DanG 1 #26 February 25, 2011 Do you really think it is only the Democrats who selectively criticize? Have you ever said anything negative about a Republican/conservative here? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 February 25, 2011 QuoteNo it means what it means... The union people protest or strike.. and the RICH monied interests send in their goons to break the strike.. beating and clubbing the union members as has happened for the last 100 years. Would that be like the goons that beat up Kenneth Gladney? Oh, wait... that was the union guys. How about the goons that bit off the guy's finger at the healthcare rally? Oh, wait...that was the union dude again. How about surrounding peoples houses and terrorizing their kids? Well, damn...that was the union people again. Sorry - can't find anything on those poor brutalized union folks in the last few decades - can ya point out SPECIFIC examples for us? QuoteI find it very instructive that YOUR hero in Wisconsin.. the Gov... stated openly( well he never meant for it to get out in his chat with the big money guy David Kock that he thought he was talking to since he had been lavishly trikled upon so had to listen to) that they had thought about putting right wing goons into the crowd.. to make trouble. I thought you were so big on Reps learning from Dems... you should be proud he picked up the lesson.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 February 25, 2011 QuoteNo it means what it means... The union people protest or strike.. and the RICH monied interests send in their goons to break the strike.. beating and clubbing the union members as has happened for the last 100 years. I don't see any issues. The politicos and the unions hire in a horde of professional protesters from out of state. The money types hire in "goons" to break the strike (from out of state). State wins as they all pay for hotels and meals (and frequent emergency medical treatment) and bring an influx of cash to local businesses. Everyone wins. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 February 25, 2011 Goons are really undervalued. Much better than cronies or henchmen. They should form a union to get more money. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #30 February 25, 2011 Actually, DanG (who probably counts as a liberal to you) said:QuoteFor the record, what this guy said is stupid, and it is not unreasonable that some small portion of the blame for future violence be placed on his shoulders. Whether the media will do that or not is unclear.Now, he didn't call the guy a fucking lunatic murderer, but Dan's not really given to outrage and hyperbole. For the record, I also think it was stupid. Lots of people say stupid things; if I get outraged over all of them, I'm letting stupid people take up too much time in my head. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 February 25, 2011 Quote Quote Civility at its best? http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/145627-dem-lawmaker-on-labor-protests-get-a-little-bloody-when-necessary Quote Dem tells unions: 'Get a little bloody when necessary' By Michael O'Brien - 02/23/11 07:57 AM ET Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin. Or is this not as bad as cross hairs? No it means what it means... The union people protest or strike.. and the RICH monied interests send in their goons to break the strike.. beating and clubbing the union members as has happened for the last 100 years. I find it very instructive that YOUR hero in Wisconsin.. the Gov... stated openly( well he never meant for it to get out in his chat with the big money guy David Kock that he thought he was talking to since he had been lavishly trikled upon so had to listen to) that they had thought about putting right wing goons into the crowd.. to make trouble. Ah the rich people in this case are the people of WI. The voters And they have spoken And the elected are doing what the people sent them there to do I know it is very very confusing to you and yours"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 February 25, 2011 QuoteAnd the elected are doing what the people sent them there to do I know it is very very confusing to you and yours won't someone please, PLEASE, think of the goons? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 February 25, 2011 Quote Quote And the elected are doing what the people sent them there to do I know it is very very confusing to you and yours won't someone please, PLEASE, think of the goons? I guess there are only goons one one side huhI also get a kick of how the left is trying to make something of the conversation he was tricked into Basicly said the same he has been saying all along But the story dieing so fast is proving that out Now Back to the goons"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #34 February 25, 2011 Goons of the world unite!witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #35 February 25, 2011 QuoteGoons of the world unite! Lets pay our union dues for Goons Local 378I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #36 February 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteNo it means what it means... The union people protest or strike.. and the RICH monied interests send in their goons to break the strike.. beating and clubbing the union members as has happened for the last 100 years. Would that be like the goons that beat up Kenneth Gladney? Oh, wait... that was the union guys. How about the goons that bit off the guy's finger at the healthcare rally? Oh, wait...that was the union dude again. How about surrounding peoples houses and terrorizing their kids? Well, damn...that was the union people again. Sorry - can't find anything on those poor brutalized union folks in the last few decades - can ya point out SPECIFIC examples for us? QuoteI find it very instructive that YOUR hero in Wisconsin.. the Gov... stated openly( well he never meant for it to get out in his chat with the big money guy David Kock that he thought he was talking to since he had been lavishly trikled upon so had to listen to) that they had thought about putting right wing goons into the crowd.. to make trouble. I thought you were so big on Reps learning from Dems... you should be proud he picked up the lesson. You REALLLY should have paid a LOT more attention in History class... if you took any at all, which from your posting.... I HIGHLY doubt.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 February 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Civility at its best? http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/145627-dem-lawmaker-on-labor-protests-get-a-little-bloody-when-necessary Quote Dem tells unions: 'Get a little bloody when necessary' By Michael O'Brien - 02/23/11 07:57 AM ET Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin. Or is this not as bad as cross hairs? No it means what it means... The union people protest or strike.. and the RICH monied interests send in their goons to break the strike.. beating and clubbing the union members as has happened for the last 100 years. I find it very instructive that YOUR hero in Wisconsin.. the Gov... stated openly( well he never meant for it to get out in his chat with the big money guy David Kock that he thought he was talking to since he had been lavishly trikled upon so had to listen to) that they had thought about putting right wing goons into the crowd.. to make trouble. Ah the rich people in this case are the people of WI. The voters And they have spoken And the elected are doing what the people sent them there to do I know it is very very confusing to you and yours Oh really... DUDE... I did not know the Kock brothers were from Wisconsin... I know that is got your wittle mind a spinnin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 February 26, 2011 So, it's 'the usual'...all talk, no facts. Guess that's all you *CAN* do, though, when you can't counter the examples I gave above. Those poor widdle unions, so oppressed. Like AFSCME, the #3 contributor in the 2010 cycle. Or IBEW at #7. Or the NEA at #8. Or the Laborers Union at #9. Or the Teamsters at #10. Or Carpenters and Joiners at #11. Or SEIU at #12. Or American Federation of Teachers at #13. Or Communications Workers of America at #14. Or UAW at #17. Or Machinists and Aerospace Workers at #19. All of them donating 90% or more to the Dems except C&J, who only ponied up 88%. Out of the top 20, 13 are majority donators for the Dems, with the lowest being the afore-mentioned C&J. 6 are on the fence, donating splits between 40-60%. ONE, Goldman-Sachs, leans Repub with 60% of donations. Then, there's the Amazon criminals-du-jour, the Koch Brothers....in 83rd place, donating 1/5 the the amount of the #1 contributor, ActBlue, that poured 51 million into Democrat coffers.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 February 26, 2011 QuoteSo, it's 'the usual'...all talk, no facts. Guess that's all you *CAN* do, though, when you can't counter the examples I gave above. Those poor widdle unions, so oppressed. Like AFSCME, the #3 contributor in the 2010 cycle. Or IBEW at #7. Or the NEA at #8. Or the Laborers Union at #9. Or the Teamsters at #10. Or Carpenters and Joiners at #11. Or SEIU at #12. Or American Federation of Teachers at #13. Or Communications Workers of America at #14. Or UAW at #17. Or Machinists and Aerospace Workers at #19. All of them donating 90% or more to the Dems except C&J, who only ponied up 88%. Out of the top 20, 13 are majority donators for the Dems, with the lowest being the afore-mentioned C&J. 6 are on the fence, donating splits between 40-60%. ONE, Goldman-Sachs, leans Repub with 60% of donations. Then, there's the Amazon criminals-du-jour, the Koch Brothers....in 83rd place, donating 1/5 the the amount of the #1 contributor, ActBlue, that poured 51 million into Democrat coffers. Another fact 700 plus million stimulas dollars to WI 600 plus million to the public sectors unions"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 February 26, 2011 Riiiiigt... try harder Unions do NOT have the resources that CORPORATIONS and the guys like Kock.. You are all about denial Mikee... but as long as your guys are buying the elections.. its all good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #41 February 26, 2011 You are all about accusations Jeanie....but as long as you can get away with not having to provide any proof, it's all good. Top 10 Walker contributors: WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN PARTY $122,767 CONCERNED REALTORS CMTE $43,125 WISCONSIN REALTORS ASSOCIATION $43,125 KOCH INDUSTRIES $43,000 WISCONSIN DENTAL ASSOCIATION $41,000 PEOPLE FOR REBECCA $35,050 WISCONSIN BUILDERS ASSOCIATION $18,038 ASSOCIATED BUILDERS & CONTRACTORS OF WISCONSIN $15,000 WAL-MART $15,000 BERG, JAMES R $14,500 Then, there's the Dem candidate, Tom Barrett: INTERNATIONAL UNION OF PAINTERS & ALLIED TRADES $43,528 UNITED FOOD & COMMERCIAL WRKRS $43,128 UNITED FOOD & COMMERCIAL WORKERS INTERNATIONAL UNION $43,128 ELECTRICAL WORKERS $43,000 WISCONSIN AFSCME $42,100 WISCONSIN LABORERS DISTRICT COUNCIL $35,400 WISCONSIN DEMOCRATIC PARTY $33,640 WISCONSIN DENTAL ASSOCIATION $32,500 WISCONSIN COMMUNICATIONS WORKERS $22,500 WISCONSIN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS $18,000 QuoteUnions do NOT have the resources that CORPORATIONS and the guys like Kock. They don't, huh? Again, from the top 20: AFSCME - 43 million IBEW - 33 million NEA - 32 million Laborer's Union - 32 million Teamster's Union - 29 million Carpenters and Joiners Union - 29 million SEIU - 29 million American Federation of Teachers - 28 million Communications Workers of America - 28 million UAW - 27 million Machinists and Aerospace Workers - 26 million And at *83rd*.... Koch Industries - 11 million DAMN those Koch guys, overpowering those poor unions like that!!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 February 26, 2011 QuoteYou are all about accusations Jeanie....but as long as you can get away with not having to provide any proof, it's all good. Top 10 Walker contributors: WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN PARTY $122,767 CONCERNED REALTORS CMTE $43,125 WISCONSIN REALTORS ASSOCIATION $43,125 KOCH INDUSTRIES $43,000 WISCONSIN DENTAL ASSOCIATION $41,000 PEOPLE FOR REBECCA $35,050 WISCONSIN BUILDERS ASSOCIATION $18,038 ASSOCIATED BUILDERS & CONTRACTORS OF WISCONSIN $15,000 WAL-MART $15,000 BERG, JAMES R $14,500 Then, there's the Dem candidate, Tom Barrett: INTERNATIONAL UNION OF PAINTERS & ALLIED TRADES $43,528 UNITED FOOD & COMMERCIAL WRKRS $43,128 UNITED FOOD & COMMERCIAL WORKERS INTERNATIONAL UNION $43,128 ELECTRICAL WORKERS $43,000 WISCONSIN AFSCME $42,100 WISCONSIN LABORERS DISTRICT COUNCIL $35,400 WISCONSIN DEMOCRATIC PARTY $33,640 WISCONSIN DENTAL ASSOCIATION $32,500 WISCONSIN COMMUNICATIONS WORKERS $22,500 WISCONSIN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS $18,000 QuoteUnions do NOT have the resources that CORPORATIONS and the guys like Kock. They don't, huh? Again, from the top 20: AFSCME - 43 million IBEW - 33 million NEA - 32 million Laborer's Union - 32 million Teamster's Union - 29 million Carpenters and Joiners Union - 29 million SEIU - 29 million American Federation of Teachers - 28 million Communications Workers of America - 28 million UAW - 27 million Machinists and Aerospace Workers - 26 million And at *83rd*.... Koch Industries - 11 million DAMN those Koch guys, overpowering those poor unions like that!!! Is that some trickle I see on your head? YUP, I think you need a towel. You are discounting ALL of the money they have put into that favorite of the rePUBIClown party... those pesky shadow groups... made to look like something they are not... Swiftboat et al come to mind ...BILLIONS... try again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 February 26, 2011 QuoteYou are discounting ALL of the money they have put into that favorite of the rePUBIClown party... those pesky shadow groups... made to look like something they are not... Swiftboat et al come to mind ...BILLIONS... try again... Oh, you mean 527 groups? Let's look those up, then... Top 527 contributors... 2010: Service Employees International Union $17,621,408 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $3,947,750 Operating Engineers Union $3,751,245 2008: Service Employees International Union $36,708,300 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $14,710,447 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $5,879,050 2006: Service Employees International Union $32,929,734 Perry Homes $9,150,000 Operating Engineers Union $4,334,192 2004: Service Employees International Union $53,352,073 Joint Victory Campaign 2004* $37,104,391 Victory Campaign 2004 $32,915,000 Damn, must suck when the money trail doesn't work out like you want it to...no wonder you never offer up any proof - there's never any there!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 February 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou are discounting ALL of the money they have put into that favorite of the rePUBIClown party... those pesky shadow groups... made to look like something they are not... Swiftboat et al come to mind ...BILLIONS... try again... Oh, you mean 527 groups? Let's look those up, then... Top 527 contributors... 2010: Service Employees International Union $17,621,408 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $3,947,750 Operating Engineers Union $3,751,245 2008: Service Employees International Union $36,708,300 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $14,710,447 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $5,879,050 2006: Service Employees International Union $32,929,734 Perry Homes $9,150,000 Operating Engineers Union $4,334,192 2004: Service Employees International Union $53,352,073 Joint Victory Campaign 2004* $37,104,391 Victory Campaign 2004 $32,915,000 Damn, must suck when the money trail doesn't work out like you want it to...no wonder you never offer up any proof - there's never any there! Hmm wild cherry picked again.. Why no numbers for your lords and masters..... OMG.. dude.. now you have some trickle that is even more embarrassing.... new towel for Mikee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #45 February 26, 2011 Quote Hmm wild cherry picked again.. Yeah, you know how those FEC numbers are - I'm sure they're not as accurate as whatever you're getting from dkos. Quote Why no numbers for your lords and masters..... I don't work for them, sorry to bust your bubble.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 February 26, 2011 Quote Quote Hmm wild cherry picked again.. Yeah, you know how those FEC numbers are - I'm sure they're not as accurate as whatever you're getting from dkos. Quote Why no numbers for your lords and masters..... I don't work for them, sorry to bust your bubble. Yeah you just wait around for your miniscule little trickle like a good litle unquestioning boy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #47 February 26, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Hmm wild cherry picked again.. Yeah, you know how those FEC numbers are - I'm sure they're not as accurate as whatever you're getting from dkos. Quote Why no numbers for your lords and masters..... I don't work for them, sorry to bust your bubble. Yeah you just wait around for your miniscule little trickle like a good litle unquestioning boy And like a good unquestioning liberal, you don't mind the unions choking your dues out of you so they can give it all to the party of there choice. Do you think it's right that unions make people pay up to $2,000 a year in dues so they can turn around and use it for their own political gains? In the issue of fairness, shouldn't the Republicans have a law that allows them to force people to contribute to their cause?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 February 26, 2011 SO the summation of the thread is... Like usual, you've got nothing except the same lame insults that describe YOUR situation instead of mine.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #49 February 28, 2011 QuoteHave you ever said anything negative about a Republican/conservative here? Yes, have you ever said anything bad about a liberal/dem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #50 February 28, 2011 Yes. I fact, I've probably voted Republican as often as I've voted Democratic. I'm not too thrilled with either party right now, but I tend to get pushed toward the liberal side here because of the extreme polarity. Have you ever voted for a non-Republican candidate? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
