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We are about to be attacked by the left hiding behind the shield of Jared Loughner.

Although it's clear he was a deranged individual by the time he goes to trial he'll be a deranged right wing individual tea party member in good standing and be capable of quoting Beck, Palin, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly.

The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.
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<< Liberal here.

Nope. It is becoming pretty clear that this guy was just a loony.



I am glad you recognize this guy as a loony. Personally I don't think enough is known about him yet to say exactly what his motives were (as of yesterday, he was not talking). On his YouTube channel he did voice displeasure with the current US government and that was all the CBC needed up here in Canada to tell all their loyal lemmings that he is a Tea Bagger acting on commands from Sarah Palin all because of her website. But the CBC has never been known to be an ethical media source. The CBC has an agenda and they will do everything in their power to pursue this agenda. Of course the CBC is irrelevant in the USA ... but no doubt people will be looking for any way to associate this disturbed individual to their political opponents.

People should wait for the hard evidence to surface that he was actually associated with this group or that group before they assume that he was. After all, we should all know the saying "Don't assume anything otherwise you risk making an ASS out of U and ME".


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<< Liberal here.

Nope. It is becoming pretty clear that this guy was just a loony.



I am glad you recognize this guy as a loony. Personally I don't think enough is known about him yet to say exactly what his motives were (as of yesterday, he was not talking). On his YouTube channel he did voice displeasure with the current US government and that was all the CBC needed up here in Canada to tell all their loyal lemmings that he is a Tea Bagger acting on commands from Sarah Palin all because of her website. But the CBC has never been known to be an ethical media source. The CBC has an agenda and they will do everything in their power to pursue this agenda. Of course the CBC is irrelevant in the USA ... but no doubt people will be looking for any way to associate this disturbed individual to their political opponents.

People should wait for the hard evidence to surface that he was actually associated with this group or that group before they assume that he was. After all, we should all know the saying "Don't assume anything otherwise you risk making an ASS out of U and ME".



Sorry, I didn't get the part where CBC said he was a tea bagger. Can you provide the link?

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a. he was a loony. Lots of groups have loonies in them.
b. some people will say exactly that. Remember that just as that loony doesn't represent conservatism, neither do loudmouths represent all liberals
c. consider what the reaction from the more vocal members of the right wing would have been if he'd been either a Muslim or hispanic

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It's happening already.

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Durbin, the Democratic whip in the Senate, cited imagery of crosshairs on political opponents and Sarah Palin's combative rallying cry, "Don't retreat; reload."

"These sorts of things, I think, invite the kind of toxic rhetoric that can lead unstable people to believe this is an acceptable response," Durbin said Sunday on CNN's State of the Union.



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He [Cleaver] said he agreed with Franks that no one yet knows why Loughner went on his shooting spree on Saturday. But “it doesn’t matter however,” he argued. “This ought to be a wake-up call to not only members of Congress but to the people in this country that we are headed in the wrong direction.”



I don't think he was trying to make any statement at all. He's 22. If he was mid forties/early fifties with a history of political involvement I'd say maybe.
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We are about to be attacked by the left hiding behind the shield of Jared Loughner.

Although it's clear he was a deranged individual by the time he goes to trial he'll be a deranged right wing individual tea party member in good standing and be capable of quoting Beck, Palin, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly.

The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



You're missing the point. Whether or not Loughner (or any possible others who may be involved) were directly inspired by Palin or the rest, the fact remains that members of our government can and are subjected to violence. This recent event is a stark reminder of that fact.

So that being the case, it is clearly irresponsible for people on either side to talk even jokingly about using violence to achieve their aims. So how about we cool it with the "second amendment remedies" or the websites with cross-hairs targeting members of Congress?

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Fine. Just as long as there's no double-standard applied to the Moozlim who shot-up Ft. Hood. Deal?



What would the double standard be? We don't know enough about the man to say more than he was just some crazy. We know a far sight more about Hasan, and we knew it before he started live target practice.

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Hasan is an American-born Muslim of Palestinian descent. Internal Army reports indicate officers within the Army were aware of Hasan's tendencies toward radical Islam since 2005. Additionally, investigations before and after the shooting discovered e-mail communications between Hasan and Yemen-based cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who quickly declared Hasan a hero, as "fighting against the U.S. army is an Islamic duty". After communications between the two were forwarded to FBI terrorism task forces in 2008, they determined that Hasan was not a threat prior to the shooting and that his questions to al-Awlaki were consistent with medical research.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

Sorry for the Wiki...it was the best I could do on short notice.
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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?


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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.


More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?



That's right. Let's make sure we defend the one comment instead of condemning the both.>:(

Both comments are asinine.

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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?



That's right. Let's make sure we defend the one comment instead of condemning the both.

Both comments are asinine.



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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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***The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?



I have funny feeling we have seen the last of Sarah and the rights use of politics and gun analogies.

What do you think?

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***The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.


More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?



I have funny feeling we have seen the last of Sarah and the rights use of politics and gun analogies.

What do you think?

So the word target is next?

that will really help:S

I see much more vitriol and hate speach that does not use gun analogies.

But really, there is only one person to blame here, the shooter
Does not matter what anybody else says
If that is not agreed with then nobody is ever going to be responcible for their own actions ever again
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.

So you don't believe the left will use this for political traction? :D:D:D

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-pollster-obama-needs-a-terrorist-attack-to-reconnect-with-voters/

Dem Pollster: Obama Needs a Terrorist Attack to Reconnect With Voters
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***The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.


So you don't believe the left will use this for political traction? :D:D:D

A big difference in using something as apposed to wanting something to happen.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-pollster-obama-needs-a-terrorist-attack-to-reconnect-with-voters/

Dem Pollster: Obama Needs a Terrorist Attack to Reconnect With Voters

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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



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More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.



You have seen the video of Gifford saying she thought that Palin putting her district in cross hairs was disconcerting to her?

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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.

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The work of a right wing nutjob, perhaps?



Definition of perhaps:
Possibly, but not certainly.

Now we have more reason to believe he was just a nutjob, but that doesn't change the fact that our political discourse needs to be civilized.

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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



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More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.



You have seen the video of Gifford saying she thought that Palin putting her district in cross hairs was disconcerting to her?



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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The left was waiting for something like this to happen. Here is the next 'good crisis that can't be wasted'.



The left was waiting for this? What a pathetic statement.



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More or less so than doughboyshred's following post and statement?

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Update 1:43 EST: Giffords name and disrict were one of those "targeted" by Sarah Palin's political action committee in 2010. Giffords' district was targeted and put in crosshairs, literally, on the Palin PAC website.



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You have seen the video of Gifford saying she thought that Palin putting her district in cross hairs was disconcerting to her?



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Gifford spoke out about not being comfortable having her district put in cross hairs shortly after Sarah's PAC put the cross hairs on her district. I am still trying to find the video, It has been all over the news.

Still waiting your response if you think Sarah will continue with the gun analogies.

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