This must be less vitriolic and more subtle since there was no outrage

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“That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” an Oct. 23, 2010 Times-Tribune story quoted Kanjorski as complaining. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.”

Clearly this would not have any violence linked to it huh

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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“That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” an Oct. 23, 2010 Times-Tribune story quoted Kanjorski as complaining. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.”

Clearly this would not have any violence linked to it huh

It is only news if you can some how link it to Sarah Palin , Kind-a liek that old Kevin Bacon movie game people used to play!

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“That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” an Oct. 23, 2010 Times-Tribune story quoted Kanjorski as complaining. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.”

Quote by former Dem. Paul Kanjorski - the same one who just made a call for civility in politics...

http://citizensvoice.com/news/kanjorski-in-hot-water-after-controversial-remark-reappears-1.1089137

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I think it's yet another example of the general rule that those publically stumping for one thing are actively engaged in the opposite.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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“That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” an Oct. 23, 2010 Times-Tribune story quoted Kanjorski as complaining. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.”

Quote by former Dem. Paul Kanjorski - the same one who just made a call for civility in politics...

http://citizensvoice.com/news/kanjorski-in-hot-water-after-controversial-remark-reappears-1.1089137

Why is it so hard for some people to just admit that they did something wrong, promise not to do it again, and stick to it? This guys attempt to justify his own language just makes him look like an ass. The political rhetoric might encourage violence just in "fruitcakes", but there are fruitcakes out there; more damaging in a way is that such language makes it impossible to discuss actual policies and ideas. Once someone starts talking about "put him up against a wall and shoot him", or "second amendment solutions", how can you get back to discussing the relative pros and cons of policy? Maybe that's the real problem, where there are no substantial differences between political positions there really isn't much else to say except "I'm an angel, and my opponent is the devil incarnate".

Anyway, for some of these trash-talking politicians a good (very old fashioned) public mouth washing with soap might be a worthwhile idea.

Don

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I think it's yet another example of the general rule that those publically stumping for one thing are actively engaged in the opposite.

Your post could be seen as a subtle, yet insensitive, jab at amputees. I'm outraged.

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It just goes to show how utterly ridiculous the media is when they have an agenda. The media was completely irresponsible in their rush to place blame before any facts or evidence was known in this latest AZ shooting.

The media is all to happy to throw live bodies into a burning wreck if it gets them closer to realizing their agenda.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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It just goes to show how utterly ridiculous the media is when they have an agenda. The media was completely irresponsible in their rush to place blame before any facts or evidence was known in this latest AZ shooting.

The media is all to happy to throw live bodies into a burning wreck if it gets them closer to realizing their agenda.

But But the media only reports the news!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Niki1 2]

The shooting in AZ was terrible. The hateful (vitriolic, if that's the right word) speech comming from BOTH the left and right is awful. But to try and connect them directtly as cause and effect is asinine. In my opinion, it probably makes matters worse.

How about if we take all this over the top hateful speech that we wouldn't have been allowed to use in a school debate and call it unacceptable. And let the purveyors of such speech know that we won't accept what they say if they say it thiis way.
The nut jobs are an entirely seperate issue. These crazy assholes will start shooting at Rice Crispies after seeing a Coco Puffs comercial.

EVERYONE needs to condem the nut cases.

EVERYONE needs to recogize speech that is lacking of civility AND the ones who repeat it.

Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done.
Louis D Brandeis

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?

[rushmc 23]

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The shooting in AZ was terrible. The hateful (vitriolic, if that's the right word) speech comming from BOTH the left and right is awful. But to try and connect them directtly as cause and effect is asinine. In my opinion, it probably makes matters worse.

How about if we take all this over the top hateful speech that we wouldn't have been allowed to use in a school debate and call it unacceptable. And let the purveyors of such speech know that we won't accept what they say if they say it thiis way.
The nut jobs are an entirely seperate issue. These crazy assholes will start shooting at Rice Crispies after seeing a Coco Puffs comercial.

EVERYONE needs to condem the nut cases.

EVERYONE needs to recogize speech that is lacking of civility AND the ones who repeat it.

Give me specific quotes and examples of this so called hate speech.

Who is saying it and who is repeating it?

From both sides
I would like to get an idea of what you consider this hate speech and lack of civility really is

Thanks

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The shooting in AZ was terrible. The hateful (vitriolic, if that's the right word) speech comming from BOTH the left and right is awful. But to try and connect them directtly as cause and effect is asinine. In my opinion, it probably makes matters worse.

How about if we take all this over the top hateful speech that we wouldn't have been allowed to use in a school debate and call it unacceptable. And let the purveyors of such speech know that we won't accept what they say if they say it thiis way.
The nut jobs are an entirely seperate issue. These crazy assholes will start shooting at Rice Crispies after seeing a Coco Puffs comercial.

EVERYONE needs to condem the nut cases.

EVERYONE needs to recogize speech that is lacking of civility AND the ones who repeat it.

Give me specific quotes and examples of this so called hate speech.

Who is saying it and who is repeating it?

From both sides
I would like to get an idea of what you consider this hate speech and lack of civility really is

Thanks

Oh I don't know.... perhaps this qualifies

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010



So if you do not get your way its time to break out the guns???

Really????

From a potential Senator????

[rushmc 23]

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The shooting in AZ was terrible. The hateful (vitriolic, if that's the right word) speech comming from BOTH the left and right is awful. But to try and connect them directtly as cause and effect is asinine. In my opinion, it probably makes matters worse.

How about if we take all this over the top hateful speech that we wouldn't have been allowed to use in a school debate and call it unacceptable. And let the purveyors of such speech know that we won't accept what they say if they say it thiis way.
The nut jobs are an entirely seperate issue. These crazy assholes will start shooting at Rice Crispies after seeing a Coco Puffs comercial.

EVERYONE needs to condem the nut cases.

EVERYONE needs to recogize speech that is lacking of civility AND the ones who repeat it.

Give me specific quotes and examples of this so called hate speech.

Who is saying it and who is repeating it?

From both sides
I would like to get an idea of what you consider this hate speech and lack of civility really is

Thanks

Oh I don't know.... perhaps this qualifies

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010



So if you do not get your way its time to break out the guns???

Really????

From a potential Senator????

Hate speech?

ahhhh

ok

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Oh I don't know.... perhaps this qualifies

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010

So if you do not get your way its time to break out the guns???

Really????

“Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.” - Democrat Paul Kanjorski

"It really is time for Americans to take up pitchforks." - Democrat Claire McCaskill

"I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody’s going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he’s going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we’ll be there to watch. I think he’s Mr. Big, I think Yaphet Kotto. Are you watching, Rush?" -Chris Matthews

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From a potential Senator????

From a sitting President????

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Barack Obama
"punish our enemies" - Barack Obama
"I don't want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I'm angry!" - Barack Obama
"Punch back twice as hard" - Barack Obama
"I want to know who's ass to kick" - Barack Obama
"My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks" - Barack Obama
"I'm itching for a fight" - Barack Obama
GOP are 'hostage-takers' - Barack Obama
Boehner a 'bomb-thrower' - Barack Obama

Looks like the violence and vitriol is more on the left than the right.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Oh I don't know.... perhaps this qualifies

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." --Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection, interview with right-wing talk radio host Lars Larson in Portland, OR, January 2010

So if you do not get your way its time to break out the guns???

Really????

“Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.” - Democrat Paul Kanjorski

"It really is time for Americans to take up pitchforks." - Democrat Claire McCaskill

"I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody’s going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he’s going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we’ll be there to watch. I think he’s Mr. Big, I think Yaphet Kotto. Are you watching, Rush?" -Chris Matthews

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From a potential Senator????

From a sitting President????

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Barack Obama
"punish our enemies" - Barack Obama
"I don't want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I'm angry!" - Barack Obama
"Punch back twice as hard" - Barack Obama
"I want to know who's ass to kick" - Barack Obama
"My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks" - Barack Obama
"I'm itching for a fight" - Barack Obama
GOP are 'hostage-takers' - Barack Obama
Boehner a 'bomb-thrower' - Barack Obama

Looks like the violence and vitriol is more on the left than the right.

Ya know Mike

I am guess I have to admit I am surprised the lefties here keep after this

The double standard they are displaying if charcaterized would show up as a pair of dickheads on a forehead

Dont they get it, that for the most part niether side should have, for what is the most part metaphors, been put anywhere near any kind of level of incitment or hate lables

And I think they are smart enough to know this. So why are they doing it?

They cant win an honest debate

So hate, vitriol and lies are the playbook of the day

And the media wages its tail and follows along

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Niki1 2]

Well, the term I used was "hateful speech", not hate speech. Hate speech seems to have conotations of "code words" and inciting people to riot, burn and kill. I hope it's not THAT bad yet.

The things Sharon Angle said that Amazon pointed out were an example. But it would be better if it was pointed out by some one on her side of the political fence. There are other examples of the same sort from the other side but I can't bring any to mind right now.

When there's a fight on the playing field, there are only 2 or 3 people going at it, to start with. When the other team members grab their own teammate to pull him away, things settle down and they get back to the game. When some one grabs a member of the other team, that's when the "bench clearing brawls" break out.
If the moderate Muslims would be more vocal about the fundementalists hijacking their system of belief, that would go a long way toward abating the anti-Muslim retoric.

The "silent majority" is the 60 or 70 percent in the middle who are not doing enough to let the loudmouths know what is unacceptable.

Hateful speech is what you would NOT say to your moter if you had a disagreement. But I grew up in another time.

Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done.
Louis D Brandeis

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?

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Well, the term I used was "hateful speech", not hate speech. Hate speech seems to have conotations of "code words" and inciting people to riot, burn and kill. I hope it's not THAT bad yet.

The things Sharon Angle said that Amazon pointed out were an example. But it would be better if it was pointed out by some one on her side of the political fence. There are other examples of the same sort from the other side but I can't bring any to mind right now.

When there's a fight on the playing field, there are only 2 or 3 people going at it, to start with. When the other team members grab their own teammate to pull him away, things settle down and they get back to the game. When some one grabs a member of the other team, that's when the "bench clearing brawls" break out.
If the moderate Muslims would be more vocal about the fundementalists hijacking their system of belief, that would go a long way toward abating the anti-Muslim retoric.

The "silent majority" is the 60 or 70 percent in the middle who are not doing enough to let the loudmouths know what is unacceptable.

Hateful speech is what you would NOT say to your moter if you had a disagreement. But I grew up in another time.

I think you and I grew up in a similar time

And maybe what was said by some was unaceptable

but none that I have seen from either side I would call hate or inciting

which makes this potical bitch session all the more evil

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln