banesanura 1 #1 February 24, 2011 My good friend of 10 years is pregnant. She is deciding to keep it and raise it. Shes 25, dropped out of highschool, has never earned more than 10 dollars an hour and emailed me saying shes "pregnant" She hasn't held a job in over two years and her boyfriend is the same. She can't even afford to live on her own. Worst part is that beyond being a tattoo artist her boyfriend will not be able to hold a stable job. He's got tattoos all over his knuckles, arms, neck and has 3 in holes in his ears. He hasn't made more than minimum wage in his life and he's almost reaching 30. The only thing I told her was to make sure that this was what she wants and that she could have an abortion up 26 weeks. Turns out her mother said the same thing. I love my friend, but this is going to be a baby raised by government aid and it kills me inside.Best Girl Scout Ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 February 24, 2011 Yes, because the worst part about that situation is the government aid? quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banesanura 1 #3 February 24, 2011 The whole situation is bad. period. She was going back to college, but in light of pregnancy dropped out. ugh.Best Girl Scout Ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 February 24, 2011 Quote Yes, because the worst part about that situation is the government aid? this is all you took from that? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 February 24, 2011 Quote Quote Yes, because the worst part about that situation is the government aid? this is all you took from that? Look at the subject line. Now look at the last line of the original post. Now look back at the subject line. I'm on a horse.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #6 February 24, 2011 Had an old girlfrend who went her own way. She met an out of work bike mechanic, dropped out of school and got pregnant. She started climbing with him. He had a lot of problems - tried to kill her a few times, threw her out a window, strangled her etc. He ended up in jail for domestic violence (against someone else, not her.) Now her daughter is at Harvard, she has two more daughters, she's remarried and helping her mother run her business. She also got her PhD and teaches part time. I wouldn't count your friend out yet. People can turn themselves around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 February 24, 2011 QuoteLook at the subject line. Now look at the last line of the original post. Now look back at the subject line. I'm on a horse. funny now, you may not be a welfare mom, but you can smell like you're a welfare mom ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banesanura 1 #8 February 24, 2011 I pray that it turns out that way. I really do. Thanks for the insight.Best Girl Scout Ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #9 February 24, 2011 Quote I pray that it turns out that way. I really do. Thanks for the insight. If all "welfare babies" end up with PhDs, who will do the work?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 February 24, 2011 Quote Quote I pray that it turns out that way. I really do. Thanks for the insight. If all "welfare babies" end up with PhDs, who will do the work? decent union dues paying illegal immigrants ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #11 February 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I pray that it turns out that way. I really do. Thanks for the insight. If all "welfare babies" end up with PhDs, who will do the work? decent union dues paying illegal immigrants That's a relief, I was getting worried there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 February 24, 2011 QuoteI was getting worried there. that's what the PhD is for - worrying, hypothesizing, and looking thoughtful while rubbing your beard/goatee ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #13 February 24, 2011 QuoteThe whole situation is bad. period. She was going back to college, but in light of pregnancy dropped out. ugh. I have a couple of friends whose lives were totally screwed up. Having a baby was the absolute best thing that ever happened to them. After realizing that all of a sudden they were responsible for another human being that had to eat, wear clothes, and needed shelter, they got their act together. One married the father of her baby, who joined the military. She dropped out of college while he was in boot camp and she was pregnant, but went back once they had a life on base and she had a support network of other moms who could babysit. It took her about six years, but she just finished her BA in computer science. Another kicked the loser baby-daddy out of her life (he has court-ordered supervised visitation that he never bothers to make appointments for). She moved back in with her mom, and is going to night school while her mom is home in the evenings to babysit. So there is hope for your friend. Don't judge, she's pregnant, and what's done is done, because no woman should be encouraged to abort if that's not what she wants. Just be there for her, and recognize that she's going to need a lot of support because most of her friends are not going to want to hang out with her once a baby is in the picture. With everything that's going on with her body, she may be better off taking a semester or two off, but encourage her to go back to school later on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #14 February 24, 2011 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look at the subject line. Now look at the last line of the original post. Now look back at the subject line. I'm on a horse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Funniest thing I've read in DZ.com Too bad it is in a thread about an unwanted baby. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #15 February 24, 2011 Quote Too bad it is in a thread about an unwanted baby. It's not unwanted by the mom-to-be."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #16 February 24, 2011 QuoteIt's not unwanted by the mom-to-be. True - and that is the only vote that counts. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #17 February 24, 2011 Quotethat's what the PhD is for - worrying, hypothesizing, and looking thoughtful while rubbing your beard/goatee I thought it was a Degree to Pimp hos... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 February 24, 2011 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look at the subject line. Now look at the last line of the original post. Now look back at the subject line. I'm on a horse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Funniest thing I've read in DZ.com Too bad it is in a thread about an unwanted baby. I had to go a'googling and watch a YouTube video before I got the joke."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #19 February 25, 2011 QuoteHad an old girlfrend who went her own way. She met an out of work bike mechanic, dropped out of school and got pregnant. She started climbing with him. He had a lot of problems - tried to kill her a few times, threw her out a window, strangled her etc. He ended up in jail for domestic violence (against someone else, not her.) Now her daughter is at Harvard, she has two more daughters, she's remarried and helping her mother run her business. She also got her PhD and teaches part time. I wouldn't count your friend out yet. People can turn themselves around. I have to agree. I can't say that I've know anyone to turn them selves around though. It all boils down to if they want to. Hopefully she is mature enough to know that if she keeps the baby, her social life is over and the next several years are work. If she doesn't understand that and wants to keep "hangin out with her buds" or what ever she is doing now, her best but is abortion or give it up for adoption. She won't be able to provide a good life for her kid."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #20 February 25, 2011 QuoteQuotethat's what the PhD is for - worrying, hypothesizing, and looking thoughtful while rubbing your beard/goatee I thought it was a Degree to Pimp hos... Nope. Means they're recognized for Piling it Higher and Deeper.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #21 February 25, 2011 Quote Had an old girlfrend who went her own way. She met an out of work bike mechanic, dropped out of school and got pregnant. She started climbing with him. He had a lot of problems - tried to kill her a few times, threw her out a window, strangled her etc. He ended up in jail for domestic violence (against someone else, not her.) Now her daughter is at Harvard, she has two more daughters, she's remarried and helping her mother run her business. She also got her PhD and teaches part time. I wouldn't count your friend out yet. People can turn themselves around. That's a great story Bill. Most of the children in this scenario end up in a bio-hazard bag at the back of some abortion clinic. But that's OK with the pro-choice crowd....Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #22 February 25, 2011 >Most of the children in this scenario end up in a bio-hazard bag at the back of some >abortion clinic. And sadly that's sometimes better than the alternative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 February 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteHad an old girlfrend who went her own way. She met an out of work bike mechanic, dropped out of school and got pregnant. She started climbing with him. He had a lot of problems - tried to kill her a few times, threw her out a window, strangled her etc. He ended up in jail for domestic violence (against someone else, not her.) Now her daughter is at Harvard, she has two more daughters, she's remarried and helping her mother run her business. She also got her PhD and teaches part time. I wouldn't count your friend out yet. People can turn themselves around. I have to agree. I can't say that I've know anyone to turn them selves around though. It all boils down to if they want to. Hopefully she is mature enough to know that if she keeps the baby, her social life is over and the next several years are work. If she doesn't understand that and wants to keep "hangin out with her buds" or what ever she is doing now, her best but is abortion or give it up for adoption. She won't be able to provide a good life for her kid. Man did you just lose your standing with Turtle and Divot.. et al.... by suggesting she murder her child Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #24 February 25, 2011 Quote>Most of the children in this scenario end up in a bio-hazard bag at the back of some >abortion clinic. And sadly that's sometimes better than the alternative. For whom?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #25 February 25, 2011 >For whom? The mother, the child and society in general. Fortunately they are by far the exception. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites