falxori 0 #26 December 28, 2010 QuoteGot Footage? what? my word is not enough? here you go... a lovely bunch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xA1DbBAcOQ "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #27 December 28, 2010 QuoteLOL He asked her if she supports the Murder of ALL Jews. And the spoken idea that it would be easier to have them gather in Israel than to hunt them down globally and kill them one by one... She said Yes. Hm.. So some fat attention seeking idiotic neo-nazi American girl hates Jews. Hardly generalizable. Just because this idiot child claims to support Hamas doesn't mean that she has anything to do with them, plus as she didn't attack the racist muppet on the stage but engaged him in dialogue it wouldn't support your theory anyway.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #28 December 28, 2010 No, but then with the debt this country is in I don't think it should be providing aid to anyone.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #29 December 28, 2010 Quote Quote Got Footage? what? my word is not enough? here you go... a lovely bunch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xA1DbBAcOQ Eh, its like BASE... If there is no footage, it never happen. Wow... that's disheartening. I'm glad Israel finally attacked Iran with the computer virus... I hope the Great Satan (USA) helped! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #30 December 28, 2010 QuoteSo some fat attention seeking idiotic neo-nazi American girl hates Jews. Hardly generalizable. Just because this idiot child claims to support Hamas doesn't mean that she has anything to do with them, plus as she didn't attack the racist muppet on the stage but engaged him in dialogue it wouldn't support your theory anyway. There is no need to call her fat... I think we can all see she hasn't been paying attention to Michelle, and has had a few too many Oreo's. The MSA... the group she is in... isn't the girl scouts. And Twelvers... Like those in Iran, want not only to destroy little Satan (Israel) but the Great Satan as well... the USA. If you think that video is insignificant... you need to do some homework. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #31 December 28, 2010 QuoteAfter the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Benjamin Netanyahu claimed that he never could have imagined where the cycle of rabbinical incitement, combined with a sense of political endorsement and rabble-rousing, would lead. It would seem, however, that Netanyahu took from this a diametrically opposite lesson. The inciting rabbis continue to receive tens of thousands of shekels a month from the Israeli government. The prime minister himself makes inflammatory remarks against "the foreigners." And the sense of support from the politicians is reinforced by the introduction of a series of racist bills whose apex is the "discrimination committee law," which threatens to turn a rabbinical edict into a state law that will promote "Jews-only" areas. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-dictatorship-of-the-peas-1.333470stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #32 December 28, 2010 I have a feeling I know who you speak ofOn the other note. The videos I am with Ori. People constantly try to make the Extremes of Islam represent all of Islam. Just because its shown on TV or Videos doesn’t make it so. We have crazy fucks everywhere. EVERY religion has parts that we now consider backwards, and barbaric, and every religion has followers who seem to get hate and anger out of the same words many find peace, justice, and love in. Bottom line we have some fucked up people everywhere. As for Aid for Israel. First I am not for my tax money being spent on anyone other then the United States. At the same time we do support a lot of fucked up people, at least Israel has used the money to help them make a great country for her citizens. The only time I feel we need to single Israel out to cut of funds is when they break international laws, but that’s some thing I wish we did with any country that breaks international laws, or violates human rights. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #33 December 28, 2010 QuoteIn its early days, when Israel's character was taking shape, racism determined that the white race was superior. When the people who would eventually become "Mizrahim" arrived and were brought here from North Africa, it wasn't suggested or made possible for them to take part in the government, the land, the systems of power and the media. Very quickly they became citizens, but second-class citizens subject to humiliation and inferior conditions. They were excluded from public life and official cultural life, living with the knowledge and experience of inferiority. And separation: They were put in separate housing projects and separate neighborhoods. People who grow up with this experience of inferiority, when racism is directed at them, internalize that racism. When a landlord, the master, determines that white is good and black is inferior, you internalize that standard and hate yourself because you are not white. The standard of white superiority and the racism that comes with it become part of you, even when you are its victim. And then you project your racism onward, to anyone who is darker and more inferior than you. Add to that the existential distress and the inflaming of baser instincts by types like extreme right-wing activist Itamar Ben-Gvir, who don't miss an opportunity to gather new believers, and you get the recent racist demonstrations. After all, this is always how it works: The racist, extreme right wing gets in and fills the vacuum left by the negligent social left. But make no mistake - the hatred and racism were always here; now they are emerging more loudly. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/make-no-mistake-israelis-have-always-been-racist-1.333471stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 December 28, 2010 QuoteLOL He asked her if she supports the Murder of ALL Jews. And the spoken idea that it would be easier to have them gather in Israel than to hunt them down globally and kill them one by one... She said Yes. Hm.. He interviewed Helen Thomas?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #35 December 29, 2010 QuoteAfter all, this is always how it works: The racist, extreme right wing gets in and fills the vacuum left by the negligent social left. But make no mistake - the hatred and racism were always here; now they are emerging more loudly. The fact that you would quote any written piece that closes with that paragraph tells us more about you than anything you would type yourself. Thanks for proving once again that I really should just skip your posts entirely.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #36 December 29, 2010 israel is becoming more racist day by day - surely you've noticed? (do you remember sabra and shatila and of course rabin)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #37 December 30, 2010 QuoteAn Israeli group of prominent rabbis' wives has urged Jewish girls not to date or work with Arabs, underscoring the rising power of the religious Right and fuelling fears of growing racism in the country. A letter, signed by 27 wives, called on Jewish girls not to go out with Arabs, work with them or perform national service in places where Arabs are employed. It states: "There are quite a few Arab workers who give themselves Hebrew names. Yussef turns into Yossi, Samir turns into Sami, and Abed turns into Ami. They ask to be close to you, try to find favour with you, and give you all the attention in world. They know how to act with courtesy, as if they really care for you, but their behaviour is only temporary. The moment you are in their hands, in their village, under their control, everything changes. "Your life will never go back to the way it was, and the attention you so desired will turn into curses, beatings, and humiliations." Rabbi Gilad Kariv, the head of Israel's Reform branch of Judaism, condemned the letter. "Israeli society is falling into a deep, dark pit of racism and xenophobia," he warned. Among the women who signed the letter were the wives and daughters of senior rabbis. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8229831/Rabbis-wives-call-on-Jews-not-to-date-Arabs.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #38 December 30, 2010 Quote The MSA... the group she is in... isn't the girl scouts. No its a Student association which is a term for a group of locally academically based associations not all of which are connected. So which one exactly re you referring to? They are a microcosm of the community of which the are comprised so will have a broad range of individuals with sometimes opposing views as members. Some of these groups carry out interfaith projects with other religions including Jewish groups. David Horrowitz placed a advert in a paper that later derided his claims about the MSA.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #39 December 30, 2010 Quote Should the US provide monetary aid to this country? Yes, No , Why? Blue Skies, DJ Why not if the US provided monetry aid to the IRA to win their freedom. (fail) Then I think Israel certainly deserves monetry aid to help keep their freedom Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #40 December 30, 2010 Except the USA did not provide money to the IRA, American individuals gave money to help continue a terrorist campaign, not the same thing at all.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #41 January 12, 2011 QuoteHe interviewed Helen Thomas? That is wicked funny of you to post... Considering... were those “Jews” who were meeting with Ahmadinejad... not American Jews? So they are enjoying the Freedoms that America offers... yet calling for the destruction of Israel? Quite hypocritical! Maybe they need to leave our wonderful and free nation... and “go back to where they came from”, as Helen so eloquently stated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #42 January 13, 2011 Quote Should the US provide monetary aid to this country? Yes, No , Why? Blue Skies, DJ Provide monetary aid being a euphemism for complete military and financial support? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 January 13, 2011 QuoteProvide monetary aid being a euphemism for complete military and financial support? US aid to Israel: 3 billion Israel budget: 61 billion Israel defense budget: 13.4 billion Looks like wherever you got your "info" from is *slightly* mistaken.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #44 January 13, 2011 I see lots of talk of racism in this thread. It might help if Americans understood that much of the world is quite happy with it's racist stances and doesn't seek diversity like the US professes to. I've spent some time in the middle east. They like hating each other for reasons of racism, religion, tribe, geography, etc. Denegrating a Jew for hating Arabs when that Jew grew up surrounded by Arabs who want him/her dead is really pretty silly in my view.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 January 13, 2011 QuoteI see lots of talk of racism in this thread. It might help if Americans understood that much of the world is quite happy with it's racist stances silly David.....don't you know that the US is last remaining completely racist nation in the entire universe - all other countries are perfect - just ask them ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 January 13, 2011 AgreedMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #47 January 13, 2011 >Denegrating a Jew for hating Arabs when that Jew grew up surrounded >by Arabs who want him/her dead is really pretty silly in my view. True. Of course the converse is true - denigrating an arab for hating Jews when that arab grew up surrounded by Jews who wanted his land (and was willing to kill to get it) is equally as silly. Yet each side here attacks the other for exactly the same sort of thinking. And really, they can feel however they want. Once they start killing each other - that's when it gets to be a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #48 January 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteProvide monetary aid being a euphemism for complete military and financial support? US aid to Israel: 3 billion Israel budget: 61 billion Israel defense budget: 13.4 billion Looks like wherever you got your "info" from is *slightly* mistaken. Israel use their own money to fund their military as well? So did the Ukraine 20 years ago. By your logic the Eastern Bloc didn't exist. Israel's actions on the world stage are Israel-US actions - A rigid fact of the current geopolitical landscape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #49 January 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteProvide monetary aid being a euphemism for complete military and financial support? US aid to Israel: 3 billion Israel budget: 61 billion Israel defense budget: 13.4 billion Looks like wherever you got your "info" from is *slightly* mistaken. Israel use their own money to fund their military as well? So did the Ukraine 20 years ago. By your logic the Eastern Bloc didn't exist. YOU made the claim that US aid was "complete military and financial support" - it was proven wrong. Making even MORE illogical claims does nothing to advance your argument.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #50 January 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteProvide monetary aid being a euphemism for complete military and financial support? US aid to Israel: 3 billion Israel budget: 61 billion Israel defense budget: 13.4 billion Looks like wherever you got your "info" from is *slightly* mistaken. Israel use their own money to fund their military as well? So did the Ukraine 20 years ago. By your logic the Eastern Bloc didn't exist. YOU made the claim that US aid was "complete military and financial support" - it was proven wrong. Making even MORE illogical claims does nothing to advance your argument. Proven wrong? Actually it just seems you don't have basic reasoning skills. The US offers complete military and financial support to Israel. The statement wasn't that the US fund the entire Israeli defense budget. Therefore pointing out they don't pay for the entire defense budget says absolutely nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites