A future Darwin Award candidate

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Man strips at Va. airport checkpoint in protest
Police say a man stripped to his underwear at a Virginia airport checkpoint in a protest against security procedures.

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When will these idiots understand they don't have to deal with security? All they have to do is take an alternative form of transportation. Flying in a commercial passenger aircraft is not a right, it is a contract between two private parties in which each agrees to abide by certain requirements, among those is passing through whatever security the airport and government feels is needed.
This moron knew when he bought his ticket that he would be required to pass security. It's not like it has been kept a secret.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
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Man strips at Va. airport checkpoint in protest
Police say a man stripped to his underwear at a Virginia airport checkpoint in a protest against security procedures.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40861300/ns/travel-news/from/toolbar

When will these idiots understand they don't have to deal with security? All they have to do is take an alternative form of transportation. Flying in a commercial passenger aircraft is not a right, it is a contract between two private parties in which each agrees to abide by certain requirements, among those is passing through whatever security the airport and government feels is needed.
This moron knew when he bought his ticket that he would be required to pass security. It's not like it has been kept a secret.

So in your mind - Ghandi is a Darwin Award candidate too -

After all he fasted knowing it was really bad for him.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Uh, Dude....big difference in what they protested.
Ghandi protested the violation of basic human rights. His situation was forced upon him.
The kid protested a situation that he had voluntarily placed himself into knowing full well what that situation would be.

In other words, Ghandi's hand was forced into the fire. The kid eagerly placed his own hand in the fire.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Uh, Dude....big difference in what they protested.
Ghandi protested the violation of basic human rights. His situation was forced upon him.
The kid protested a situation that he had voluntarily placed himself into knowing full well what that situation would be.

In other words, Ghandi's hand was forced into the fire. The kid eagerly placed his own hand in the fire.

So the TSA isn't treading on peoples rights?

I got news for you. Sometimes my job requires me to be 3,000 miles away and back again by the following week. Driving, even though right now I would be willing to do it, is not always an option.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Uh, Dude....big difference in what they protested.
Ghandi protested the violation of basic human rights. His situation was forced upon him.
The kid protested a situation that he had voluntarily placed himself into knowing full well what that situation would be.

In other words, Ghandi's hand was forced into the fire. The kid eagerly placed his own hand in the fire.

So the TSA isn't treading on peoples rights?

I got news for you. Sometimes my job requires me to be 3,000 miles away and back again by the following week. Driving, even though right now I would be willing to do it, is not always an option.

No, they aren't. As you stated, you can drive. You can choose not to go through the scanner or be frisked. It is not the problem nor the fault of TSA or the airlines that you schedule your meetings so as to need to fly.
Like I said, it is a contract bewteen two private parties. The airlines would be perfectly within their rights to require all passengers to wear pink overalls and little blue booties in order to get aboard their aircraft, the same as some restaurants require collared shirt, a tie, and a jacket for their male customers. Of course, they would not survive very long but that is beside the point.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Spoken like a guy that either likes to have his junk touched by a strange guy, or, has a job that doesn't require travel. Some jobs have long distances and short time lines. Don't think that for some people a car, train, or bus is an option.

Or are you just indifferent to anything that doesn't effect you?

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

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Spoken like a guy that either likes to have his junk touched by a strange guy, or, has a job that doesn't require travel. Some jobs have long distances and short time lines. Don't think that for some people a car, train, or bus is an option.

Or are you just indifferent to anything that doesn't effect you?

I fly at least once a week, sometimes more. Domestic and international.
I don't _like_ to "have my junk touched" by another guy, but I have no issue with the full body scanner so that has not been a problem. If for some reason I am required to be frisked then i will allow them to do so. I make that agreement when i buy my airline ticket.
It beats the hell out of crying like a little girl.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[skyrider 0]

How does a person standing up to their right to not be molested quilifuuy as a Darwin award candidate?

Yoru saying his expecting a right to privacy means he has a death wish?

Or are you as clueless to what Darwin awards are as you are to basic human rights?

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How does a person standing up to their right to not be molested quilifuuy as a Darwin award candidate?

Yoru saying his expecting a right to privacy means he has a death wish?

Or are you as clueless to what Darwin awards are as you are to basic human rights?

Oh, he most certainly has the right to not be molested. Molestation is against the law in every state.
But I will assume you are referring to the security screenings. Ok, I'll play your childish game and we can refer to it as molesting if that is what you want.
Once again, yes, he has the right to not be subjected to the process. All he has to do is take an alternative means of transport. Or he can hire a charter airplane from a local airport. Or he can BUY his own airplane and fly himself. But he most certainly does not have to subject himself to the security screenings by TSA.
He qualifies as a Darwin candidate because, like the idiots who do other stupoid shit, he voluntarily put himself in a situation where the outcome was already known and then protested something that he could have avoided completely. Don't want to get pissed on? Don't hide in the bottom of an outhouse. Pretty fucking simple.
But then, maybe it isn't. It does seem to be beyond your grasp.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Lindsey 0]

I have to get my "junk touched" almost every time I fly. And, even though it's annoying, I'm neither being molested nor having my rights violated. Looking forward to flying home from Denver tomorrow, though, where I can walk through the scanner instead. Can't wait til every airport has one of those. I get so tired of setting off the little alarm....

linz

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[skyrider 0]

As I thought, you are clueless to Darwin awards...and many things!

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He qualifies as a Darwin candidate because, like the idiots who do other stupoid shit, he voluntarily put himself in a situation where the outcome was already known and then protested something that he could have avoided completely. Don't want to get pissed on? Don't hide in the bottom of an outhouse. Pretty fucking simple.
But then, maybe it isn't. It does seem to be beyond your grasp.

So he exercised his right to peaceful protest... despite knowing the outcome and is therefore a Darwin award candidate? Really?!?

There's little to no chance of this individual dying in this action and thus although he might not be the most brilliant protester but he certainly isn't a Darwin Award Candidate...

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As I thought, you are clueless to Darwin awards...and many things!

Oh, I know what the Darwin Award is. That is why I qualified the title with FUTURE candidate.
Doubtless i am clueless about a few things, but I'm sure you surpass me on that.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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He qualifies as a Darwin candidate because, like the idiots who do other stupoid shit, he voluntarily put himself in a situation where the outcome was already known and then protested something that he could have avoided completely. Don't want to get pissed on? Don't hide in the bottom of an outhouse. Pretty fucking simple.
But then, maybe it isn't. It does seem to be beyond your grasp.

So he exercised his right to peaceful protest... despite knowing the outcome and is therefore a Darwin award candidate? Really?!?

There's little to no chance of this individual dying in this action and thus although he might not be the most brilliant protester but he certainly isn't a Darwin Award Candidate...

No, he is a FUTURE candidate because he is so freakin' stupid he doesn't know the 4th doesn't cover his ignorant butt in this case. He isn't being forced to undergo a search and, as i've already listed, he has plenty of other otions to complete his journey.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[billvon 3,111]

>Driving, even though right now I would be willing to do it, is not always an
>option.

Ah, yes. The Entitlement Generation. "I am entitled to cheap, affordable air travel set up the way I want it to be!"

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I don't think people feel it's an entitlement to have air travel their way. I think people just have an expectation that given the importance of air travel in this day in age the government wouldn't be so quick to install such draconian procedures in the name of security theater.

Peace, love and hoppiness

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There are no "draconian" procedures...lol. It's not like they stick a probe up your dick! They put their hands on you. Come on, folks!

If you think you need air travel "your way," then you're feeling entitled to something that is not a right. If you want to fly, then cope! Or don't take the airlines.

linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

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I would just rather have air travel not be restricted by unnecessary and overly intrusive acts serving no other purpose than to justify peoples government jobs.

I would hardly think that's an unreasonable stance.

Peace, love and hoppiness

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I would just rather have air travel not be restricted by unnecessary and overly intrusive acts serving no other purpose than to justify peoples government jobs.

I would hardly think that's an unreasonable stance.

Then charter a private plane. Problem solved.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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I would just rather have air travel not be restricted by unnecessary and overly intrusive acts serving no other purpose than to justify peoples government jobs.

I would hardly think that's an unreasonable stance.

I think there are other reasons than justifying jobs...like preventing acts of violence on airlines. Personally, I appreciate that. I'll take the pat down, even though it's a little intrusive...AT MOST. It's no more than that. I think people just like to feel a little righteous indignation from time-to-time.

linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

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Like I said, it is a contract bewteen two private parties. The airlines would be perfectly within their rights to require all passengers to wear pink overalls and little blue booties in order to get aboard their aircraft, the same as some restaurants require collared shirt, a tie, and a jacket for their male customers. Of course, they would not survive very long but that is beside the point.

It's the TSA's aircraft now is it?

we enter into an agreement with the airline. Not the TSA. Passing through the TSA security checkpoint is a speedbump in that agreement.

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But I will assume you are referring to the security screenings.

The problem I have is that you can't choose not to go through the pat down once you've entered the security area and been selected for the pat down. You may not choose to leave the security area without threat of an $11K civil suit.

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Rob

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Like I said, it is a contract bewteen two private parties. The airlines would be perfectly within their rights to require all passengers to wear pink overalls and little blue booties in order to get aboard their aircraft, the same as some restaurants require collared shirt, a tie, and a jacket for their male customers. Of course, they would not survive very long but that is beside the point.

It's the TSA's aircraft now is it?

we enter into an agreement with the airline. Not the TSA. Passing through the TSA security checkpoint is a speedbump in that agreement.

Where did I infer the TSA owned the aircraft??
The airlines have an agreement with the airports, of which the vast majority are government owned. Part of that agreement is to abide by security measures put in place by the government.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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But I will assume you are referring to the security screenings.

The problem I have is that you can't choose not to go through the pat down once you've entered the security area and been selected for the pat down. You may not choose to leave the security area without threat of an $11K civil suit.

But you already know of that possibility before entering the security area.
Don't want the risk of a frisk? Take advantage of one of the many other options available in this great country.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[billvon 3,111]

>I don't think people feel it's an entitlement to have air travel their way.

Cool, does that mean will hear less complaining from here on out?

>I think people just have an expectation that given the importance
>of air travel . . .

. . . that they are entitled to X Y and Z at a reasonable price.

Nope, sorry, they're not. They're entitled to what they can pay for. Want to avoid all the security theater? Get your own plane. They're fast, convenient and low hassle; you can drive to the airport, be on the plane 5 minutes later and be in the air in 10.

Want to fly to Vegas for $49? Then you're going to be treated like cattle. Is it worth it? Your decision.