skyrider 0 #1 December 30, 2010 Australia says NO - Second Time she has done this! She's done it again.. She sure isn't backing down on her hard line stance and one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen.. A breath of fresh air to see someone lead. I wish some leaders would step up in Canada & USA . Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken. It took a lot of courage for this woman to speak, what she had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least she was willing to take a stand on her and Australia 's beliefs. The whole world needs a leader like this! Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law, were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.. Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.' 'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!' 'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA , We will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 December 30, 2010 as one might have guessed: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/australia.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #3 December 30, 2010 Quoteas one might have guessed: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/australia.asp Mixture? So what, I searched it, and it came up on several websights and news site, the original in august , 2010! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #4 December 30, 2010 >as one might have guessed: >http://www.snopes.com/...oapbox/australia.asp D'oh! But the Muslim-haters _felt_ it to be true, so that has to count for something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #5 December 30, 2010 Quote>as one might have guessed: >http://www.snopes.com/...oapbox/australia.asp D'oh! But the Muslim-haters _felt_ it to be true, so that has to count for something. I knew I get the libs out of the woodworks, here is one news sight, that I am sure you'll love that posted it back aug 24th! http://us-aaa.com/2010/08/australia-says-no-to-muslims/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 December 30, 2010 yeah, and it was posted on Freerepublic on Tuesday (likely where you found it). but it's still horseshit. You may want it to be true, but it's not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #7 December 30, 2010 Quoteyeah, and it was posted on Freerepublic on Tuesday (likely where you found it). but it's still horseshit. You may want it to be true, but it's not. Prove it...even snoopes said mixed...it may simply en a reprint of the news artical back in august! Your "opinion", doesn;t mean shit! Your calling Bullshit, prove it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #8 December 30, 2010 >Your "opinion", doesn;t mean shit! Neither does your (provably erroneous) post - even if you really, really want it to be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #9 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteyeah, and it was posted on Freerepublic on Tuesday (likely where you found it). but it's still horseshit. You may want it to be true, but it's not. Prove it...even snoopes said mixed...it may simply en a reprint of the news artical back in august! Your "opinion", doesn;t mean shit! Your calling Bullshit, prove it! http://www.snopes.com/rumors/thisisamerica.asp You can find almost the exact same words from another one here. It just keeps getting repackaged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 December 30, 2010 Quote Your calling Bullshit, prove it! I said horseshit, not bullshit. And it's spelled "you're." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #11 December 30, 2010 Quote Your calling Bullshit, prove it! I read the same thing a few years back, but then it was Kevin Rudd who said it....before that, it was John Howard. Lame“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #12 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteyeah, and it was posted on Freerepublic on Tuesday (likely where you found it). but it's still horseshit. You may want it to be true, but it's not. Prove it...even snoopes said mixed...it may simply en a reprint of the news artical back in august! No, you prove it. Find that speech attributed to that person on any reputable ( as in non-partisan-bullshit-blogspot) news website. QuoteYour "opinion", doesn;t mean shit! No, your fake, buzzword-packed xenophobic article doesn't mean shit. At least not to any but the terminally gullible.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #13 December 31, 2010 Versions of that rant date back to 2001. http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/beamerican.html"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #14 December 31, 2010 Yet another of your implied "I am not a bigot but..." threads.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #15 December 31, 2010 Quote...one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen.. You may also want to do some research into exactly what happened to Australia's native countrymen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmarine253 0 #16 December 31, 2010 Quote"Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA , We will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths. " If we start to circulate this amongst the United States, that will be the day when this country isn't free and I will look for another free country to live in. I understand that they don't want people living under Sharia Law, however, do they honestly have a widespread problem with people actually practicing Sharia Law in Australia or is it that they just don't want Muslims of any kind in Australia anymore? Good for the lady in taking a strong position against terrorism, but my problem is that not all muslims are terrorists and not are terrorists are muslim. Incidents in the United States other than 9/11 have certainly shown that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 December 31, 2010 "Sharia law" is as much a threat to Australia as flag-burning is a threat to the US. Which is to say: not at all. It's just another hot button, pushed by assholes who know there's a ready supply of morons who will believe it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 December 31, 2010 I kinda like the idea of "if you want to live in my house, you live by my rules". Sounds fair to me...regardless of who said it...or when. You guys standing on Snopes...you did notice that Snopes' explanation said... "The individual statements attributed to Australian government officials included in the e-mail reproduced at the head of this page are thus essentially accurate, but the selectively-quoted excerpts of controversial material from different news stories create the misleading overall impression that Australia enacted a formal policy to force some Muslim groups out of the country. The statements quoted were part of the public debate over an issue that flared briefly in the immediate aftermath of the London Tube bombings, then quietly subsided."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #19 December 31, 2010 Quote...not all muslims are terrorists and not are terrorists are muslim. Incidents in the United States other than 9/11 have certainly shown that. True enough. However, do you withhold targeting muslim terrorist groups because you can't identify ALL terrorist groups? Is this PC at work? We don't want to appear as though we are discriminating against muslim terrorists so we can't say anything until we can say something about ALL terrorist groups? You want a more generalized stance? How about, "I don't care who you are, if you don't want to live by my rules in my house, pack your shit and go."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #20 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote ...one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen.. You may also want to do some research into exactly what happened to Australia's native countrymen. They got taken over by immigrants. Kinda like nearly every current country on earth at one time or other.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 December 31, 2010 I'm not so interested in the OP but I find the message behind it to be in some part true.I spent the day with a couple of good Australian friends who are over for a holiday and we discussed the changing face of Australia. To try and keep Australia white, Christian and English is like King Canute ordering the tide to turn. Australia has woken up to the fact the the USA will no longer be a super power and in the near future China will be the number one super power. Many Australians speak Japanese as a second language and even a walk around any Australian city shows that in a few years most of Australia will no longer be white. Its an interesting time for Australia but the days of it being White, English speaking and Christian are numbered.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 December 31, 2010 Can you define what you mean by 'Free'. I hear this relic term of the cold war bandied about usually by people who haven't been outside of the USA (unless as part of a military deployment) so how about defining it? Just so the rest of us oppressed peoples outside of the Land of the Free (Where you have to pay for everything) know what we're missing out on. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #23 December 31, 2010 QuoteTo try and keep Australia white, Christian and English is like King Canute ordering the tide to turn. Australia has woken up to the fact the the USA will no longer be a super power and in the near future China will be the number one super power. Many Australians speak Japanese as a second language and even a walk around any Australian city shows that in a few years most of Australia will no longer be white. Its an interesting time for Australia but the days of it being White, English speaking and Christian are numbered. By way of comparison, the US is much different than Australia. To try and keep the US white, Christian and English is like King Canute ordering the tide to turn. The US has woken up to the fact that pretty soon the Chinese will have cornered the market on dilithum crystals (the pure kind, required for warp drive) Many Americans speak Spanish as a second language; and even a walk around any American city shows that in a few years most of the US will no longer be white. That's right, it's reverting back to the partial descendants of the brown people from whom the white people stole it from in the first place. Its an interesting time for the US, but the days of it being White, English speaking and Christian are numbered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #24 December 31, 2010 >I kinda like the idea of "if you want to live in my house, you live by my >rules". Sounds fair to me...regardless of who said it...or when. Agreed. But if you just want to live your life in a free country, then the only requirement is that you don't break any laws. I think religious types should be able to live however they want, provided they don't harm anyone else. Want to walk around naked because that's your religion? OK by me. Want to wear a head to toe covering with a little slit for eyes? Fine. Want to walk on stilts everywhere to be closer to God? Also fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #25 December 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote ......... They got taken over by immigrants. Kinda like nearly every current country on earth at one time or other. Now there's a one-page world history textbook! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
