turtlespeed 226 #1 January 2, 2011 I have recently been criticized for being out of town and unable to vote during the Bush elections - Just curious . . . What is my one vote worth? What would it have been worth if the population was reduced 1000 times?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #2 January 2, 2011 In my humble opinion, since quite a few brave men and women have died to protect your right to cast that vote, it is priceless.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 January 2, 2011 About fifty years ago the going rate was a shot of whiskey at the local pub. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #4 January 2, 2011 QuoteAbout fifty years ago the going rate was a shot of whiskey at the local pub. Nowaday's it's enough cash to buy a pack of Ding Dongs and a couple 40's. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #5 January 2, 2011 Or a promise of spreading the wealth.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #6 January 2, 2011 Some votes are worth more than others. Are you a lobbyist or super-delegate or inside power broker?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 January 2, 2011 QuoteWhat is my one vote worth? Don't you think it would have at least been worth having the right to bitch about the current Administration? If a person doesn't vote, then they shouldn't bitch.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 January 2, 2011 QuoteSome votes are worth more than others. Are you a lobbyist or super-delegate or inside power broker? their vote has the same value as any other. Their opinion may have more value - may influence other voters's choices, but the vote remains the same. The cost of not voting is the same - the loss of the right to bitch and moan about the results. Get setup for absentee voting and avoid that problem going forward (yeah, I get hit by it a couple times in the 90s). On a national election, the significance of the lost vote is likely nil. But you also vote for local elections at the same time, and I've seen a few mayoral elections come down to 10 or fewer votes (and this is for a town of 100k). So one vote there = 10% of a decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doughboyshred 0 #9 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteSome votes are worth more than others. Are you a lobbyist or super-delegate or inside power broker? their vote has the same value as any other. Their opinion may have more value - may influence other voters's choices, but the vote remains the same. The cost of not voting is the same - the loss of the right to bitch and moan about the results. Get setup for absentee voting and avoid that problem going forward (yeah, I get hit by it a couple times in the 90s). On a national election, the significance of the lost vote is likely nil. But you also vote for local elections at the same time, and I've seen a few mayoral elections come down to 10 or fewer votes (and this is for a town of 100k). So one vote there = 10% of a decision. ehhh, no. Superdelegates can overrule the vote of the people in the primaries. You're not voting for your candidate in the primaries. You're voting for delegates which can then vote however they want (in most cases). Their votes are most definitely worth more than yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat is my one vote worth? Don't you think it would have at least been worth having the right to bitch about the current Administration? If a person doesn't vote, then they shouldn't bitch. This is different from people whining how their vote didn't count due to living in a red area and voting blue (or vice versa), how?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteSome votes are worth more than others. Are you a lobbyist or super-delegate or inside power broker? their vote has the same value as any other. Their opinion may have more value - may influence other voters's choices, but the vote remains the same. The cost of not voting is the same - the loss of the right to bitch and moan about the results. Get setup for absentee voting and avoid that problem going forward (yeah, I get hit by it a couple times in the 90s). On a national election, the significance of the lost vote is likely nil. But you also vote for local elections at the same time, and I've seen a few mayoral elections come down to 10 or fewer votes (and this is for a town of 100k). So one vote there = 10% of a decision. ehhh, no. Superdelegates can overrule the vote of the people in the primaries. You're not voting for your candidate in the primaries. You're voting for delegates which can then vote however they want (in most cases). Their votes are most definitely worth more than yours. I was under the impression that the superdelegates had to vote their constituency - is that not the case?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat is my one vote worth? Don't you think it would have at least been worth having the right to bitch about the current Administration? If a person doesn't vote, then they shouldn't bitch. This is different from people whining how their vote didn't count due to living in a red area and voting blue (or vice versa), how? When a person is surrounded by people they don't necessarily agree with, that's not necessarily their fault. When a person is either apathetic or chooses not to participate, that's something altogether different. Actually, people on your side of the aisle should be more pissed at him than I.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doughboyshred 0 #13 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSome votes are worth more than others. Are you a lobbyist or super-delegate or inside power broker? their vote has the same value as any other. Their opinion may have more value - may influence other voters's choices, but the vote remains the same. The cost of not voting is the same - the loss of the right to bitch and moan about the results. Get setup for absentee voting and avoid that problem going forward (yeah, I get hit by it a couple times in the 90s). On a national election, the significance of the lost vote is likely nil. But you also vote for local elections at the same time, and I've seen a few mayoral elections come down to 10 or fewer votes (and this is for a town of 100k). So one vote there = 10% of a decision. ehhh, no. Superdelegates can overrule the vote of the people in the primaries. You're not voting for your candidate in the primaries. You're voting for delegates which can then vote however they want (in most cases). Their votes are most definitely worth more than yours. I was under the impression that the superdelegates had to vote their constituency - is that not the case? A few states have laws that dictate that delegates must vote how their constituency voted, but for the most part delegates can vote differently if they choose to. Superdelegates can vote however they so desire. Superdelegates are more a function of the DNC. On the republican side, there was actually a powerful movement trying to get delegates to switch their support to Ron Paul at the convention. Of course it failed. Still though, your primary vote is generally actually a vote to send a delegate that has pledged to vote the way you wish to the convention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 January 2, 2011 superdelegates don't elect anyone. They only vote in a nomination process. And how long has it been since they were the difference in the Democratic nomination process? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #15 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteI have recently been criticized for being out of town and unable to vote during the Bush elections - Just curious . . . What is my one vote worth? What would it have been worth if the population was reduced 1000 times? If you were voting for Whitman in the California Govenor's race, it would have been worth 47.00 dollars. This is the amount she spent of her own money. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2010/11/04/whitmans-campaign-cost-her-46-per-vote/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #16 January 2, 2011 What's it worth? Considering that Al Gore received 32,000 NEGATIVE votes (courtesy of sloppy voter fraud). I'd say not much. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7926958774822130737# http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 January 2, 2011 It could be worthless. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_%28United_States%29 QuoteThe election for President and Vice President is not a direct election by United States citizens. Citizens vote for electors, representing a state, who are the authorized constitutional participants in a presidential election. In early U.S. history, some state laws delegated the choice of electors to the state legislature. Electors are free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, but in practice pledge to vote for specific candidates and voters cast ballots for favored presidential and vice presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors.[2][3] . . . 2. Electors are not required by federal law to honor a pledge; however, in the overwhelming majority of cases they do vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged. Many states have laws designed to ensure that electors vote for pledged candidates, though the constitutionality of these laws has never been positively established. See The Green Papers http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G04/EC-Appointed.phtml 3. This process has been normalized to the point that the names of the electors appear on the ballot only in a handful of states. See The Green Papers http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G04/EC-Appointed.phtml My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doughboyshred 0 #18 January 2, 2011 Quotesuperdelegates don't elect anyone. They only vote in a nomination process. And how long has it been since they were the difference in the Democratic nomination process? That's like saying that nobody in the primary elects anyone. Superdelegates came close to nominating Hillary over Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 January 2, 2011 Quote Quote What is my one vote worth? Don't you think it would have at least been worth having the right to bitch about the current Administration? If a person doesn't vote, then they shouldn't bitch. That is extremely ironic. I should forward this to Phreezone.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #20 January 2, 2011 QuoteQuotesuperdelegates don't elect anyone. They only vote in a nomination process. And how long has it been since they were the difference in the Democratic nomination process? That's like saying that nobody in the primary elects anyone. Superdelegates came close to nominating Hillary over Obama. How close is a New York mile? And yes, no one in the primary elects anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
