Liberal Death Threats Against Sarah Palin (YouTube)

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clicky

Just to show you the right doesn't have a monopoly on nutters, even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil and stupid. Fear me, for I am neither.

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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clicky

Just to show you the right doesn't have a monopoly on nutters, even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil and stupid. Fear me, for I am neither.

mh
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Pretty lame. The right does have intelligent arguments against the left, That was not one of them.

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clicky

Just to show you the right doesn't have a monopoly on nutters, even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil and stupid. Fear me, for I am neither.

mh
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Pretty lame. The right does have intelligent arguments against the left, That was not one of them.

True, but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, for example, and sending hate mail to the families of POWs and KIAs. Never underestimate how vile they can be.

They even did it to soldiers coming back from Iraq. Quade called BS on that til I showed it to him.

Conservative nutters tend to be individuals: loners as well as cowards. Witness Tim McVeigh, and this chickenshit douchebag who shot defenseless people in Arizona. He's no better than MAJ Hassan. I sincerely hope he gets what's coming to him.

However, that does not excuse the cowardly attacks against Palin and the Tea Party; still, I agree with a scumbag WAPO journalist who said that Sarah Palin blew it when it came to spinning this situation. She could have handled it with class and grace, but instead, she sniped back. It could have been handled better, IMO, but it was her decision to make.

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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[billvon 3,132]

> even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil
>and stupid.

>but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers
>returning from Vietnam . . .

So let's see:

Conservatives are evil and stupid, and liberals are lame cowards. And you think this is a valid way to discuss the issue.

No wonder people are painting targets on candidates and making death threats.

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clicky

Just to show you the right doesn't have a monopoly on nutters, even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil and stupid. Fear me, for I am neither.

mh
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Pretty lame. The right does have intelligent arguments against the left, That was not one of them.

True, but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, for example, and sending hate mail to the families of POWs and KIAs. Never underestimate how vile they can be.

They even did it to soldiers coming back from Iraq. Quade called BS on that til I showed it to him.

Conservative nutters tend to be individuals: loners as well as cowards. Witness Tim McVeigh, and this chickenshit douchebag who shot defenseless people in Arizona. He's no better than MAJ Hassan. I sincerely hope he gets what's coming to him.

However, that does not excuse the cowardly attacks against Palin and the Tea Party; still, I agree with a scumbag WAPO journalist who said that Sarah Palin blew it when it came to spinning this situation. She could have handled it with class and grace, but instead, she sniped back. It could have been handled better, IMO, but it was her decision to make.

mh
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Neither side has had, or will they ever have a monopoly on kooks.

For me, the difference is how some of the leaders of the right (elected or media) refer to the President and other Democratic leaders as Communist, socialist, Nazis, and so on and also proclaiming they hate America and are trying to destroy the country.

I may have thought that Bush was a fucktard, but I never thought he was out to ruin the country on purpose. The low level of civility shown to Obama by the right is appalling. To listen to many on the right, if anything tragic ever happened to Obama, the country would be better off for it.

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I may have thought that Bush was a fucktard, but I never thought he was out to ruin the country on purpose. The low level of civility shown to Obama by the right is appalling. To listen to many on the right, if anything tragic ever happened to Obama, the country would be better off for it.

so you, personally, say here you didn't think this way with Bush. But you didn't get that from others? even here on this site? let alone in the media or just out there?

Your note is just another example of "our kooks are rare and we aren't represented by them, but the other guys kooks are clearly the norm for the other party" -

c'mon - your statement is exactly the root of the problem

I don't see much difference in the commentary in the last 2 years vs the previous 8 except everyone switched sides of the field at halftime. Claiming that only one side of the field has anything to fix while the other side is pristine is just more of the same.

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> even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil
>and stupid.

>but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers
>returning from Vietnam . . .

So let's see:

Conservatives are evil and stupid, and liberals are lame cowards. And you think this is a valid way to discuss the issue.

No wonder people are painting targets on candidates and making death threats.

For decades, liberals characterized conservatives as evil and stupid. Some years ago, the right finally stopped being civil, took the gloves off, and fought back. Dirty, the way liberals always have.

If there has been polarization (and I don't think anyone in the "reasonable, thoughful center" of it all doesn't recognize it and worry), it's because liberals don't have a monopoly on outrageous acts of sheer stupidity anymore.

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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I may have thought that Bush was a fucktard, but I never thought he was out to ruin the country on purpose. The low level of civility shown to Obama by the right is appalling. To listen to many on the right, if anything tragic ever happened to Obama, the country would be better off for it.

so you, personally, say here you didn't think this way with Bush. But you didn't get that from others? even here on this site? let alone in the media or just out there?

Your note is just another example of "our kooks are rare and we aren't represented by them, but the other guys kooks are clearly the norm for the other party" -

c'mon - your statement is exactly the root of the problem

I don't see much difference in the commentary in the last 2 years vs the previous 8 except everyone switched sides of the field at halftime. Claiming that only one side of the field has anything to fix while the other side is pristine is just more of the same.

Having sitting members of Congress and the senate claim the POTUS is not a US citizen, not a Christian as claimed but is a secretly praticing Muslim, the religion of our enemies, That he wants to kill our elderly, That he "pals around with terrorist", and so on and so forth. Much worse from Limbaugh and Beck.

Many on the left said some pretty shitty things about Bush, but not by the Democratic Congress or Senate.

[billvon 3,132]

>For decades, liberals characterized conservatives as evil and stupid. Some years
> ago, the right finally stopped being civil, took the gloves off, and fought back.
> Dirty, the way liberals always have.

You're sort of a carciature of yourself. You condemn the stereotyping of conservatives two sentences before you stereotype liberals.

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>For decades, liberals characterized conservatives as evil and stupid. Some years
> ago, the right finally stopped being civil, took the gloves off, and fought back.
> Dirty, the way liberals always have.

You're sort of a caricature of yourself. You condemn the stereotyping of conservatives two sentences before you stereotype liberals.

True, yet the demonizing of one's opponents did not begin with conservatives / conservatism. Note that word - conservative. For a long time it meant what it stood for.

Now conservatives are fighting back and fighting dirty, which is a shame; and a cause, though nor the root cause, IMO, in the polarization of the body politic. It's a shame for conservatives to seemingly have descended to the liberal levels of things (id est, don't mud-wrestle with a pig, because it just gets you dirty and the pig likes it), but to sit there and be decent while the left characterizes them as evil and stupid has got to gall after a while.

Does inflammatory political rhetoric motivate some people to commit acts of violence? Sure it does, just ask the Weathermen. Some people cannot express themselves through intellect, and therefore resort to violence to make their point. Which is, IMO, how all bullies (and cowards) justify their acts.

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[billvon 3,132]

>True, yet the demonizing of one's opponents did not begin with
>conservatives / conservatism.

Nor did it start with liberals. The demonizing of opponents goes back as far as the Adams/Jefferson campaign, and both sides have continued ever since.

>Note that word - conservative. For a long time it meant what it stood for.

It still does, as does "liberal." The parties that purport to represent those philosophies have deviated quite far from those definitions, though.

>but to sit there and be decent while the left characterizes them as evil
>and stupid has got to gall after a while.

Just as the left has had to sit there and be decent while they were characterized as cowards, bullies, socialists, America-haters etc.

>Does inflammatory political rhetoric motivate some people to commit
>acts of violence? Sure it does

Agreed. Which is why both sides should calm the fuck down.

[rehmwa 2]

I've never seen the "he did it first" argument advance solutions

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>The demonizing of opponents goes back as far as the Adams/Jefferson campaign,

freakin' whigs and tories

"whigs and tories" is more fun to write than "Federalists and Democratic-Republicans"

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[Guest]

Valid points as always. However, never before in the history of US politics have things gotten so ugly.

For that, I blame the breakdown of traditional values, and for that I blame liberalism. It isn't conservatism that caused one-parent households, and the failure-factories that schools have become, thanks to the teachers' union, the NEA; nor the bane of political correctness gone wild.

From where I see it, all the liberal birds have come home to roost, yet somehow, conservatives are to blame.

However, before those who choose to make the leap of illogic and put words in my mouth have an opportunity to do so, I am NOT saying that I blame liberalism for the Arizona shooter. However, I emphatically lay the blame for the deteriorating political situation in the US at the feet of liberalism, in all its wretched stink.

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Pretty lame. The right does have intelligent arguments against the left, That was not one of them.

Actually what is lame is that you refuse to acknowledge that there is "hate and vitriol" on the Left. Oh and before you go ballistic on this statement. There is "hate and vitriol" on the Right as well.

Does anyone remember the scene in the movie Do the Right Thing where people from all sides are slamming each other before "Mister Senor Love Daddy" (Samuel L Jackson) intervenes with: "Yo, hold up, timeout, timeout!, y'all take a chill, you need to cool that shit out, and that's the double truth ... ruth"

For those who do not know this sequence you can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zigyHzrFrVI&feature=related

fast forward to the 7:40 mark and watch the sequence until the 9:25 mark. We don't need Obama sugar coating things with his politically correct speeches. We need Senor Love Daddy on the job.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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clicky

Just to show you the right doesn't have a monopoly on nutters, even though it's a liberal article of faith that conservatives are both evil and stupid. Fear me, for I am neither.

mh
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How do you know these threats where made by liberals?

[Andy9o8 3]

Now you have to admit, some of these are kind of creative:
"I wanna punch her in the face and then take her to Lens Crafters"
"Sarah Palin should be strapped to a rocket and shot into the sun."
"I'd never suggest having her killed. I want her pain to be self-inflicted."
"I am very non-violent, but somebody needs to shoot Sarah Palin's toes off."
"It would be cool if wolves had the ability to fly helicopters and shoot rifles when Sarah Palin goes cross-country skiing."

[billvon 3,132]

>However, never before in the history of US politics have things gotten so ugly.

McCarthyism was worse. We're not actually imprisoning people we disagree with.

>It isn't conservatism that caused one-parent households

And it isn't liberalism that drives gay kids to kill themselves (or worse, straight kids to kill gay kids.)

>and the failure-factories that schools have become

It isn't liberalism that tries to constantly cut educational funding.

>From where I see it, all the liberal birds have come home to roost, yet somehow,
>conservatives are to blame.

The worst excesses of both parties have come home to roost. Both are to blame for the excesses we see today.

The best friend that the extremists can have are voters that can see only partisan issues, that forgive their own side for what they condemn the other side for. As long as we have them, we'll have Sarah Palins and Michael Moores and Rush Limbaughs - and they will be worshipped as heroes.

>However, I emphatically lay the blame for the deteriorating political situation in
> the US at the feet of liberalism, in all its wretched stink.

And as long as both sides have that attitude, it will continue to get worse.

[Skyrad 0]

Unbelievable, you've got to wonder what is wrong with these people (Left or right)

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Andy9o8 3]

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However, I emphatically lay the blame for the deteriorating political situation in the US at the feet of liberalism, in all its wretched stink.

Just for that, today I am going to wear sandals with sox and eat quiche.

[Skyrad 0]

I think becoming French is taking things a bit to far!

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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I think becoming French is taking things a bit to far!

Well - you know how those libs like to go to the extremes.

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[deltron80 0]

***True, but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, for example, and sending hate mail to the families of POWs and KIAs. Never underestimate how vile they can be.

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***True, but then liberals are (collectively) lame cowards...spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, for example, and sending hate mail to the families of POWs and KIAs. Never underestimate how vile they can be.

It makes a nice anecdote, but no Vietnam Vets were actually spat on.. that's one of the many collective myths of the Vietnam War.

I doubt many hippies would actually have the nerve to spit on a battle hardened soldier so it makes sense.

I know you will adamantly claim that they were spat on, but that doesn't make it true.