wmw999 2,589 #26 February 12, 2011 The answer to your question is that we already do that. And it's damned expensive. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #27 February 12, 2011 >Put them on welfare and give them free governmet paid healthcare and a V.A. >hospital and don't force govt. run healthcare down the rest of our throats. Done! Under the new healthcare system you won't have to have government run healthcare; you can choose whichever plan you want, from whatever company you want. Your dreams have been answered! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 February 12, 2011 Quote>Put them on welfare and give them free governmet paid healthcare and a V.A. >hospital and don't force govt. run healthcare down the rest of our throats. Done! Under the new healthcare system you won't have to have government run healthcare; you can choose whichever plan you want, from whatever company you want. Your dreams have been answered! Pathetic. Really, is that the best you can do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #29 February 12, 2011 QuoteThe answer to your question is that we already do that. And it's damned expensive. Wendy P. So you actually believe it will get less expensive to have Obamacare? http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2011/1/27/cbo-says-federal-health-care-spending-will-more-than-double-in-decade.aspx If you believe the govt. really wants to reduce healthcare costs, then why aren't they starting with tort reform? Wouldn't it make more sense to make some changes in the way healthcare is administered and delivered? How about restricting what's covered like people who make 4 trips to the Dermatologist every year because they have a minor skin problem like Rosacea? Why do we suddenly need this huge govt. program when there's plenty of ways to try and reduce the costs first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #30 February 12, 2011 QuoteWould you rather prefer the status quo? Until we can get something fair, workable and efficient, yes.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #31 February 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteWould you rather prefer the status quo? Until we can get something fair, workable and efficient, yes. so - how long are you willing to wait . . . 1000 years? 100 years? 10 years? 1 year? 6 months? 1 month?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #32 February 12, 2011 Quote Would you rather see a complete deregulation of the insurance market? Typical talking point... we never had deregulation under Bush, we had idiotic regulation, along with Captured Regulators. (EX: The person regulating/watching Goldman Sachs... CAME from GS) Deregulation didn't allow Madoff to happen either... Quote The HC bill is far from perfect, Right, its a piece of shit. And it was rejected when Hillary was trying it... its the EXACT same legislation. Obama said himself as candidate Obama, that the individual mandate was her idea... not his. http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hdqGnz6UqG Quote but there are provisions in place to remove what does not work. Over time the bill could be tweaked so that it works for everyone. What we have now is a mess. This bill is, at least, a start towards something good. Quote You are hilarious. Would you rather prefer the status quo?*** Yup! And then we can pass 1-5 page single initiative bills that will fix the issues that need to be addressed. The free market and competition will easily do the rest. The Status Quo... LOL. Have you read Rules for Radicals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #33 February 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteWould you rather prefer the status quo? Until we can get something fair, workable and efficient, yes. And Constitutional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #34 February 12, 2011 Depends first on when the Supreme Court rules... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #35 February 12, 2011 >Really, is that the best you can do? I don't need to do any better. Them's the facts. Even your hatred of all things Obama can't change em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 February 12, 2011 Quote>Really, is that the best you can do? I don't need to do any better. Them's the facts. Even your hatred of all things Obama can't change em. We will see. I think you've really run into the ditch on this one. Definition of Obama Hater: A name given to anyone who disagrees with a liberal about Obama. Hows the ditch? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #37 February 12, 2011 >Definition of Obama Hater: A name given to anyone who disagrees with a >liberal about Obama. Nope. Obama haters hate Obama. They cannot participate in online discussions without injecting Tourette-like exclamations like "Obamacare!" "Ayers!" "Threw his grandmother under the bus!" "Not a citizen!" "Disgrace!" They cannot even discuss politics without bringing it around to their obsession. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 February 12, 2011 Quote>Definition of Obama Hater: A name given to anyone who disagrees with a >liberal about Obama. Nope. Obama haters hate Obama. They cannot participate in online discussions without injecting Tourette-like exclamations like "Obamacare!" "Ayers!" "Threw his grandmother under the bus!" "Not a citizen!" "Disgrace!" They cannot even discuss politics without bringing it around to their obsession. Bush haters hate Bush. They cannot participate in online discussions without injecting Tourette-like exclamations like "Selected not elected!" "Katrina!" "Cheney!" "Chickenhawk!" "Illegal war!" "Blood for Oil!" They cannot even discuss politics without bringing it around to their obsession.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 February 12, 2011 Quote>Definition of Obama Hater: A name given to anyone who disagrees with a >liberal about Obama. Nope. Obama haters hate Obama. They cannot participate in online discussions without injecting Tourette-like exclamations like "Obamacare!" "Ayers!" "Threw his grandmother under the bus!" "Not a citizen!" "Disgrace!" They cannot even discuss politics without bringing it around to their obsession. You are really grasping at straws to salvage your need to have the upper hand aren't you? Please continue, it's emtertaining watching someone make a complete fool out of themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #40 February 12, 2011 QuoteQuote>Definition of Obama Hater: A name given to anyone who disagrees with a >liberal about Obama. Nope. Obama haters hate Obama. They cannot participate in online discussions without injecting Tourette-like exclamations like "Obamacare!" "Ayers!" "Threw his grandmother under the bus!" "Not a citizen!" "Disgrace!" They cannot even discuss politics without bringing it around to their obsession. You are really grasping at straws to salvage your need to have the upper hand aren't you? Please continue, it's emtertaining watching someone make a complete fool out of themselves. Are we not all guilty of bashing the other side? What starts as an intelligent discussion of opposite views all too often evolves, rather quickly, into a bashing contest in which the original intent of the post is but a mute point. So it goes in Speakers Corner..."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
