The Constitutionality of 'Douche Bag.'

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The Constitutionality of ‘Douche Bag.'

Yes, you have the right to say "douche bag." You can even call an officer a "douche bag." Even the DA agrees with that. But when you act like a douche bag and obstruct officers, you're on your own, douche bag.

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The Constitutionality of ‘Douche Bag.'

Yes, you have the right to say "douche bag." You can even call an officer a "douche bag." Even the DA agrees with that. But when you act like a douche bag and obstruct officers, you're on your own, douche bag.

Ok we get it... COMPLY or else in our wonderful police state of AMERIKA....

[billvon 3,116]

Apparently it will be legal all the way through the 23rd century:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UACK93xF-FE&feature=related

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So, how would things go in your little world where law enforcement didn't have authority to control a scene or arrest drunken fools for resisting delaying or obstructing them?

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So, how would things go in your little world where law enforcement didn't have authority to control a scene or arrest drunken fools for resisting delaying or obstructing them?

Oh in my world I would prefer the police to not act like thugs and bullies.

I guess the guy is lucky he did not get a beat down to "teach him a lesson"

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and the award for first mindless police bashing post without mentioning the OP or issue is...
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So, how would things go in your little world where law enforcement didn't have authority to control a scene or arrest drunken fools for resisting delaying or obstructing them?

Oh in my world I would prefer the police to not act like thugs and bullies.

I guess the guy is lucky he did not get a beat down to "teach him a lesson"

did they beat him? Did they use unlawful force? I didn't read that in the article. (did we read the same article?)

I read that he obstructed the police from responding to a call. Then when they arrested him, he called them douche bag.

It sounds to me like the charge should have been obstruction all along.

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Oh in my world I would prefer the police to not act like thugs and bullies.

I guess the guy is lucky he did not get a beat down to "teach him a lesson"

did they beat him? Did they use unlawful force? I didn't read that in the article. (did we read the same article?)

I read that he obstructed the police from responding to a call. Then when they arrested him, he called them douche bag.

It sounds to me like the charge should have been obstruction all along.

I don't know what Jeanne was reading, or if she bothered to read the article at all. She's complaining about police acting like thugs and bullies, but the article didn't call anyone thugs or bullies, and she didn't bother to describe any action that makes her call them thugs or bullies. If I didn't give her the benefit of the doubt, then I could draw a reasonable conclusion that she just thinks all police are thugs and bullies.

Your summary on the other hand seems right on except that the douche bag called the officers douche bags before they arrested him, not after. This strikes me as a case where officers did all they could to avoid making an arrest, and the 'douche bag' screaming douche bag kept pushing it until they had no choice. But apparently some here think that officers exercising reasonable discretion and giving people chances is acting like thugs and bullies.

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Oh in my world I would prefer the police to not act like thugs and bullies.

I guess the guy is lucky he did not get a beat down to "teach him a lesson"

did they beat him? Did they use unlawful force? I didn't read that in the article. (did we read the same article?)

I read that he obstructed the police from responding to a call. Then when they arrested him, he called them douche bag.

It sounds to me like the charge should have been obstruction all along.

I don't know what Jeanne was reading, or if she bothered to read the article at all. She's complaining about police acting like thugs and bullies, but the article didn't call anyone thugs or bullies, and she didn't bother to describe any action that makes her call them thugs or bullies. If I didn't give her the benefit of the doubt, then I could draw a reasonable conclusion that she just thinks all police are thugs and bullies.

Your summary on the other hand seems right on except that the douche bag called the officers douche bags before they arrested him, not after. This strikes me as a case where officers did all they could to avoid making an arrest, and the 'douche bag' screaming douche bag kept pushing it until they had no choice. But apparently some here think that officers exercising reasonable discretion and giving people chances is acting like thugs and bullies.

And some people here expect EVERYONE to kiss thier buttocks when they are in uniform.... YOU WILL COMPLY

Power trip much?????

Its VERY good for those who get off on the power of being a policeman in a police state, and makes it a 90 degree slope to shooting a guy in his house dead for daring to raise a golf club.

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Are there any countries you don't consider a "police state?"

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The Constitutionality of ‘Douche Bag.'

Yes, you have the right to say "douche bag." You can even call an officer a "douche bag." Even the DA agrees with that. But when you act like a douche bag and obstruct officers, you're on your own, douche bag.

Dangerous territory here. To loyal to King and country to voice my opinion

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

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Then why do you take umbrage when I call Kalland a douche bag for being a douche bag?

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Legally protected from government action is a very different standard from appropriate and allowed in these forums. No matter his true it is or isn't.

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The Constitutionality of ‘Douche Bag.'

Yes, you have the right to say "douche bag." You can even call an officer a "douche bag." Even the DA agrees with that. But when you act like a douche bag and obstruct officers, you're on your own, douche bag.

Concur. He had a First Amendment right, but if he obstructed officers then he deserved to be arrested.

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How come you don't have the consitutional right to call a judge a douchbag? I know a couple I'd like to.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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How come you don't have the consitutional right to call a judge a douchbag? I know a couple I'd like to.

in the judges courtroom? That would be contempt. I've heard about challenges of contempt charges on constitutional grounds, but haven't researched the subject. Some of the lawyer-types here might know a bit about that.

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in the judges courtroom? That would be contempt. I've heard about challenges of contempt charges on constitutional grounds, but haven't researched the subject. Some of the lawyer-types here might know a bit about that.

Yes, I am sure I would be charged with contempt. That's why I haven't done it. I've already skated perilously close to the contempt line. Pretty much as pure a violation of free speech rights as you can get.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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How come you don't have the consitutional right to call a judge a douchbag? I know a couple I'd like to.

And what would be the fierce and open political discourse that would be communicated by such commentary that needs protecting?

Instead of calling him asshole in his courtroom, how about using your right for real change rather than just making yourself feel good. Go to the town square and speak about the judges and how they don't support the law, and how they abuse their position and how the people should get up and vote them out. Use it to do some good, rather than some temporary nonsense.

Yeah, just vomiting out any random, pointless thing and not having the gov shut it down is protected (should be under law).

So certainly calling insults to random people is protected, it's a pretty stupid exercise of our rights. A hell of a lot different than standing in town square and giving a speech over how the war is mishandled, or how we should be spending our precious tax dollars, or engaging in a productive speech about rights - it seems people get more upset about wearing profane t-shirts, or getting to swear at cops.

Nevertheless, I'll stick up for the right to publicly be an asshole because it also means the right to speak for something worthwhile isn't restricted along with it.

Of course I'll always support yelling "HEY, Asshole" in the planes at a boogie. But that's for different reasons.

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>How come you don't have the consitutional right to call a judge a douchbag?

You do - in every setting except in a courtroom, when court is in session. Disrupting a trial by (for example) engaging in a long, profane monologue deprives others of their sixth amendment rights.