skinnay 0 #26 February 10, 2011 Quote Quote Sorry all those signs confuse you. If some day you ever leave your beloved country, I'm sure you'll find its not that intimidating. But imagine you were living in one of those countries (god forbid), wouldn't it make sense if they had a driving test in English that would explain it to you 1st of all - i notice that you didn't answer the questions about what they all said - and could you do that at 88 KM/hr going down a 2 lane street? And no, ABsolutely NOT would I expect to be given a driving test in English if I were in France, or Italy, or wherever - That is thier country, thier culture, either I adapt or I don't get the priveledge to drive. It really is time for people to stop wanting everything catered to them, and just do the right thing. You actually do get the privilege of driving over there. As they get the privilege of driving here. I'm sorry you feel that "doing the right thing" is requiring everyone to speak english, but that has never been the way things are done in america. If you don't like it, leave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 February 10, 2011 Quote>Maybe we should also disallow the police to pull over drivers who >are swerving back and forth on the road . . . Yeah. And we should ban forks, too! Forks can kill people, you know. And banning forks is exactly like racial profiling, which is also the same as letting drunks drive without fear of being pulled over. How short sighted What about sporks?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #28 February 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteThe reason given: Passing the bill will make the state have a bad image. It's a sign of the politically-correct times. We'd rather be killed than to be called racist. Same thing happens with terrorism legislation. We can't profile muslim terrorists because we'd be called racist, and we have to strip search grandma's to appear to be fair. "Muslim" isn't a race.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #29 February 10, 2011 >What about sporks? And pointy sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 February 10, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Sorry all those signs confuse you. If some day you ever leave your beloved country, I'm sure you'll find its not that intimidating. But imagine you were living in one of those countries (god forbid), wouldn't it make sense if they had a driving test in English that would explain it to you 1st of all - i notice that you didn't answer the questions about what they all said - and could you do that at 88 KM/hr going down a 2 lane street? And no, ABsolutely NOT would I expect to be given a driving test in English if I were in France, or Italy, or wherever - That is thier country, thier culture, either I adapt or I don't get the priveledge to drive. It really is time for people to stop wanting everything catered to them, and just do the right thing. You actually do get the privilege of driving over there. As they get the privilege of driving here. I'm sorry you feel that "doing the right thing" is requiring everyone to speak english, but that has never been the way things are done in america. If you don't like it, leave. I would not require anyone in France, Spain, Italy, etc to speak English, The last time I was there,(europe and the middle east) they didn't require a driving TEST for the priveledge of driving. I wasn't required to get a liscense, my US liscense was sufficient (except in Saudi where they issued you one of thiers on the merits of your US liscense). If I were moving there, or becoming a resident of some kind, I would be required to get a driving liscense. In which case I would hope that the country did not spend the effort or money trying to cater to my whims. Quote If you don't like it, leave So, you obviously never heard of that pesky little freedom of speech amendment, huh? Actually what you are saying is that you are sorry that I don't agree with you, and youwould rather me be exhiled from the country.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #31 February 10, 2011 >So, you obviously never heard of that pesky little freedom of speech amendment, huh? It is indeed pesky. It means people can speak their minds, or complain about government, or even speak Spanish. It also means that Georgia can do their driving test in whatever language they like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 February 10, 2011 Quote>So, you obviously never heard of that pesky little freedom of speech amendment, huh? It is indeed pesky. It means people can speak their minds, or complain about government, or even speak Spanish. It also means that Georgia can do their driving test in whatever language they like. Yes, it does, unless a bill is passed that prohibits that. Which would come from people like me that think that every country should have a national language for ease and efficiency, and that visitors or prospective citizens should have to learn that language in a fasion that would allow them to function literally enough to pass a driving test.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #33 February 10, 2011 >Yes, it does, unless a bill is passed that prohibits that. Nope. Laws are subject to the US Constitution. >Which would come from people like me that think that every country should have >a national language for ease and efficiency, and that visitors or prospective citizens >should have to learn that language in a fasion that would allow them to function >literally enough to pass a driving test. Yep. Lots of things would be easy. Heck, having a state religion would end a lot of the religious problems we have here in the US. Ending free speech would let us arrest people who leak secrets, and make controversial events a lot more efficient to police. Censoring the Internet would reduce hate speech and increase support of the federal government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #34 February 10, 2011 Quote>Yes, it does, unless a bill is passed that prohibits that. Nope. Laws are subject to the US Constitution. >Which would come from people like me that think that every country should have >a national language for ease and efficiency, and that visitors or prospective citizens >should have to learn that language in a fasion that would allow them to function >literally enough to pass a driving test. Yep. Lots of things would be easy. Heck, having a state religion would end a lot of the religious problems we have here in the US. Ending free speech would let us arrest people who leak secrets, and make controversial events a lot more efficient to police. Censoring the Internet would reduce hate speech and increase support of the federal government. Here we go with another of Andy's labeled Bad analogies.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #35 February 10, 2011 What about the International Driver's License? Would that go away? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #36 February 10, 2011 QuoteWhat about the International Driver's License? Would that go away? Wendy P. No. Why would it - it is set up the same way. It is only good for visitations and temporary visas. AFAIKI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #37 February 10, 2011 Yes, but it allows you to drive where you don't understand the official language. Isn't that what you object to? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #38 February 10, 2011 QuoteYes, but it allows you to drive where you don't understand the official language. Isn't that what you object to? Wendy P. No - and I'm just not clarifying enough, I suppose. My beef is with requiring the driving test to be written and tested in a multi-lingual format. I am against anyone having to spend money, form commissions, hire more people, and spend more bureaucratic energy and rescources overseeing and implementing anything but an English version. I would HOPE that all other countries would be the same way. I don't want to be pandered to. I don't want to be catered to. I sure as hell don't think that the government has the time, energy, or rescorses to do this either. It is a completely unnecessary expediture.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #39 February 10, 2011 Can they be in Spanish in Puerto Rico? Are there cases where safety should trump universal national language mandates? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #40 February 10, 2011 QuoteCan they be in Spanish in Puerto Rico? Are there cases where safety should trump universal national language mandates? Wendy P. Perhaps, file a waiver if need be. If it is approved then that one case can be dealt with. On the norm or the majority whole, no.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #41 February 10, 2011 QuoteWhen you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me!witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #42 February 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote The reason given: Passing the bill will make the state have a bad image. It's a sign of the politically-correct times. We'd rather be killed than to be called racist. Same thing happens with terrorism legislation. We can't profile muslim terrorists because we'd be called racist, and we have to strip search grandma's to appear to be fair. "Muslim" isn't a race. Your right. It's a state of mind. Depending on who guided you to that state of mind it is much more dangerous."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #43 February 11, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote The reason given: Passing the bill will make the state have a bad image. It's a sign of the politically-correct times. We'd rather be killed than to be called racist. Same thing happens with terrorism legislation. We can't profile muslim terrorists because we'd be called racist, and we have to strip search grandma's to appear to be fair. "Muslim" isn't a race. Your right. It's a state of mind. Depending on who guided you to that state of mind it is much more dangerous. Islam is . . . The Nation of Islam.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #44 February 11, 2011 Quote I agree that, as a matter of safety, all licensed drivers should be able to read basic traffic signs printed in English. But I don't think there's anything unsafe about allowing an applicant to read and answer, say, "Which car has the right of way at this stop-sign intersection?" in a foreign language. Good for some traffic signs. Not good for informational signs. No turn on red. Bridge out Electronic signs regardless of content Slow down Reduce speed Do not enter School zone Watch for children ...just to name a few. Not heeding the signs could result in tragedy and yes, that's true even for the bozos who CAN read them. And yes, the same scenario applies to other countries. If the signs are written French, then you should damn well be testing reading comprehension in French. As far as driving goes, being able to read a restaurant menu in English is not important. Reading and understanding driving rules and signs IS important.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #45 February 11, 2011 Quote Your right. It's a state of mind. Depending on who guided you to that state of mind it is much more dangerous. Sounds like a peyote religion. In that case, I'm not here...I'm out of state.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 February 11, 2011 QuoteYeah. And we should ban forks, too! . You're going to be haunted by John Candy, Chris Farley and Fatty Arbuckle.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #47 February 11, 2011 Nobody has any comment on the "image" reasoning? What could possibly hurt Georgia's image? Oooo, oooo... I know! If Alabama's average IQ suddenly spurted into double-digits! My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #48 February 11, 2011 QuoteNo turn on red. Bridge out Electronic signs regardless of content Slow down Reduce speed Do not enter School zone Watch for children You don't think understandable, internationally-recognized symbols and/or graphics can represent most of those concepts? I sure do. BTW, I don't know of any US states that do not honor international licenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #49 February 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteNo turn on red. Bridge out Electronic signs regardless of content Slow down Reduce speed Do not enter School zone Watch for children You don't think understandable, internationally-recognized symbols and/or graphics can represent most of those concepts? I sure do. In the future, maybe...what about NOW? And...this list is only a small sample. Think about how many possibilites there are. Hell, NOBODY would be able to remember all of them!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #50 February 12, 2011 >In the future, maybe...what about NOW? They have them. Now. It's why I can drive a car in France or Mexico without much trouble. >Think about how many possibilites there are. Hell, NOBODY would be able >to remember all of them! They already do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
