Palin aide claims that cross hairs were "surveyor symbols"

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UPDATE -

The Tea Party has sent out a mailing in response to the shooting. It discusses their thoughts on the shooting - and then asks for money.

Which just goes to show that no matter what the tragedy, someone out there will try to make money off it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110110/pl_dailycaller/teapartyexpresssendsoutfundraisingletterinreactiontoaftermathofarizonashooting

Dems beat them to THAT, too.

Mike
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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

So why don't we ban all movies, from hollywood, and otherwise, with violence in them as well as video games like Grand Theft Auto. and Call Of Duty?

Those have many more times the impact, as the player is immersed in the violence for hour upon hour.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

So why don't we ban all movies, from hollywood, and otherwise, with violence in them as well as video games like Grand Theft Auto. and Call Of Duty?
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Distinguishing fiction from reality doesn't seem to be your strong point.

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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

So why don't we ban all movies, from hollywood, and otherwise, with violence in them as well as video games like Grand Theft Auto. and Call Of Duty?
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Distinguishing fiction from reality doesn't seem to be your strong point.

Just as the constitution is not yours.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

Talk about incitement

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Having an electoral map with crosshairs on it doesn't tell its readers
>to shoot the opposition.

Agreed. It does, however, create an atmosphere in which such acts are more likely - and for that reason, such violent imagery is a bad idea.

there are actions that charge up the atmosphere. This isn't one of them. It's a graphic on a piece of reading material.

Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

Uh, the swastika is a symbol with tens of millions of deaths behind it. The burning cross has hundreds or thousands of lynchings behind it. A crosshair target is used far more generically.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/sarah-palin-rebecca-mansour-crosshairs-arizona_n_806375.html

Finally managed to find the actual graphic, rather than stories that talk about it, but conveniently don't allow the reader to form an opinion. (Talk about inciting)

"Let's take back the 20, together." Boy, is that a call to arms to what?

No doubt in my mind these are crosshairs, not surveyor symbols. But no one reading this graphic is being incited to shoot someone. That's about as pathetic as the twinkee defense.

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>>Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

>Talk about incitement

Exactly! Swastikas, images of burning crosses, and putting a bullseye on someone ARE examples of incitement. Glad you can see the light.

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>>Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

>Talk about incitement

Exactly! Swastikas, images of burning crosses, and putting a bullseye on someone ARE examples of incitement. Glad you can see the light.

Glad I see the light?

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You goint after google maps now cause those "target cross hairs" that you call them are what is on sites like that

But I know it is the agenda that is the most important to you and yours

Truth be damned

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>>Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

>Talk about incitement

Exactly! Swastikas, images of burning crosses, and putting a bullseye on someone ARE examples of incitement. Glad you can see the light.

It's all about the levels . . .
Swastikas and Burnig cross would get a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10

A cross hair on a website runs at about 0.5.

However Saying "punish our enemies" as Barack Obama to a bunch of energetic supporters in a rally, that one gets about a 5 probably closer to 6.

Bottom line - the crosshairs didn't encite anyone and if it made a difference in the incitement of violence it was so minute that it might as well be discarded alltogether anyway.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>>Swastikas and burning crosses are just symbols too.

>Talk about incitement

Exactly! Swastikas, images of burning crosses, and putting a bullseye on someone ARE examples of incitement. Glad you can see the light.

Well technically the "bullseye" was placed over a district. I haven't seen any pics of target symbols placed over politicians' faces, have you?

Also, crosshairs are not the same as bullseye (whether you think the Palin graphic had anything to do with this or not). Crosshairs imply a vertical and horizontal line that intersect in the center of a circle. Bullseye implies concentric circles with alternating bands of color.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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>Swastikas and Burnig cross would get a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10

Why? Why do images incite you and/or anger you?

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>Swastikas and Burnig cross would get a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10

Why? Why do images incite you and/or anger you?

The same reason they do you.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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>The same reason they do you.

In that case, I will assume that you are not offended by the symbols; you are offended by their associations.

If the KKK had not gone around hanging people, an image of a burning cross would not be as offensive.

If lunatics did not go around shooting politicians, an image of a bullseye on a congresswoman's district would not be as offensive.

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>The same reason they do you.

In that case, I will assume that you are not offended by the symbols; you are offended by their associations.

If the KKK had not gone around hanging people, an image of a burning cross would not be as offensive.

If lunatics did not go around shooting politicians, an image of a bullseye on a congresswoman's district would not be as offensive.

You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.







Wow.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>The same reason they do you.

In that case, I will assume that you are not offended by the symbols; you are offended by their associations.

If the KKK had not gone around hanging people, an image of a burning cross would not be as offensive.

If lunatics did not go around shooting politicians, an image of a bullseye on a congresswoman's district would not be as offensive.

Well, at least you're admitting that the bullseyes the DCCC used were inflammatory/offensive - finally.

Mike
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>The same reason they do you.

In that case, I will assume that you are not offended by the symbols; you are offended by their associations.

If the KKK had not gone around hanging people, an image of a burning cross would not be as offensive.

If lunatics did not go around shooting politicians, an image of a bullseye on a congresswoman's district would not be as offensive.

You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.







Wow.

It's all he's got for the 'blame the right' screed.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

He's sticking to the official position, no deviations will be considered. Remind anyone of Columbine?

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You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

He's sticking to the official position, no deviations will be considered. Remind anyone of Columbine?

Or any of the other incidents over the years where the first thing the newsies did was try to blame it on the right...

Mike
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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

Congratulations - you've proven yourself to be the ideologue that you claim Tea Partiers are.

Mike
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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

Congratulations - you've proven yourself to be the ideologue that you claim Tea Partiers are.

What do you think "don't retreat - reload" refers to, Mike? Inquiring minds want to know.

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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

Congratulations - you've proven yourself to be the ideologue that you claim Tea Partiers are.

What do you think "don't retreat - reload" refers to, Mike? Inquiring minds want to know.

As a metaphor?

Hell sir
even you should be smart enough to know what that means

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

Congratulations - you've proven yourself to be the ideologue that you claim Tea Partiers are.

What do you think "don't retreat - reload" refers to, Mike? Inquiring minds want to know.

Given that her facebook page (screengrab) stated:

"Today, Governor Palin targeted 20 leftists in the US House of Representatives TO BE VOTED OUT" <--emphasized that for y'all)

It would suggest to RATIONAL minds that she was talking about voting them out, and not about guns. Obviously the frothing at the mouth Left doesn't see it that way.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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>You are seriously considering that a CGI bullseye over an AREA on A MAP has
>the same significance as A burning Cross or a swastica.

And if you seriously think the phrase "don't retreat - reload" does not refer to guns, then people will take you about as seriously as they take any other Tea Party lunatic.

Again, referring to the link I provided, the phrases included 'It's time to take a stand' and 'Let's take back the 20, together.' If you can find an article that captured the phrasing you list, it would be good to see. I noted many articles only wrote, included no visuals, and of course Palin's camp took it all down from the site.