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The Class War Launched by America's Wealthiest Is Getting More Savage

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He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home.



Wow. You're as far off base as he is. :S
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>actually, they don't. who wants an educated housekeeper, driver, gardener,
>shop staff etc... competent yes, but not educated - that would be a waste of their
>money and a threat to their authority.

No, they want brilliant engineers, expert assemblers, clever accountants, well-spoken spokespeople and well-read business analysts.



yep, they want all these people to be competent - not educated, that's a threat to their class...


And just how do you think those people become competent? :S By whining about how the wealthy prey upon the poor?


you can be competent at your job without being educated - any sort of manual work, taxi driver, bricklayer, fruit picker, builder, gardener etc...
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Perhaps. But it's my own whine, versus someone else's. :)



you have my permission to stand in the corner and whine about 'bums' and 'poor' people as long as you want...

(that's just a reflection on you)
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Perhaps. But it's my own whine, versus someone else's. :)



you have my permission to stand in the corner and whine about 'bums' and 'poor' people as long as you want...

(that's just a reflection on you)


Are you ever going to answer my questions on taxes and welfare?
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>which one would the rich prefer to employ? - that's right the one with
>the lesser education...

Either one; whichever one does their job better. Not everyone has the sort of inferiority complex you present.



no, the correct answer is the one with the lesser education. i'm sorry we can't all be as superior as you...
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He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home.



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He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home.



Wow. You're as far off base as he is. :S


he's obviously well educated :)
(unlike some others)
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>He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are
>basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

Yes. Not everyone has the intelligence/work ethic/values/skills to pass in their chosen field of study. If we had a system where schools had to pass everyone, education would become lame indeed.

>If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so
>much about keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and
>productive in your work life but not at home.

?? And how, pray tell, do schools do that?

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>no, the correct answer is the one with the lesser education.

So how many housekeepers, gardeners, chauffeurs etc do you employ, then?

>i'm sorry we can't all be as superior as you...

?? I'm just not threatened by educated people.



i like educated people :)
(you seem to be confusing 'educated' with 'rich')
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Christianity

"The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels:

...I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Parallel versions appear in Matthew 19:23-24, Mark 10:24-25, and Luke 18:24-25.

The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished.



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welfare?



you're talking about all the welfare paid out to the bankers. i agree they should pay their own way same as the rest of us...



No - I was talking about personal welfare, like the kiond the government gives you for doing nothing to earn it.
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>actually, they don't. who wants an educated housekeeper, driver, gardener,
>shop staff etc... competent yes, but not educated - that would be a waste of their
>money and a threat to their authority.

No, they want brilliant engineers, expert assemblers, clever accountants, well-spoken spokespeople and well-read business analysts.



yep, they want all these people to be competent - not educated, that's a threat to their class...


And just how do you think those people become competent? :S By whining about how the wealthy prey upon the poor?


you can be competent at your job without being educated - any sort of manual work, taxi driver, bricklayer, fruit picker, builder, gardener etc...


And just how do you expect doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. to become competent without an education?
Also, education comes in many forms, not just in a classroom. Somebody had to educate thetaxi driver on how to drive a car and do simple math. Somebody had to educate the bricklayer, fruit picker, builder, gardner..... They didn't just magically wake up one morning with all their knowledge.
BTW, did you know that it takes 4 years of apprenticeship to get your journeymans card as a bricklayer? Same with a lot of other unionized trades.
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If I inherited my money



then you wouldn't have earnt it...



How do you know? Maybe he did as I did and worked side by side with his parents to build their business and assets. Or maybe he worked a low paying part time job so he could stay at home and take care of his parents when they were unable to care for themselves. In that case he would have earned (Not "earnt". Your lack of education shows.) every single penny they left him.
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He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home.



Wow. You're as far off base as he is. :S


Well it was part of the academic concerns and business discussions 40 years ago and that attitude hasn't changed but feel free to actually bring a counter argument to the table.

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>i like educated people

OK. How, then, do you conclude that rich people prefer uneducated employees?



that's just the reality of their class...

(remember educated people are a threat to them)
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welfare?



you're talking about all the welfare paid out to the bankers. i agree they should pay their own way same as the rest of us...



No - I was talking about personal welfare, like the kiond the government gives you for doing nothing to earn it.



yeh, like the bankers...
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In that case he would have earned (Not "earnt". Your lack of education shows.)




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Short answer they are (effectively) the same
It comes from British English in which the past participles of certain words can be spelled (spelt) with "-ed" or "-t".

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This arises from the fact that "-ed" at the end of a word can be enunciated as "t" (It's just easier to say)

burned or burnt (both spellings are allowed in English)
learned or learnt (both spellings are allowed in English)
spelled or spelt (both spellings are allowed in English)

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He's right and looking at the US school system should reveal it. They are basically set up to see a lot of people fail.

If you make it to the undergraduate level of education the game then isn't so muchabout keeping you stupid as it is ensuring you are innovative and productive in your work life but not at home.



Wow. You're as far off base as he is. :S


Well it was part of the academic concerns and business discussions 40 years ago and that attitude hasn't changed but feel free to actually bring a counter argument to the table.


The school systems are set up to pass those who can achieve a minimum amount of education or, at least, convince their teacher to pass them anyway. If the system were sucha that everybody passed, the courses would have to be so easy that nobody would learn anything and that would be a worse situation than failing those who cannot make the grade. Thankfully education has not reached the point of rewarding the vast majority of people merely for participating regardless of achievement.
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object we are trying to hit.

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