quade 4 #1 February 19, 2011 I'm not talking metaphor here. I mean the ACTUAL antichrist as foretold in 1 John and 2 John of the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358488/Glenn-Beck-Some-Muslims-want-Antichrist-return.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-obama_n_89983.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 February 19, 2011 Quote I'm not talking metaphor here. I mean the ACTUAL antichrist as foretold in 1 John and 2 John of the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358488/Glenn-Beck-Some-Muslims-want-Antichrist-return.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-obama_n_89983.html Really?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote I'm not talking metaphor here. I mean the ACTUAL antichrist as foretold in 1 John and 2 John of the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358488/Glenn-Beck-Some-Muslims-want-Antichrist-return.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-obama_n_89983.html Really? Ya really have to wonder about GB. WTF?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I'm not talking metaphor here. I mean the ACTUAL antichrist as foretold in 1 John and 2 John of the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358488/Glenn-Beck-Some-Muslims-want-Antichrist-return.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-obama_n_89983.html Really? Ya really have to wonder about GB. WTF? But with 100% certainty - I cannot say for sure.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 February 19, 2011 I don't know, but I am now grossed out at the thought of Glenn Beck wetting his pants. Thanks for the link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 February 19, 2011 Quote Ya really have to wonder about GB. WTF? "Look, look, look, look, look. He's fine as long as he gets his medication..." "And if he doesn't get his medications?" "He's not fine.""There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #7 February 19, 2011 If you are stupid enough to believe that there is an Anti-Christ, then almost anything that follows is plausible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #8 February 19, 2011 What a stupid question. Of course he is. Just look at him. I mean...he's BLACK for Christ's sake! Kinda funny that, when I voted, 70% had responded "yes". HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #9 February 19, 2011 Isn't the Antichrist supposed to be charismatic? The Pres lost that about three months in. And isn't the AC (as opposed to JC) supposed to run some sort of world govt from somewhere in the middle east? And... Yeah, no, he isn't.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #10 February 19, 2011 www.livescience.com/8160-quarter-republicans-obama-anti-christ.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 February 19, 2011 That poll is a worthless piece of crap. Any online poll can be skewed simply by a certain site linking to it and saying "vote here". Unless you think one in six democrats thinks Obama is going to take guns away. Or that one in five independents think he is racist, anti-American, and a domestic enemy described in the oath of office. And my personal favorite, do you believe one in eight democrats think President Obama wants to turn US sovereignty over to a "one world government"? Maybe the real headline for that page should be 6% of Democrats Believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Whaddya think, professor?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #12 February 19, 2011 According to what I've read/studied, I think the Antichrist will have have to be Jewish so that the Jews will be able to accept him as the messiah. The false prophet however may be anybody...I'm guessing it will be the Pope in conjunction with the Jewish antichrist who will play a role in creating a false sense of peace in the middle east. *Edit* I mean seriously, isn't it obvious? Or am I the only discerning Christian on the planet?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 February 19, 2011 Quote Maybe the real headline for that page should be 6% of Democrats Believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Whaddya think, professor? I think any poll that asks such a stupid question really deserves a stupid answer just to fuck with it. Like this poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #14 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote Maybe the real headline for that page should be 6% of Democrats Believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Whaddya think, professor? I think any poll that asks such a stupid question really deserves a stupid answer just to fuck with it. Like this poll. +1 Which is why I voted yes"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #15 February 20, 2011 QuoteThat poll is a worthless piece of crap. Any online poll can be skewed simply by a certain site linking to it and saying "vote here". Unless you think one in six democrats thinks Obama is going to take guns away. Or that one in five independents think he is racist, anti-American, and a domestic enemy described in the oath of office. And my personal favorite, do you believe one in eight democrats think President Obama wants to turn US sovereignty over to a "one world government"? Maybe the real headline for that page should be 6% of Democrats Believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Whaddya think, professor? I think that anyone complaining about online polls in an online poll is inconsistent, to say the least.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #16 February 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteAccording to what I've read/studied, I think the Antichrist will have have to be Jewish so that the Jews will be able to accept him as the messiah. The false prophet however may be anybody...I'm guessing it will be the Pope in conjunction with the Jewish antichrist who will play a role in creating a false sense of peace in the middle east. *Edit* I mean seriously, isn't it obvious? Or am I the only discerning Christian on the planet? Jesus clearly said all this would happen sometime during the lifetimes of most of his followers.... it did not. Members of Paul's churches were also concerned as to why it was taking so long for Christ to come back, as some members started dying off of old age and it was unclear what would happen to the dead believers. John was most likely referring to Nero and Rome when speaking of the anti-Christ. Jesus was clearly a no show, time to move on. It's funny how every generation for the past 2000 years have seen all the "signs" during their lifetimes that Jesus is coming "soon" It is funny that Obama has no birth certificate and refuses to be examined to make sure he does not bare the mark of the beast. Clearly this should be cause for concern of every Christian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 619 #17 February 20, 2011 Quote What a stupid question. Of course he is. Just look at him. I mean...he's BLACK for Christ's sake! Kinda funny that, when I voted, 70% had responded "yes". Don't forget that his middle name is Hussein that has to mean somethingExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #18 February 20, 2011 QuoteI'm not talking metaphor here. I mean the ACTUAL antichrist as foretold in 1 John and 2 John of the Bible and the Book of Mormon: Jacob 7: 1-23, Alma 1: 2-16, Alma 30: 6-60. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358488/Glenn-Beck-Some-Muslims-want-Antichrist-return.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-obama_n_89983.html QuoteBut standing in front of a blackboard with the heading 'Jesus' on one side and '12th Imam' on the other, Beck put forward his theory of how the Islamic Mahdi was the equivalent of the Antichrist. Beck also accused President Ahmadinejad of Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt of calling for the return of the Mahdi in their speeches. The first statement makes sense and can be verified by eschatology. The second statement is a matter of record. But, BHO being the Antichrist. No, no fear here boys and girls, at least in my opinion. The Antichrist/Imam is going to be a very knowledgeable, powerful, charismatic individual. BHO is a clown president with way too much controversy surrounding him.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #19 February 20, 2011 Quote www.livescience.com/8160-quarter-republicans-obama-anti-christ.html Well, there you have it. Democrats don't pay attention, plain and simple. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #20 February 20, 2011 QuoteAccording to what I've read/studied, I think the Antichrist will have have to be Jewish so that the Jews will be able to accept him as the messiah. The false prophet however may be anybody...I'm guessing it will be the Pope in conjunction with the Jewish antichrist who will play a role in creating a false sense of peace in the middle east. *Edit* I mean seriously, isn't it obvious? Or am I the only discerning Christian on the planet? From what I have read, I believe you are on target. Mark Rosenthal, Zion's Hope Ministry, has published a very exhaustive study in eschatology. It has been published in the last couple years of the magazine "Zion's Fire." I think the whole series can be purchased on disc.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #21 February 20, 2011 Quote It is funny that Obama has no birth certificate and refuses to be examined to make sure he does not bare the mark of the beast. Clearly this should be cause for concern of every Christian. The mark does not identify the Antichrist. It is established by his government to show allegiance and conduct commerce. That is how I understand it.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #22 February 21, 2011 Quote Jesus clearly said all this would happen sometime during the lifetimes of most of his followers Hey Chris, nice to hear from you...First, the only thing that is clear is that he said no body knows when it will happen. I've already completely pwned you the last time I debunked 5 of your biblical challenges that came from your beloved skeptics bible... Why would you seek spiritual knowledge from your favorite atheist websites? That would be like going to creationist.org to learn about evolution.Given that you think the bible is total bullshit, I find it funny that you are using that bullshit book to prove your bullshit statement....Maybe I'll feel inclined to waste the time debunking your wild eyed theories once again if you'll provide the two non parralel bullshit quotes that you use to support your bullshit claim.Another one bites the dust.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #23 February 21, 2011 From what I've read about this and seen in documentaries (the book of revelation was always my favourite when I was religious) the most likely translation of who the anti-Christ is was one of the old Emperors who spoke and acted out against Christianity. Either Nero or Domitian. For some reason this is denied by many Christians and they refuse to believe that the anti-Christ has already been or that the writings of beasts and horns are symbolic and not literal. Again one oh those cases where the religious seem to decide which parts of the bible were meant to be literal and others symbolic. Even when the writings of the time often spoke of the ruling individuals the same way as the bible did. Not in an attempt to foretell the future centuries ahead, but rather just speak of what was happening at the time in a different way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DannHuff 0 #24 February 21, 2011 According to the Bible "I say this because many deceivers have gone out into the world. They deny that Jesus Christ came in a real body. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist." Not sure where Mr Obama stands on this issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #25 February 21, 2011 Nice to hear from you. Why would you assume my only source of info is the skeptic's bible ? While for me it it is a fun site, I rarely go there for serious info. One of my favorite scholars on the NT is Bart Ehrman. http://www.bartdehrman.com/biography.htm I am trying to read every book he has written. He is considered as one of the leading scholars on the history of early Christianity and early Christian writings. I find this time period in Christianity fascinating and not for the reasons you suspect. I will never change your beliefs, as you you never change mine. When I post here, I am trying to suggest to people who may be on the fence about religion, to look for themselves about all the different points of view on the matter. You may very well think you "own me" when it comes to our arguments, thats great, think what you will. Nothing I say will ever be taking seriously by you when you have the old " The bible says it, I believe it and that settles it' attitude. It gets a little boring trying to match you with book, chapter and verse, you can find several that say no one knows when Christ will appear again and I can find several that say he will appear again during the lifetimes of some of his contemporary followers. That is my main point; the bible is filled with contradictions. You say it's not, I say it is. Viva la difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites