mnealtx 0 #101 January 5, 2011 Quote>The contortions trying to justify the double standard is like a parent telling their child "If anyone tries to touch you in a bad way, scream and run - unless it's a TSA agent, it's ok if *they* do that". Or like a parent telling a child "if you're lost and anyone tries to help you, scream and run - unless it's a police officer or someone from the family." Non-sequitur - someone helping a lost child isn't portrayed as a bad thing. QuoteOr like a parent telling a child "If anyone tries to touch you there, scream and run - unless it's Doctor Jenny, it's OK if she does that." Non-sequitur again - a child going in for a medical checkup isn't portrayed as a bad thing. QuoteYep, that's a horrible double standard. You'd never teach your children such disgusting double standards, right? Your analogies just keep getting worse. Funny you mention that, given the horrible examples above. QuoteThe odd thing is that I am certain you would not be as socially clueless as you suggest in these threads. I'm sure you would not call a black guy a nigger. That's correct, I wouldn't. I think words like nigger, cracker, kike, chink, and spic are inappropriate regardless of who is saying it. Quite obviously, *your* mileage varies.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #102 January 5, 2011 QuoteBecause this is a version that will end up in narrow-minded school districts and children will read. Then you will have to do a better job of electing school trustees and parents will have to parent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #103 January 5, 2011 QuoteThat's correct, I wouldn't. I think words like nigger, cracker, kike, chink, and spic are inappropriate regardless of who is saying it.You can only control your own behavior. How much are you going to invest in judging others' use of those words? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #104 January 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteBecause this is a version that will end up in narrow-minded school districts and children will read. Then you will have to do a better job of electing school trustees and parents will have to parent. Unfortunately, for some stupid ass reason, TEXAS is somehow the big player in what books get bought by school districts nation-wide. I'm not really sure why they hold sway in this area because they certainly don't have the largest population of school-aged children, but for some reason they have a lot of control over the market.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #105 January 5, 2011 QuoteUnfortunately, for some stupid ass reason, TEXAS is somehow the big player in what books get bought by school districts nation-wide. I'm not really sure why they hold sway in this area because they certainly don't have the largest population of school-aged children, but for some reason they have a lot of control over the market. Then you don't have much to worry about. Texas isn't known for being overly politically correct or a strong aversion to nigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #106 January 5, 2011 Quote Texas (something bad) Quote Texas (something bad) See -- here is where those of us who live here get to talk bad about Texas, but you guys better not mess with us Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #107 January 5, 2011 Quote Quote Texas (something bad) Quote Texas (something bad) See -- here is where those of us who live here get to talk bad about Texas, but you guys better not mess with us Wendy P. Hey now, I didn't say anything bad about TEXAS. I simply made the observation that they have somehow have sway over the school-book market that simply doesn't make any sense based on population.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #108 January 5, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Texas (something bad) Quote Texas (something bad) See -- here is where those of us who live here get to talk bad about Texas, but you guys better not mess with us Wendy P. Hey now, I didn't say anything bad about TEXAS. I simply made the observation that they have somehow have sway over the school-book market that simply doesn't make any sense based on population. Texas has the 2nd-highest school population nationwide, according to census data. I think you're just jealous that Cali doesn't have control of it. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #109 January 5, 2011 clicky Language is NSFW. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #110 January 6, 2011 Why is the word "nigger" offensive, but the word "negro" is not? Could he be called " Negro Jim" ?I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #111 January 6, 2011 Quote Quote Texas (something bad) Quote Texas (something bad) See -- here is where those of us who live here get to talk bad about Texas, but you guys better not mess with us Wendy P. Don't Tuck with Fexas!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #112 January 6, 2011 I just have to say that - I can't believe that I am here agreeing with Billvon and Quade on the basic issue here - Saying that - I have yet to hear a couple of jews walking up to each other and saying, "Hey, what's up Kike". Or hear any jewish musician making a record with the lyrics, "What, Kike, wat you like, kike?"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #113 January 6, 2011 You know, this really has me thinking. Huck rhymes with "fuck". And yet they didn't re-name Huck to, say, Heck. Hmm, why wouldn't they?? So this reminds me of that kid game where you switch first letters of words; e.g., "fuck you" becomes "yuck foo", etc. Stay with me here. Anyhow, so that would turn "Huck Finn" into "Fuck Hinn". Now that could be seen as a preemptive attack on that Christian huckster Benny Hinn, which means that Samuel Clemens was really an agent of the End of Days. Or, it could be a reference to "Hinn, Hinn, Fuck Hinn!", which of course (of course!) is a code for skydivers. So maybe the message here is that the next time Christian skydivers post here telling us how truly lost we are, we should shut up and listen to them. Things that make you go "Hmmm", indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #114 January 6, 2011 Personally I think removing it from a book is stupid and it will remove the effectiveness of the historic situation to a slight extent. But to those who are crying about black people calling each other 'nigga'. The use of the word among the black community (only a portion of) is a way of taking something that was used against them and making it theirs. The same thing happened with the word 'queer', the idea of 'taking words back' doesn't mean that the word can no longer be offensive and it probably would take many many decades before the original meaning is surpassed by the new way it's used. And the main difference is the way it's said and context. There's many black people that don't mind their white friends saying "whassup my nigga". It's not the same as saying something like "that dirty nigger stole my tv"- 'nigga' is the black 'dude'. And considering terms like 'nigger' are still commonly used in society in a racist degrading way, this is very much a present issue and not something to do with slavery etc. It's offensive to many people, and offensive in ways that you won't understand (makes me think of the south park episode addressing this)- but you won't understand unless you and your family have had a history of discrimination and oppression. And if you're white and tell me you find 'cracker' truly offensive, you're talking shit- there's no reason for you to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #115 January 6, 2011 and what about the Smurfs ? they originally didn't translate the book : Les Schtroumpfs Noirs (the black smurfs) for the anglo-american market. It was later changend into : The Purple Smurfs.... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
