quade 4 #1 February 18, 2011 Boehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #2 February 18, 2011 QuoteBoehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use? Sounds right to me. Bush 41 said "Read my lips, no new taxes" and then raised taxes. Bohener said "read my lips: We are going to cut spending" and then Congress asked for a $278 billion dollar increase from $3,552 billion to $3,830 billion. I guess it depends on how you define "cut." While most of us consider "cutting spending" to be reducing spending like "I cut spending by stopping Starbucks," the congress critters consider "cutting spending" to be making do with less than projected increases, like "I cut spending by trading my Ford in for a Porsche instead of the Ferrari I planned on buying with my home equity loan." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 February 18, 2011 Quote Boehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use? That could have/should have been phrased differently.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 February 18, 2011 He's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. QuoteThe White House has vowed to veto the budget if it contains the deep cuts that House Republican are proposing. Grow a nut sack Barry.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #5 February 18, 2011 QuoteHe's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. QuoteThe White House has vowed to veto the budget if it contains the deep cuts that House Republican are proposing. Grow a nut sack Barry. Right . . . hes as cowardly as those bail jumpers of the Wisconsin legislation.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteHe's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. QuoteThe White House has vowed to veto the budget if it contains the deep cuts that House Republican are proposing. Grow a nut sack Barry. Right . . . hes as cowardly as those bail jumpers of the Wisconsin legislation. Well I suppose you also want to send your rabid RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN rePUBICLOWN private armies after them to force them to your will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteHe's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. QuoteThe White House has vowed to veto the budget if it contains the deep cuts that House Republican are proposing. Grow a nut sack Barry. Right . . . hes as cowardly as those bail jumpers of the Wisconsin legislation. Well I suppose you also want to send your rabid RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN rePUBICLOWN private armies after them to force them to your will. Just can't have a post with an actual relavent thought, can you? All emotion and extremist views. Sad, really sad.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #8 February 18, 2011 Quote Grow a nut sack Barry. He should have borrowed a pair from Hillary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuote Grow a nut sack Barry. He should have borrowed a pair from Hillary. Even Carter had a set . . . setting his place in line, isn't he?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHe's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. QuoteThe White House has vowed to veto the budget if it contains the deep cuts that House Republican are proposing. Grow a nut sack Barry. Right . . . hes as cowardly as those bail jumpers of the Wisconsin legislation. Well I suppose you also want to send your rabid RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN rePUBICLOWN private armies after them to force them to your will. Just can't have a post with an actual relavent thought, can you? All emotion and extremist views. Sad, really sad. You guys must be channeling Sen McCarthy again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 February 18, 2011 QuoteHe's laying it out there for everyone to see. He gets to live and die by taking responsibility, unlike this unknown, nameless, faceless person referred to as 'The White House'. Pretty much, yes. He's out of the edge and if he has any greater hopes in politics, his party needs to deliver. OTOH, if they fail, it probably won't hurt his reelection too much, not nearly as much as other factors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #12 February 18, 2011 I can never see his name in print and NOT read it as 'Boner'. How they get 'Bayner" out of that.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #13 February 18, 2011 QuoteBoehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use? I know you can't help but put in a snarky comment at anyone less progressive than you, but the bottom line is that if we fail to bring income in line with expenditures we are royally hosed. By hosed I mean vastly in excess of "biblical proportions;" locusts, boils and frogs will look good compared to what we face. We are in worse shape economically than was the Titanic after hitting the iceberg. If there is anyone out there with a viable plan to stablize our financial position, I have yet to hear it. Though anything we do now falls into the category of "too little, too late," our only conceivable chance is to stop spending money we don't have and cover the debts we have already racked up. Given the mindset of the body politic, this is not bloody likely. Even if one party or another manages to cut real spending, we are beyond screwed. The difference is like trying to tell if someone who bounced with nothing out was doing a hop and pop or went to full altitude - from the standpoint of the outcome, there really is no difference. You might be right to make fun of anyone who is subject to the illusion that anything they do will make any difference. What the hell, enjoy yourself - it's later than you think. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteBoehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use? I know you can't help but put in a snarky comment at anyone less progressive than you, but the bottom line is that if we fail to bring income in line with expenditures we are royally hosed. By hosed I mean vastly in excess of "biblical proportions;" locusts, boils and frogs will look good compared to what we face. We are in worse shape economically than was the Titanic after hitting the iceberg. If there is anyone out there with a viable plan to stablize our financial position, I have yet to hear it. Though anything we do now falls into the category of "too little, too late," our only conceivable chance is to stop spending money we don't have and cover the debts we have already racked up. Given the mindset of the body politic, this is not bloody likely. Even if one party or another manages to cut real spending, we are beyond screwed. The difference is like trying to tell if someone who bounced with nothing out was doing a hop and pop or went to full altitude - from the standpoint of the outcome, there really is no difference. You might be right to make fun of anyone who is subject to the illusion that anything they do will make any difference. What the hell, enjoy yourself - it's later than you think. BSBD, Winsor I can't remember where I heard it, but as i remember, even if Dream dancer got his wish and the ultra rich, AND EVERYONE ELSE, were taxed at 100%, we still couldn't pay off the debt.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 February 18, 2011 QuoteI know you can't help but put in a snarky comment at anyone less progressive than you, but the bottom line is that if we fail to bring income in line with expenditures we are royally hosed. I agree, but you have to admit the delivery was hilarious "Read my ..... {{oh crap, well it's too late now, damn, I have to finish this, oh well, here it goes}}..my lips" actually, it's kinda nice that he's not all scripted and slick but seriously - both parties just play around the edges - they have to go after Kallend's list or just a big proportional cut across the board of EVERYTHING ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteI know you can't help but put in a snarky comment at anyone less progressive than you, but the bottom line is that if we fail to bring income in line with expenditures we are royally hosed. I agree, but you have to admit the delivery was hilarious "Read my ..... {{oh crap, well it's too late now, damn, I have to finish this, oh well, here it goes}}..my lips" actually, it's kinda nice that he's not all scripted and slick but seriously - both parties just play around the edges - they have to go after Kallend's list or just a big proportional cut across the board of EVERYTHING Look Ma - No Teleprompter!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #17 February 18, 2011 Hate to tell you this Turtle but Ronald Reagan was very dependent on teleprompters for most of his speeches. Didn't seem to be a big deal then, why now, what's the big sweat about it? The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #18 February 18, 2011 Quote Hate to tell you this Turtle but Ronald Reagan was very dependent on teleprompters for most of his speeches. Didn't seem to be a big deal then, why now, what's the big sweat about it? Because there is a BIG difference between being a useful tool and being a necessity that has been proven to be just that, a NECESSITY. Regan, though why you brought him up in this discussion of Boehner, used the teleprompter occasionally, and rarely if ever in an outdoor setting, could speak for himself instead of chanting and regurgitating what his speech writers told him to say, as Obama does. My comment was that, at least Boehner isn't afraid of making a mistake, because even if he does, and it is a whopper of a mistake, it is because he mispoke his own thoughts, noit those of the puppet masters that control your idol.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #19 February 18, 2011 Quote Quote Hate to tell you this Turtle but Ronald Reagan was very dependent on teleprompters for most of his speeches. Didn't seem to be a big deal then, why now, what's the big sweat about it? Because there is a BIG difference between being a useful tool and being a necessity that has been proven to be just that, a NECESSITY. Regan, though why you brought him up in this discussion of Boehner, used the teleprompter occasionally, and rarely if ever in an outdoor setting, could speak for himself instead of chanting and regurgitating what his speech writers told him to say, as Obama does. My comment was that, at least Boehner isn't afraid of making a mistake, because even if he does, and it is a whopper of a mistake, it is because he mispoke his own thoughts, noit those of the puppet masters that control your idol. Reagan, also wrote many of his own speaches. Just Saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,149 #20 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteBoehner: 'Read my lips,' GOP will cut spending http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/budget_cuts_2011/index.htm Noble sentiment, but . . . Sir, is that REALLY the phrase you wanted to use? I know you can't help but put in a snarky comment at anyone less progressive than you, but the bottom line is that if we fail to bring income in line with expenditures we are royally hosed. By hosed I mean vastly in excess of "biblical proportions;" locusts, boils and frogs will look good compared to what we face. We are in worse shape economically than was the Titanic after hitting the iceberg. If there is anyone out there with a viable plan to stablize our financial position, I have yet to hear it. Though anything we do now falls into the category of "too little, too late," our only conceivable chance is to stop spending money we don't have and cover the debts we have already racked up. Given the mindset of the body politic, this is not bloody likely. Even if one party or another manages to cut real spending, we are beyond screwed. The difference is like trying to tell if someone who bounced with nothing out was doing a hop and pop or went to full altitude - from the standpoint of the outcome, there really is no difference. You might be right to make fun of anyone who is subject to the illusion that anything they do will make any difference. What the hell, enjoy yourself - it's later than you think. BSBD, Winsor I can't remember where I heard it, but as i remember, even if Dream dancer got his wish and the ultra rich, AND EVERYONE ELSE, were taxed at 100%, we still couldn't pay off the debt. In addition to parading your poor math skills, why do you have the need to misrepresent others' positions? Your statement above is unbelievably silly.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 February 18, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Hate to tell you this Turtle but Ronald Reagan was very dependent on teleprompters for most of his speeches. Didn't seem to be a big deal then, why now, what's the big sweat about it? Because there is a BIG difference between being a useful tool and being a necessity that has been proven to be just that, a NECESSITY. Reagan, also wrote many of his own speaches. Just Saying. Regan, though why you brought him up in this discussion of Boehner, used the teleprompter occasionally, and rarely if ever in an outdoor setting, could speak for himself instead of chanting and regurgitating what his speech writers told him to say, as Obama does. My comment was that, at least Boehner isn't afraid of making a mistake, because even if he does, and it is a whopper of a mistake, it is because he mispoke his own thoughts, noit those of the puppet masters that control your idol. Actually, no - if you pull up the footage from his outdoor speeches, he doesn't. Obama won't speak in public unless he has one, or this happens . . . Or this Or this etc. (Yes the last one is just humor)I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 February 18, 2011 QuoteIn addition to parading your poor math skills, why do you have the need to misrepresent others' positions? Your statement above is unbelievably silly. How long would it take? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,149 #23 February 18, 2011 Quote QuoteIn addition to parading your poor math skills, why do you have the need to misrepresent others' positions? Your statement above is unbelievably silly. How long would it take? Think about it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 February 18, 2011 Quote Quote Quote In addition to parading your poor math skills, why do you have the need to misrepresent others' positions? Your statement above is unbelievably silly. How long would it take? Think about it. We have. You seem to forget interest.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #25 February 18, 2011 QuoteQuote QuoteIn addition to parading your poor math skills, why do you have the need to misrepresent others' positions? Your statement above is unbelievably silly. How long would it take? Think about it. I have poor math skills so I rely on people like you explain it to me. Surely you must have the answer since you saw fit to criticize. So, how long would it take? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
