kallend 2,184 #1 January 18, 2011 www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 January 18, 2011 Quotewww.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html It is by Krugman He is fucking scum I will not read it His shit on Palin regarding the AZ shoting should scare anybody as well as get his ass put out on the street looking for a job No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 January 19, 2011 uh, it's the opinion section. Logic is rarely nearby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 January 19, 2011 Quoteuh, it's the opinion section. Logic is rarely nearby. Right - but he is an expert that the OP agrees with - hence given the nod and a vetted as "Credible".I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #5 January 19, 2011 Requires logging in, can't see what you're offering. Is it about politics, religion or both?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #6 January 19, 2011 QuoteRequires logging in, can't see what you're offering. Is it about politics, religion or both? It is about bullshit. The lying author uses crappy analogies, relies on the fantasy budget numbers forced upon the congressional budget office, and tops it off with this real whopper: QuoteThey’re against reform because it would cover the uninsured — and that’s something they just don’t want to do. After his recent Tucson shooting verbal diarrhea and now this - how in the hell does this guy have a job? Because his bosses like his politics is the 'logical' conclusion. He is waging a war on truth.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #7 January 19, 2011 Quotewww.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html The war on the logical thinking of the left is simply put this way. A very large portion of Americans do not want the government interfering with their lives regardless of the motivation.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 2 #8 January 19, 2011 Quoteuh, it's the opinion section. Logic is rarely nearby. It's politics. Logic has nothing whatsoever to do with it.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 2 #9 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html The war on the logical thinking of the left is simply put this way. A very large portion of Americans do not want the government interfering with their lives regardless of the motivation. That's right. I want the government to keep its damn hands off my medicare. Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #10 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html It is by Krugman He is fucking scum I will not read it His shit on Palin regarding the AZ shoting should scare anybody as well as get his ass put out on the street looking for a job No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that Another comment from Cloud Cuckoo Land.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html It is by Krugman He is fucking scum I will not read it His shit on Palin regarding the AZ shoting should scare anybody as well as get his ass put out on the street looking for a job No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that Another comment from Cloud Cuckoo Land. Well If you take his comments about Palin (right after the AZ shooting to be true) the land I am in can claim sanity, and the land you are in is just plain fucked up. He just set a new low taking over for CBS. Which leaves them fighting for the bottom of the political sewer Are you lookin up to them?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #12 January 19, 2011 QuoteNo real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that Your claim that the New York Times is not a real newspaper proves that you are out of touch with reality. Your knee-jerk support for Palin proves that you are out of touch with reality, and with the majority of people in the USA. Also.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteNo real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that Your claim that the New York Times is not a real newspaper proves that you are out of touch with reality. Your knee-jerk support for Palin proves that you are out of touch with reality, and with the majority of people in the USA. Nope What I a am claiming is Krugman is a politcal hack who lied through his ass to try and score sad political points by doing exactly what he claimed the other side was doing (the AZ shooting ) He lives in the bottom of the politcal sewer because of this bull shit he pulled A place you seem to be joining him in by claiming my post has anything to do with support for Palin At least he and you can now be seen for what you are"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #14 January 19, 2011 Ummm - You brought up Palin (post #2, this thread). You wrote "No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that", when the NYT had already printed an article by him. I just commented on your obvious lack of contact with reality.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 January 19, 2011 Quote Ummm - You brought up Palin (post #2, this thread). You wrote "No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that", when the NYT had aleady done so. I just commented on your obvious lack of contact with reality. In what context oh great perfesser? He is a hack You support him You support the papers that print him A sad commentary on your honesty and political postioning."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 January 19, 2011 Quote You support the papers that print him The SF Chronicle has a right wing hack on their columnist staff. Her wacko, poorly written, viewpoints clearly don't represent the Chronicle. They print her because it gets a lot of angry response, and bukko hits on the web page. No different from Howard Stern. You can critique the NYT for articles printed in the news section, but the opinion section is a different ballgame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #17 January 19, 2011 QuoteRequires logging in, can't see what you're offering. Is it about politics, religion or both? Here's a part of the article: The answer is contained in an analysis — or maybe that should be “analysis” — released by the speaker’s office, which purports to show that health care reform actually increases the deficit. Why? That’s where the war on logic comes in. First of all, says the analysis, the true cost of reform includes the cost of the “doc fix.” What’s that? Well, in 1997 Congress enacted a formula to determine Medicare payments to physicians. The formula was, however, flawed; it would lead to payments so low that doctors would stop accepting Medicare patients. Instead of changing the formula, however, Congress has consistently enacted one-year fixes. And Republicans claim that the estimated cost of future fixes, $208 billion over the next 10 years, should be considered a cost of health care reform. But the same spending would still be necessary if we were to undo reform. So the G.O.P. argument here is exactly like claiming that my mortgage payments, which I’ll have to make no matter what we do tonight, are a cost of going out for dinner. There’s more like that: the G.O.P. also claims that $115 billion of other health care spending should be charged to health reform, even though the budget office has tried to explain that most of this spending would have taken place even without reform. To be sure, the Republican analysis doesn’t rely entirely on spurious attributions of cost — it also relies on using three-card monte tricks to make money disappear. Health reform, says the budget office, will increase Social Security revenues and reduce Medicare costs. But the G.O.P. analysis says that these sums don’t count, because some people have said that these savings would also extend the life of these programs’ trust funds, so counting these savings as deficit reduction would be “double-counting,” because — well, actually it doesn’t make any sense, but it sounds impressive. So, is the Republican leadership unable to see through childish logical fallacies? No. The key to understanding the G.O.P. analysis of health reform is that the party’s leaders are not, in fact, opposed to reform because they believe it will increase the deficit. Nor are they opposed because they seriously believe that it will be “job-killing” (which it won’t be). They’re against reform because it would cover the uninsured — and that’s something they just don’t want to do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #18 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuote Ummm - You brought up Palin (post #2, this thread). You wrote "No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that", when the NYT had aleady done so. I just commented on your obvious lack of contact with reality. In what context oh great perfesser? . Try reading the thread, maybe you'll figure it out.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Ummm - You brought up Palin (post #2, this thread). You wrote "No real newspaper or news outlet would carry his crap after that", when the NYT had aleady done so. I just commented on your obvious lack of contact with reality. In what context oh great perfesser? . Try reading the thread, maybe you'll figure it out. it is difficult for you I should type slower My comment is toward your remark in the end Krugeman is not worth reading He has proven that Glad you like him though Makes things nice and tight"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuote You support the papers that print him The SF Chronicle has a right wing hack on their columnist staff. Her wacko, poorly written, viewpoints clearly don't represent the Chronicle. They print her because it gets a lot of angry response, and bukko hits on the web page. No different from Howard Stern. You can critique the NYT for articles printed in the news section, but the opinion section is a different ballgame. Point taken Poorly written is much different that what Krugman is pulling however He is lieing through his political ass and many of his left wing media buddies are still doing it today to try and bring back the fairness doctine and silence debates they wish not to be involved in (cause they cant win them and they know it) Sad and dangerous"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #21 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html The war on the logical thinking of the left is simply put this way. A very large portion of Americans do not want the government interfering with their lives regardless of the motivation. Exactly. There are many of us that want far less government than we have now. There definitely is a war on logic though that both sides are waging. They killed common sense, logic is their next target. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/opinion/17krugman.html The war on the logical thinking of the left is simply put this way. A very large portion of Americans do not want the government interfering with their lives regardless of the motivation. Exactly. There are many of us that want far less government than we have now. There definitely is a war on logic though that both sides are waging. They killed common sense, logic is their next target. Logic was taken on a long time ago IMO Open debate is what they are after today"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 January 19, 2011 Quote Poorly written is much different that what Krugman is pulling however it was still poorly written - you had to struggle through half of it to even get to the point he was trying to make. It's hard to be persuasive bullshit when it's unreadable bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #24 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuote Poorly written is much different that what Krugman is pulling however it was still poorly written - you had to struggle through half of it to even get to the point he was trying to make. It's hard to be persuasive bullshit when it's unreadable bullshit. True"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #25 January 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteRequires logging in, can't see what you're offering. Is it about politics, religion or both? Here's a part of the article: Again - THIS is where you show us where the experts you agree with are in league?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
