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sundevil777 102
Quote>It does make perfect sense to say that he might be taking cues from liberal
>sources of vitriol . . .
Perfect example of what I was saying.
If you think that is some gotcha admission, then what your saying isn't remarkable or important.
Quote"Vitriol doesn't make people kill people! That's bullshit! Oh wait - maybe he was a liberal - vitriol DOES make people kill people!"
Do stuff like that often enough, and people just start assuming that everything conservatives say is a lie.
Your elitist, smug attitude is showing clear as day.
Did I ever say that vitriol can't inspire someone to kill? I think not.
Of course ordinary political vitriol can inspire the lunatic fringe to violence. Who doesn't acknowledge that? Big difference between acknowledging that and taking another huge step to say that Palin is responsible for the attempted assassination of Giffords.
Libs fall for the lie that conservative rhetoric is so much worse than that from liberals. Vitriol should not be illegal. Those that spew vitriol are subject to criticism. That is the way it should be, the way free speech requires it to be. Pressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am
mnealtx 0
QuotePerfect example of what I was saying.
"Vitriol doesn't make people kill people! That's bullshit! Oh wait - maybe he was a liberal - vitriol DOES make people kill people!"
Perfect example of what WE'RE saying.
"It was PALIN'S targets that made the shooter do what he did!!! It wasn't the targets that we had on our DCCC page or DLC page!!!, or us calling for people to be shot, it was ALL PALIN'S FAULT!!!!"
QuoteDo stuff like that often enough, and people just start assuming that everything conservatives say is a lie.
Have the media lie about it often enough, you mean?
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DanG 1
QuoteThose that spew vitriol are subject to criticism. That is the way it should be, the way free speech requires it to be. Pressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
Can you really not see the logical contradiction here?
- Dan G
sundevil777 102
QuoteQuoteThose that spew vitriol are subject to criticism. That is the way it should be, the way free speech requires it to be. Pressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
Can you really not see the logical contradiction here?
I say there should be no laws making ordinary political vitriol illegal. Even a reporter on national TV wishing Cheney would die of a heart attack or Obama instructing followers to get in the face and argue with their neighbors qualifies as protected free speech. I think that same reporter qualifies as a person that should be criticized for political vitriol that has gone too far, but no law should be allowed to prevent it. Free speech allows people to be assholes, and for others to criticize them for being assholes.
I assert that liberal congressional leadership and media want conservatives to 'civilize' their rhetoric because they want them to implement a self censorship, one that liberals cannot enforce by law.
No contradiction is present, can you really not see that?
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteQuoteThose that spew vitriol are subject to criticism. That is the way it should be, the way free speech requires it to be. Pressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
Can you really not see the logical contradiction here?
I say there should be no laws making ordinary political vitriol illegal. Even a reporter on national TV wishing Cheney would die of a heart attack or Obama instructing followers to get in the face and argue with their neighbors qualifies as protected free speech. I think that same reporter qualifies as a person that should be criticized for political vitriol that has gone too far, but no law should be allowed to prevent it. Free speech allows people to be assholes, and for others to criticize them for being assholes.
I assert that liberals congressional leadership and media want conservatives to 'civilize' their rhetoric because they want them to implement a self censorship, one that liberals cannot enforce by law.
No contradiction is present, can you really not see that?
Has anyone on this site ever acknowledged the fact the big time Dem, live on the Hanity Show, asserted HE was the one that invented the target or bulls eye as it relates to congressional districts?
Bob Beckel stated that fact!
Yet somehow conservatives are still being vilified for this tactic
They (liberal media hacks) are shameless bastards. Period.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
QuoteI say there should be no laws making ordinary political vitriol illegal. Even a reporter on national TV wishing Cheney would die of a heart attack or Obama instructing followers to get in the face and argue with their neighbors qualifies as protected free speech. I think that same reporter qualifies as a person that should be criticized for political vitriol that has gone too far, but no law should be allowed to prevent it. Free speech allows people to be assholes, and for others to criticize them for being assholes.
I agree. No one that I've seen is suggesting such laws.
QuoteI assert that liberal congressional leadership and media want conservatives to 'civilize' their rhetoric because they want them to implement a self censorship, one that liberals cannot enforce by law.
No contradiction is present, can you really not see that?
See if you can spot the statement that doesn't fit:
a. Anyone should be allowed to say anything they want.
b. Anyone should be allowed to criticize someone else for something they said.
c. Democrats should not criticize Republicans for things they say.
- Dan G
sundevil777 102
QuoteSee if you can spot the statement that doesn't fit:
a. Anyone should be allowed to say anything they want.
b. Anyone should be allowed to criticize someone else for something they said.
c. Democrats should not criticize Republicans for things they say.
I did not say (c)
See if you can realize that.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am
DanG 1
QuotePressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
So you're in favor of "soft censorship"?
- Dan G
rushmc 23
QuoteQuotePressure on conservatives to stop the vitriol is a way of enforcing a soft censorship.
So you're in favor of "soft censorship"?
The left is
I am not
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
What is "soft censorship" to you? If it is preventing someone from saying what they think by assigning negative labels like "racist", "communist", "vitriol", or "blood libel", then I suggest you've shown yourself to be in favor of it when it comes from the Right, but not so much when it comes from the Left.
- Dan G
- Dan G
rushmc 23
QuoteWhat is "soft censorship" to you? If it is preventing someone from saying what they think by assigning negative labels like "racist", "communist", "vitriol", or "blood libel", then I suggest you've shown yourself to be in favor of it when it comes from the Right, but not so much when it comes from the Left.
It seems that if one disagrees with a lefty (such as yourself) any term to describe is hate speach or worse
Labels are another matter all together
Whom do you see applying labels most often (on a national news type scale)?
Hint
look at what happened following the AZ shootings
Who was labeling whom then?
None are so blind as those who refuse to see
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
QuoteIt seems that if one disagrees with a lefty (such as yourself) any term to describe is hate speach or worse
a. I'm not a "lefty". Unless you mean I'm left handed, in which case you are correct.
b. I have never called anything you said "hate speech". I'm against hate crimes or hate speech being illegal, but if someone says something that is bullshit, I will call them out on it.
QuoteLabels are another matter all together
Whom do you see applying labels most often (on a national news type scale)?
I see it about equally from both sides.
QuoteNone are so blind as those who refuse to see
Indeed.
- Dan G
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteIt seems that if one disagrees with a lefty (such as yourself) any term to describe is hate speach or worse
a. I'm not a "lefty". Unless you mean I'm left handed, in which case you are correct.
b. I have never called anything you said "hate speech". I'm against hate crimes or hate speech being illegal, but if someone says something that is bullshit, I will call them out on it.I did not mean to imply that YOU did, I too will call them outQuoteLabels are another matter all together
Whom do you see applying labels most often (on a national news type scale)?
I see it about equally from both sides.I dont, at least not in the instance that brought the subject up at this timeQuoteNone are so blind as those who refuse to see
Indeed.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
>sources of vitriol . . .
Perfect example of what I was saying.
"Vitriol doesn't make people kill people! That's bullshit! Oh wait - maybe he was a liberal - vitriol DOES make people kill people!"
Do stuff like that often enough, and people just start assuming that everything conservatives say is a lie.
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