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Not good news - the comments and his reasoning is sound - we are becoming the laughing stock of the world.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[billvon 3,111]

>we are becoming the laughing stock of the world.

I think he will be less of a comedic figure than Palin. However, the prospect of the two of them going head to head on a primary debate might just pull us out of the recession on comedian's salaries alone.

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Not good news - the comments and his reasoning is sound - we are becoming the laughing stock of the world.

"The laughing stock of the world" thing went into effect a little over 6 years ago.

It's a pretty deep hole for us to climb out of.

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we are becoming the laughing stock of the world

What makes you say that? "Obama" is not an answer -- what actions or policies are causing that, and how?

I'm asking because I have decent connections in several other countries, and everyone likes Obama better than Bush. He's not perfect, but at least he listens, rather than just talking (it's not "courage of conviction" if you never listen to the other guy)

Wendy P.

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Not good news - the comments and his reasoning is sound - we are becoming the laughing stock of the world.

"The laughing stock of the world" thing went into effect a little over 6 years ago.

It's a pretty deep hole for us to climb out of.

Not to just quibble over dates, but it happened and hasn't been repaired since Bill's escapade with his intern. Even as far back as Reagan and his alzheimers and being in office - but at least there was a modicum of pride and integrity for the office then.

So I guess this answers Wendys question as well.
Reagan had alzheimers(Not his fault, but it was covered up and hidden).

Bush sr was ok - threw up on a few people, but mostly ok (unremarkable)
Cheney shot somone, and made some really stupid mistakes.
Bush 43 was too much a good ol boy, and degraded the office by his speaking talents and his actions, not to mention the unecceessary flight to the carrier with Mission accomplished BS, among many other things.
Quale . . . ugh - whatever Potato Dan.
Obama and his habit of bowing and the insult of getting a peace prize for winning an election, not to mention that he has the reputation that he cannot speak unless a telepromter is in front of him, his wife and her outlandish clothes, his knee jerk reactions and jumping the gun not having facts and making statements "Stupidly" . . . it goes on and on and on . . .

The prestige is gone, the POTUS has become the largest comedy act in the world.

Bring back the pride, the integrity, the image that the Potus should have.

Respect is earned with difficulty and all to easily lost. We may have regained some of the lost respect by Obama being in office, but then it is squandered in one fasion or another by Barry and his wife, and not slowly.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>his wife and her outlandish clothes

Yes. When the president's wife wears outlandish clothing, it destroys the pride, the integrity, the image of the office of President. Just thank God his kids didn't run on someone else's lawn, or the US would never be respected again.

>Bring back the pride, the integrity, the image that the Potus should have.

It never did. His political opponents accused Andrew Jackson of being the son of a whore, and accused his wife of bigamy. And half the people in the country believed it. (The bigamy charge wasn't even completely false.) Compared to that, your claim of "Michele Obama wears outlandish clothes" doesn't even register.

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Does this sound like a guy with alzheimers? He did this without the use of a teleprompter, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKVsq2daR8Q

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Does this sound like a guy with alzheimers? He did this without the use of a teleprompter, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKVsq2daR8Q

It is documented that he had the disease.
No one can really say if it affected his judgement.
it was just an example.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>his wife and her outlandish clothes

Yes. When the president's wife wears outlandish clothing, it destroys the pride, the integrity, the image of the office of President. Just thank God his kids didn't run on someone else's lawn, or the US would never be respected again.

>Bring back the pride, the integrity, the image that the Potus should have.

It never did. His political opponents accused Andrew Jackson of being the son of a whore, and accused his wife of bigamy. And half the people in the country believed it. (The bigamy charge wasn't even completely false.) Compared to that, your claim of "Michele Obama wears outlandish clothes" doesn't even register.

You honestly don't think that the poise and actions and presentation of the 1st lady don't influence the opinions of the view of the POTUS?

Perception is reality.

As far as Jackson goes - I didn't see that on youtube - did you? I am talking in terms of relevant perception of the office. Be reasonable.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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I honestly think there are people whose opinion of Michelle Obama is colored by the fact that she is African American as well. And they should be given just as much influence as those whose opinions are colored by her clothing choices.

BTW, she's had both good and bad choices. Did the fact that Nancy Reagan listened to astrologists impact your perception of Reagan?

Wendy P.

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I honestly think there are people whose opinion of Michelle Obama is colored by the fact that she is African American as well. And they should be given just as much influence as those whose opinions are colored by her clothing choices.

BTW, she's had both good and bad choices. Did the fact that Nancy Reagan listened to astrologists impact your perception of Reagan?

Wendy P.

I thought, and do still think she was a little quirky for that - but that is more now than then - I was pretty young then and not really interested in poly ticks. Psst - I was 11 when Ronnie took office.

So . . . short answer - yes - because wether or not we are supposed to believe it, the 1st lady influenced her husband.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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But do you think less of Reagan because of that?

I wasn't 11 when he took office . In fact, I drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar the night Nixon resigned

No, I wasn't a commie, my boyfriend was a former shipping agent.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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But do you think less of Reagan because of that?

I wasn't 11 when he took office . In fact, I drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar the night Nixon resigned

No, I wasn't a commie, my boyfriend was a former shipping agent.

Wendy P.

Yes. Like I said - Yes - She had influence and I don't consider Astrology to be a good advisory technique.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[wmw999 2,587]

Nope, it's not. It was a comedy then, and Michelle Obama's taste in clothing is a non-issue now. I was not a great Reagan fan (imagine that!), but I sure didn't think he paid astrology much mind. I couldn't care less what Michelle wears as long as it's clean.

Hey -- at least she's not wearing French fashions (well mostly). She wears American designers who reflect her taste. She's not that frilly, deal with it.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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When you said it was good news I thought maybe Palin had decided to run as a Democrat.

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Reagan comes to mind

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

A bit more good news - a GOPer starting to demand solutions from his party, instead of just the endless bitching and blamestorming.

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House Republican on health law repeal: Time for GOP to "put up or shut up"
By Greg Sargent

In another sign that the politics of repeal are far from a slam dunk for many Republicans, a House GOPer went way off the national Republican Party's message on the health law, dismissing the House vote for repeal as merely "ceremonial" and saying it was time for the GOP to "put up or shut up" on their promise to "repeal and replace."

GOP Rep. Richard Hanna of New York made the comments in an interview with the Auburn Citizen.. . .

"They've complained for two years about this health care bill. They've offered alternatives, but they're not alternatives that are in many ways viable. Well, now they have to put up the goods. They have to say 'here's what we're presenting, here's why it will work.'

Let's see what they do. I say give them a chance. Let the Republican party put up or shut up."

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A bit more good news - a GOPer starting to demand solutions from his party, instead of just the endless bitching and blamestorming.

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House Republican on health law repeal: Time for GOP to "put up or shut up"
By Greg Sargent

In another sign that the politics of repeal are far from a slam dunk for many Republicans, a House GOPer went way off the national Republican Party's message on the health law, dismissing the House vote for repeal as merely "ceremonial" and saying it was time for the GOP to "put up or shut up" on their promise to "repeal and replace."

GOP Rep. Richard Hanna of New York made the comments in an interview with the Auburn Citizen.. . .

"They've complained for two years about this health care bill. They've offered alternatives, but they're not alternatives that are in many ways viable. Well, now they have to put up the goods. They have to say 'here's what we're presenting, here's why it will work.'

Let's see what they do. I say give them a chance. Let the Republican party put up or shut up."

Agreed
and if they do not do what they are expected to do we will send in another class with even fewer Dems in the group

I dont think the electorate is going to forget anything any time soon

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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When you said it was good news I thought maybe Palin had decided to run as a Democrat.

She would still get elected

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Does this sound like a guy with alzheimers? He did this without the use of a teleprompter, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKVsq2daR8Q

Every single President since JFK has used the teleprompter. Reagan used one for near every speech. Nothing wrong with doing so as it is no different than reading from a sheet of paper on the podium.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4848259-503544.html

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Classy

Not so much

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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But do you think less of Reagan because of that?

Yes.

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In fact, I drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar the night Nixon resigned....No, I wasn't a commie, my boyfriend was a former shipping agent contraband importer.

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