or liberals, and pointing out perceived unfairness doesn't make much of a difference, does it? That one works both ways, too.

Just about all of these statements are at the "girlfriends, can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em" kind of thing, anyway.

We should take this to my generic thread.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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Why is it OK for a congressman to let an appalling statement go in a meeting that he is at right then and it's not OK for the president to let someone say something appalling in a meeting that he wasn't at? Not everything is about being fair to conservatives or liberals, and pointing out perceived unfairness doesn't make much of a difference, does it? That one works both ways, too.

Just about all of these statements are at the "girlfriends, can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em" kind of thing, anyway.

We should take this to my generic thread.

Wendy P.

Wendy
That is my point

Another aceptable tactic to stupid comments is to ignore them

I guess that is what I should have done to this thread

Based on the title

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jclalor 12]

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I guess that is what I should have done to this thread

Based on the title

You mean like threads titled "Not A Principled Bone In His Whole Body"

[rhaig 0]

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You would think when a sitting member of congress is asked about the assasination of a president, he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service. Instead he waits until he gets negative press.

The SS investigates all credible threats against the president. I think even they would have told the congressman to bugger off.

Have they gotten involved here?

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Rob

[wmw999 2,603]

What he said

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jclalor 12]

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You would think when a sitting member of congress is asked about the assasination of a president, he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service. Instead he waits until he gets negative press.

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The SS investigates all credible threats against the president. I think even they would have told the congressman to bugger off.

I believe they investigate all threats and percieved threats against the president and then determine how credible they are.

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Have they gotten involved here?

Yes they did.

I think they handle it about the same way as if you were to joke at the airport about who may blow up your plane.

[Kennedy 0]

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According to the newspaper's account, which was confirmed by Broun's office, the congressman didn't criticize the man for asking the question, instead deflecting it. He told the audience that he understood their frustration with Obama and reminded them that they would have the chance to help elect a new president next year.

Looks to me like he told the audience what he thought was the right way to get the president out of office.

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Broun's office also said he later alerted the Secret Service.

Ed Donovan, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said the elderly man who made the comment was questioned and is not considered a threat.

"We consider it a closed matter," Donovan said.

So the congresscritter didn't think he was a threat, and neither did the secret service. But with Tuscon in mind, I can understand why he might not want to shout down the moron in a crowd. So why exactly are you so annoyed with said congresscritter?

ps - please work on your formatting. For the children.

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[Belgian_Draft 0]

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You would think when a sitting member of congress is asked about the assasination of a president, he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service. Instead he waits until he gets negative press.

The SS investigates all credible threats against the president. I think even they would have told the congressman to bugger off.

Have they gotten involved here?

Read the article.
The congressman notified the SS right after the meeting. That was well before any news source carried the story.
Since none of us were there we have no idea in what manner the question was posed. Was it asked in a very serious tone? Or was the man laughing as he asked? That makes all the difference in what an appropriate immediate response would be.
To say the congressman took no action is wrong and misleading. He refused to acknowledge the question, which is a good thing. He diverted the dialogue away from what the man wanted to discuss, which was also good.
Could he have done things differently? Yep.
Did he fail in his responsibilities? Nope.

On the other hand, the man only asked out loud what the SS asks themselves every minute of every day....Who is going to shoot the President?

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[rhaig 0]

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Read the article.

yes yes... It's clear I didn't read the last few paragraphs of the article.

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The congressman notified the SS right after the meeting. That was well before any news source carried the story.
Since none of us were there we have no idea in what manner the question was posed. Was it asked in a very serious tone? Or was the man laughing as he asked? That makes all the difference in what an appropriate immediate response would be.

Clearly there was no actual threat, so perhaps the congressman did indeed exercise good judgement.

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To say the congressman took no action is wrong and misleading. He refused to acknowledge the question, which is a good thing. He diverted the dialogue away from what the man wanted to discuss, which was also good.
Could he have done things differently? Yep.
Did he fail in his responsibilities? Nope.

Right there with you on this... I don't think he needed to do things differently. He could have, sure... But I think it was handled just fine.

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Rob

[rushmc 23]

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I guess that is what I should have done to this thread

Based on the title

You mean like threads titled "Not A Principled Bone In His Whole Body"

Hmmm

talking about a group bases on one

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talking about one based on his comments

Nope

Not the same

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DaVinci 0]

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he would promptly put that person in their place and notify the secret service.

He said he deflected it. When a kid is screaming, parents often ignore it.

"the congressman didn't criticize the man for asking the question, instead deflecting it."

And your own source said they contacted the SS.

"Broun's office also said he later alerted the Secret Service"

So he did everything you wanted.

[Kennedy 0]

He hasn't shown in his own thread since I pointed out the same thing.

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