webracer 0 #1 January 13, 2011 Indiana is trying to ruin small businesses, starting with skydiving. They are trying to pass a bill allowing them to hire/employ inspectors to make sure skydiving businesses comply with FARs (which are enforced already at the federal level) and BSRs (which are enforced internally by the USPA). If it passes here, it will be precedent for other states to follow. Ultimately they want to produce more bureaucratic positions (note: in a time of economic crisis for our country) and charge skydiving businesses for inspections. This will raise cost for skydivers, and hurt the businesses that provide a place for them to jump. Whether from Indiana or not, publish your discontent for this type of bill everywhere you can. Support the USPA (who is already aware and in on this fight). Read about the bill here: http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2011/IN/IN0387.1.htmlTroy I am now free to exercise my downward mobility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 January 13, 2011 US and state gov policy has been anti business for years This is just the next step soon it will be cheaper to jump across the pond count on it unless we run the anti businees libs out of power"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 January 13, 2011 FYI, there's currently a threat in General Skydiving about this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 January 13, 2011 QuoteUS and state gov policy has been anti business for years This is just the next step soon it will be cheaper to jump across the pond count on it unless we run the anti businees libs out of power You know, Marc, we all know you hate "libs". You really don't have to be such a moron about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 January 13, 2011 Quote soon it will be cheaper to jump across the pond Not so sure about that. Aviation in Europe is incredibly expensive. Maybe China will be the place to jump? But be prepared if you land out. You could end up to your neck in some toxic sludge. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 January 13, 2011 Quote FYI, there's currently a threat in General Skydiving about this. Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? Do you need someone to go in there with you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthonyfellows 0 #7 January 13, 2011 Quote Quote FYI, there's currently a threat in General Skydiving about this. Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? Do you need someone to go in there with you? LOLSerious relationships turn into work after a few weeks and I already got a fucking job :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ H.A.F. = Hard As Fuck ... Goddamn Amateurs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 January 13, 2011 Quote Quote FYI, there's currently a threat in General Skydiving about this. Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? Do you need someone to go in there with you? What an odd comment. I was trying to provide helpful info about a parallel discussion on the same topic. That's fairly commonly done in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 January 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote FYI, there's currently a threat in General Skydiving about this. Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? Do you need someone to go in there with you? What an odd comment. I was trying to provide helpful info about a parallel discussion on the same topic. That's fairly commonly done in here. Actual discussion - not really.I was just having some fun at your expense.Enjoy and learn to laugh at yourself.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 January 13, 2011 Oh. I said threaT. Well, that's what happens on your 3rd IPA. Dogfish 90 Minute. Got a bit of a kick to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 January 13, 2011 Quote Oh. I said threaT. Well, that's what happens on your 3rd IPA. Dogfish 90 Minute. Got a bit of a kick to it. Yeah - you said threat . . . Now - do i have to threaten you to have you give me one of those?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #12 January 13, 2011 QuoteUS and state gov policy has been anti business for years No. Government policy is pro big business, as in billions. If that wasn't the case, universal health care would have taken the form of not-for-profit government insurance instead of the requirement to buy insurance from for-profit companies. If that wasn't the case, the government wouldn't be in the business of buying or guaranteeing 2/3 of the mortgages written (with the loan originators and servicers collecting the profit and largely able to ignore whether the borrowers can repay the money) thus driving up the cost of housing for everyone. If that wasn't the case, the government wouldn't be making special exclusions in the bankruptcy code for private student loan debt which facilitates companies loaning students more than they can repay thus driving up the cost of education for everyone. If that wasn't the case, the government would be allowing huge car companies and banks to fail instead of diverting our tax dollars to them. Quotecount on it unless we run the anti businees libs out of power Government is all about (big) business and power for the politicians. "liberals" are as pro-business as "conservatives", with guys like Bill Clinton appointing guys like Goldman Sachs co-chairman Robert Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury . Skydiving is NOT big business so you can step on it without pissing people off and gain a little power regulating it. A blue collar salary used to be enough to own a home, have two new cars, maintain a stay-at-home wife, and even send your kids to college. Pro-business "liberals" and "conservatives" are responsible for changing that. This can't change until "liberals" and "conservatives" realize that both their friends and enemies are teaming up against them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
webracer 0 #13 January 13, 2011 What could happen here is what WILL happen with cigarette and alcohol taxes... Eventually by raising the prices year-after-year, people will stop smoking. This will result in 0 tax collection, creating a larger deficit. Government will fix that by raising taxes on alcohol even more, creating a similar result. If they succeed with this bill, and run the skydiving businesses out of Indiana... Local and state taxes collected decrease (yes (most) skydiving businesses pay taxes, as do their employees/contractors), local economies suffer (no travel for purposes of skydiving, no eating out because you are at the DZ for the weekend, no fuel sales for purposes of travel to the dropzone, etc...................) In typical government fashion, one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. Imagine if the government was actually successful as a for-profit business :)Troy I am now free to exercise my downward mobility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #14 January 13, 2011 QuoteOh. I said threaT. Well, that's what happens on your 3rd IPA. Dogfish 90 Minute. Got a bit of a kick to it. Serves you right for drinking IPA. If you can see through it, it ain't beer!HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 January 13, 2011 Quote Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? It doesn't make sense to talk about the same thing in two different places simultaneously... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 January 13, 2011 Quote Quote Why does a thread in another forum make you feel threatened? It doesn't make sense to talk about the same thing in two different places simultaneously... Unless you have to be in speakers corner to discuss the political rammifications as opposed to the business or local impact.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
