Belgian_Draft 0 #101 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Same with a lot of other unionized trades. i agree with you that unions are a good thing... In some ways they are. In some ways they aren't. Nice stawman attempt, though. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #102 January 19, 2011 QuoteThankfully education has not reached the point of rewarding the vast majority of people merely for participating regardless of achievement. apart from the rich of course... ('cus they're 'special' and can afford the best schools)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #103 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteIn that case he would have earned (Not "earnt". Your lack of education shows.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Short answer they are (effectively) the same It comes from British English in which the past participles of certain words can be spelled (spelt) with "-ed" or "-t". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This arises from the fact that "-ed" at the end of a word can be enunciated as "t" (It's just easier to say) burned or burnt (both spellings are allowed in English) learned or learnt (both spellings are allowed in English) spelled or spelt (both spellings are allowed in English) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://answers.yahoo.com/...0081011120516AAXTdJG duh! Dude, yahoo answers is not exactly an authoritative source of information. Take a look in a real dictionary, such as Merriam-Webster. At best you will find the word "burnt" is an archaic word not normally accepted as proper.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #104 January 19, 2011 strange you're telling me how to spell my own language - how's your 'american' coming along?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #105 January 19, 2011 Spell any way you wish. I prefer to use commonly accepted forms that show I am an educated person.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #106 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewelfare? you're talking about all the welfare paid out to the bankers. i agree they should pay their own way same as the rest of us... No - I was talking about personal welfare, like the kiond the government gives you for doing nothing to earn it. yeh, like the bankers... No, more like what you assume inheritance to be. Just because you think you are deserving, doesn't make it so.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #107 January 19, 2011 QuoteSo, for the sake of me catching up. . . Inheriting money is bad. Yes, he has a problem with inheritance. But I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem if I inherited my Mom's little house.. Dreamdancer, there will always be steel-gut hard working bottom feeders and lotto ticket//trust fund millionaires. But you can't hate the rich and mourn for the poor at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #108 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail. If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home. Wow. You're as far off base as he is. Well it was part of the academic concerns and business discussions 40 years ago and that attitude hasn't changed but feel free to actually bring a counter argument to the table. The school systems are set up to pass those who can achieve a minimum amount of education or, at least, convince their teacher to pass them anyway. If the system were sucha that everybody passed, the courses would have to be so easy that nobody would learn anything and that would be a worse situation than failing those who cannot make the grade. Thankfully education has not reached the point of rewarding the vast majority of people merely for participating regardless of achievement. Read up on "no child left behind" this is basically what they are doing until high school. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #109 January 19, 2011 So we now have three opinions. One says that the schools are set up to fail students, another says the schools are set up to pass those who meet certain standards and fail those that don't, and another that says schools are set up to pass everyone, at least until high school. Very interesting.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #110 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail. If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home. Wow. You're as far off base as he is. Well it was part of the academic concerns and business discussions 40 years ago and that attitude hasn't changed but feel free to actually bring a counter argument to the table. The school systems are set up to pass those who can achieve a minimum amount of education or, at least, convince their teacher to pass them anyway. If the system were sucha that everybody passed, the courses would have to be so easy that nobody would learn anything and that would be a worse situation than failing those who cannot make the grade. Thankfully education has not reached the point of rewarding the vast majority of people merely for participating regardless of achievement. Read up on "no child left behind" this is basically what they are doing until high school. It was happening before NCLB...the law just exacerbated the situation.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #111 January 19, 2011 >that's just the reality of their class. I don't think you know a single rich person, then, if you think that's reality. I think you have stereotyped them, using the popular media stereotypes presented in movies, TV etc. The evil cigar-smoking CEO, the scheming CFO. That's no more accurate than the stereotype of poor people as hard-drinking, drug-using loiterers who live on welfare. >remember educated people are a threat to them From what you have posted, it sounds like you are far more afraid of rich people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #112 January 19, 2011 QuoteQuote>i like educated people OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? that's just the reality of their class... (remember educated people are a threat to them) My friendly neighborhood Billionaire employs a bunch of people with PhDs and masters degrees in math and physics. His HOUSEKEEPER has an MS. His childrens' nannies have degrees. You are wrong.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #113 January 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >i like educated people OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? that's just the reality of their class... (remember educated people are a threat to them) My friendly neighborhood Billionaire employs a bunch of people with PhDs and masters degrees in math and physics. His HOUSEKEEPER has an MS. His childrens' nannies have degrees. You are wrong. A very good friend of mine went to college after high school and got his BS & MS in mechanical engineering. He then taught shop class at a local high school for a couple years before spending the next 20 as a long haul trucker. Imagine that....a trucker with a MSME! If "rich" people really do hate educated people, then why did they ever hire him to drive their trucks? Yep, I'll agree he is wrong.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #114 January 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote>i like educated people OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? that's just the reality of their class... (remember educated people are a threat to them) My friendly neighborhood Billionaire employs a bunch of people with PhDs and masters degrees in math and physics. His HOUSEKEEPER has an MS. His childrens' nannies have degrees. You are wrong. there are always exceptions. but in the main, as a class, the reality is educated people are a threat to their position...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #115 January 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo, for the sake of me catching up. . . Inheriting money is bad. Yes, he has a problem with inheritance. But I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem if I inherited my Mom's little house.. that's right i wouldn't have a problem. we're talking about the 'rich' here...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #116 January 20, 2011 QuoteFrom what you have posted, it sounds like you are far more afraid of rich people. they have the power - and they're getting more power and accelerating away from the rest of - that is going to be a problem that has to be resolved by society - hopefully peacefully....stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #117 January 20, 2011 Quote>i like educated people OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? how do you conclude they don't?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #118 January 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteChristianity "The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels: ...I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Parallel versions appear in Matthew 19:23-24, Mark 10:24-25, and Luke 18:24-25. The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle odd that no-one's commented on this post. i thought the us was an avowedly 'christian' country?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #119 January 20, 2011 ok, i'm off skydiving for the day - talk later stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #120 January 20, 2011 >they have the power - and they're getting more power and accelerating away from the >rest of - that is going to be a problem that has to be resolved by society - hopefully >peacefully.... Indeed! They can hire the poor and make them less poor. Problem solved. >>OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? >how do you conclude they don't? Because all the rich people I know prefer intelligent, well educated employees. These range from mere multi-millionaires to people worth two billion. Indeed, their desire for such employees is part of the reason they got to be billionaires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #121 January 20, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote >i like educated people OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? that's just the reality of their class... (remember educated people are a threat to them) My friendly neighborhood Billionaire employs a bunch of people with PhDs and masters degrees in math and physics. His HOUSEKEEPER has an MS. His childrens' nannies have degrees. You are wrong. there are always exceptions. but in the main, as a class, the reality is educated people are a threat to their position... Yeah, that's why the streets are filled to capacity with homeless PhD's. You do realize, don't you that the sentiment you are expressing has been around as long as one monkey envied another because he had one more banana? "Yeah, those fuckin' two-banana monkeys use us one-banana monkeys. They keep on getting more and more bananas while I'm stuck with my one. Bastards." Could be the monkey with the most bananas worked a little harder and reached higher in the tree. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #122 January 20, 2011 Quote >they have the power - and they're getting more power and accelerating away from the >rest of - that is going to be a problem that has to be resolved by society - hopefully >peacefully.... Indeed! They can hire the poor and make them less poor. Problem solved. >>OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees? >how do you conclude they don't? Because all the rich people I know prefer intelligent, well educated employees. These range from mere multi-millionaires to people worth two billion. Indeed, their desire for such employees is part of the reason they got to be billionaires. Exactly right. The profit to a company from the work done by a worker with a high school education can be expressed in the tens of thousands of dollars a year. In some cases an extremely talented worker can make his employer a couple hundred thousand or so. But an employee with a college education...BA, BS, etc....makes his employer hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and often well over a million. In some cases the amount goes into many miilions. There is a reason companies help pay for college classes taken by their employees. It makes them money! Most companies I deal with will pay a very significant portion of tuition for somebody working on their MBA. If companies treat their educated workers like that when they hate them, imagine what they would do if they liked them. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #123 January 20, 2011 Dreamdancer, are you a troll or just the stupidest son of a bitch that has ever typed?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #124 January 20, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewelfare? you're talking about all the welfare paid out to the bankers. i agree they should pay their own way same as the rest of us... No - I was talking about personal welfare, like the kiond the government gives you for doing nothing to earn it. yeh, like the bankers... No, more like what you assume inheritance to be. Just because you think you are deserving, doesn't make it so. You seem to respond to your own posts - why is it that you cannot seem to answer simple questions - Is it just because the comments differ from your own and you can't find a way around them?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #125 January 20, 2011 Quote>they have the power - and they're getting more power and accelerating away from the >rest of - that is going to be a problem that has to be resolved by society - hopefully >peacefully.... Indeed! They can hire the poor and make them less poor. Problem solved.. or leave them unemployed and poorer. you seem to be an adherent of the 'trickle down' from the rich theory which has been totally discredited. i believe wealth comes from the bottom up - always has done.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
