rushmc 23 #1 February 18, 2011 First off I am NOT one who believes in this I do however follow it out of a sick interest I suppose But, this was the first time I heard of this part QuoteThe argument continued, "Thus, it would seem, with all due respect, that if the court is required to and does treat the petitioners' motion for recusal as conceded the court would be required to consider the intent of the Framers of the Constitution in choosing the Article II phrase 'natural born citizen.' "That is, of course, assuming that the majority of its members still believe that the intent of the Framers is essential to the constitutional rule of law in this country," the filing said. In the original petition to the high court, the pleadings noted that if Obama is not constitutionally eligible, it will create a crisis. "If proven true, those allegations mean that every command by the respondent Obama and indeed every appointment by respondent Obama, including the appointment of members [Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor] of this and every other court, may be only de facto but not de jure [by right of law]," stated the pleading. Anyway It is interesting to follow http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=264897"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 February 18, 2011 Just to follow up I have noticed an increase in the "tactics" of some media segments regarding this topic while doing interviews with Republicans like the Speaker of the House. I wondered why Maybe this is part of it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #3 February 18, 2011 Huh? What tactics are you talking about? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 February 18, 2011 QuoteHuh? What tactics are you talking about? Did you see the PMSNBC interview with the speaker? He kept hammering on him to denounce the birthers. And he would not get off the topic He was rude and insulting to the Speaker There was another similar but I can remember who at the moment I will see if I can find a youtube link for some of these"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 February 18, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRjzttHlG9M&feature=related"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 February 18, 2011 Funny how the president, Pelosi and Reid are never asked to denounce the wackos in their party. How long did it take for Obama to denounce Rev. Wright? This is just the beginning of a long and arduous campaingn against Republicans. Expect it to intensify as they attempt to make the necessary budget cuts to try and deal with this complete cluster fuck of an economic mess we are in. Calling anyone who suggest cuts will result in being called Nazis, Stalinists, Dictators and any other foul depersonalizing name they can come up with. So much for changing the tone of rhetoric and discourse in DC after Giffords was shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 February 18, 2011 QuoteFunny how the president, Pelosi and Reid are never asked to denounce the wackos in their party. How long did it take for Obama to denounce Rev. Wright? This is just the beginning of a long and arduous campaingn against Republicans. Expect it to intensify as they attempt to make the necessary budget cuts to try and deal with this complete cluster fuck of an economic mess we are in. Calling anyone who suggest cuts will result in being called Nazis, Stalinists, Dictators and any other foul depersonalizing name they can come up with. So much for changing the tone of rhetoric and discourse in DC after Giffords was shot. But this is the Admin of Hope and Change! How can you possibly think that?!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #8 February 18, 2011 Wow, you got all that because some news reporter dogged Boehner about birthers? Very impressive projection (in both senses of the word). - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 February 18, 2011 Look at the trivial BS they are already focusing on "he said No New Taxes" he said "So Be It". Anything to distract from the real issue which is "How are we going to get out of this mess"? Fucking whiney bitches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 February 18, 2011 QuoteWow, you got all that because some news reporter dogged Boehner about birthers? Very impressive projection (in both senses of the word). Yeah, projection...you use that word alot don't you? I'm projecting because my father beat me and my mothers a whore. Don't you feel sorry for me? Can I get a check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 February 18, 2011 Quote Look at the trivial BS they are already focusing on "he said No New Taxes" he said "So Be It". Anything to distract from the real issue which is "How are we going to get out of this mess"? Fucking whiney bitches. HEY! Don't call the dems names! You will offend 20% of the country, that all voted 3 times each.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #12 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteWow, you got all that because some news reporter dogged Boehner about birthers? Very impressive projection (in both senses of the word). Yeah, projection...you use that word alot don't you? I'm projecting because my father beat me and my mothers a whore. Don't you feel sorry for me? Can I get a check? You aren't ethnic enough.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #13 February 18, 2011 Was that supposed to be funny or ironic? It came off as unhinged and pathetic. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #14 February 18, 2011 I'm a white American male. What does being ethnic have to do with anything? Sorry if I interrupted your radical right wing circle jerk. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #15 February 18, 2011 Nice way to dodge but if the SCOTUS is still willing to look at it maybe there just might be something there.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #16 February 18, 2011 QuoteNice way to dodge Please show me where I dodged anything. For that matter, please show me where I was even asked a question. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #17 February 18, 2011 Last time I checked Honolulu was in the US. What a waste of time. Actually Obama is ineligible because he is the love child of Elvis and a space alien. It's true, I read about it while standing in the checkout line. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 February 18, 2011 QuoteWas that supposed to be funny or ironic? It came off as unhinged and pathetic. I was "projecting" again. Darn, I need to stop doing that. After all the subject is all about me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 February 18, 2011 QuoteI'm a white American male. What does being ethnic have to do with anything? Sorry if I interrupted your radical right wing circle jerk. Obviously you don't know when someone is speaking to you or to someone else. Ethnicity affects getting a check. Trust me.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 February 18, 2011 QuoteNice way to dodge but if the SCOTUS is still willing to look at it maybe there just might be something there. Dodge? heh - yeah - as if that is what it was. Maybe it was an attempt, albeit a very poor one, at diversion. All it was really was another opportunity for him to start his redundant, republican hating, monologues again. Add him to the list just under Amazon, would you Kennedy?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #21 February 18, 2011 Again, sorry, I didn't realize that I stumbled into your PM's. BTW, get your talking points straight. This is a thread about birthers. Getting a check, being ethnic, etc. is a different frothy rant. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #22 February 18, 2011 QuoteAgain, sorry, I didn't realize that I stumbled into your PM's. BTW, get your talking points straight. This is a thread about birthers. Getting a check, being ethnic, etc. is a different frothy rant. It was a comment to a poster that responded in like form as you did, and you complain? WTF?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #23 February 18, 2011 Quote Dodge? heh - yeah - as if that is what it was. Maybe it was an attempt, albeit a very poor one, at diversion. All it was really was another opportunity for him to start his redundant, republican hating, monologues again. Add him to the list just under Amazon, would you Kennedy? What the fuck are you smoking? Monologue? Get a grip. You might want to reread the thread if you think I'm the one writing monologues. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 February 18, 2011 Quote Quote Dodge? heh - yeah - as if that is what it was. Maybe it was an attempt, albeit a very poor one, at diversion. All it was really was another opportunity for him to start his redundant, republican hating, monologues again. Add him to the list just under Amazon, would you Kennedy? What the fuck are you smoking? Monologue? Get a grip. You might want to reread the thread if you think I'm the one writing monologues. Well not yet, so far it has beed "drive by" tactics.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #25 February 18, 2011 Sometimes the court takes cases not because they anticipate overturning the ruling, but because the issue involved is so important, of such consequence that an affirmation at the very highest level is important. I think this is appropriate. Nothing for Obama to be afraid of, right? If they rule in his favor, and even the conservative justices go along then there should be no more controversy (or at least less, some will likely not be satisfied).People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites