Your papers,please!!!

[dj123 0]

So the other day I'm walking toward the exit door of a major discount retailer when the "greeter" ( a lady old enough to be my mother) asks to see *my reciept*.
This store has security cameras throughout and I doubt there was one moment that I was in the store where my actions weren't recorded. I had been *in-line*, waiting to check out, for what seemed like twenty minutes listening to Janet Napolitano tell me about this stores' partnership with Homeland Security in the spy on your neighbor initiative.
I paid for every item in the cart and now this Geriatric Gestapo agent wants to look at "MY" reciept.

Do I;

1)simply comply with her request
2) give her a hard time and then give her "my" reciept
3) inform her that the store has a copy and continue to exit

If anyone knows how, please convert this to a poll type question.

Also, if anyone knows the law, please throw in your opinion on the legal and practical ramifications of not complying with the request.

Blue Skies,
DJ

[normiss 898]

I typically ignore them and keep on walking.

[airdvr 210]

There was something along these lines a few years back with Best-Buy. I believe the conscensus was that whil you're still on their premises you should comply. Once outside you can tell them to fuck off.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[rhaig 0]

at a membership store (costco) I comply. At best buy or frys I just keep walking.

--
Rob

[skyrider 0]

The guy at Best Buy couldn't have been more polite in how he asked, didn't bother me at all!

[dj123 0]

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The guy at Best Buy couldn't have been more polite in how he asked, didn't bother me at all!

Let's say the guy at TSA has the same demeanor.
Will you like him feeling up your wife ?
How about when he puts his finger up your 9 year old daughter?

Will you comply?

I mean, let's look at the parralells;

Since during the Bush administration all e-mails and internet activity have been recorded and compiled in a government data base.
All cellphone calls have been recorded and entered in the same data base.
Digital cameras have been observing almost your every move after you leave your house.

By the time you get to the airport shouldn't they have a pretty good idea that your wife and daughter aren't a threat?


Blues,
DJ

[airdvr 210]

I think they have a name for what you suffer of.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[skyrider 0]

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The guy at Best Buy couldn't have been more polite in how he asked, didn't bother me at all!

Let's say the guy at TSA has the same demeanor.
Will you like him feeling up your wife ?
How about when he puts his finger up your 9 year old daughter?

Will you comply?

I mean, let's look at the parralells;

Since during the Bush administration all e-mails and internet activity have been recorded and compiled in a government data base.
All cellphone calls have been recorded and entered in the same data base.
Digital cameras have been observing almost your every move after you leave your house.

By the time you get to the airport shouldn't they have a pretty good idea that your wife and daughter aren't a threat?


Blues,
DJ

LOL, asking to se my receipt as I am leaving a store, is NO where near your perverted comparison!

[dj123 0]

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I think they have a name for what you suffer of.

Well? Name it.
Or are you just a tease with no teaseticles?

DJ

[dj123 0]

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The guy at Best Buy couldn't have been more polite in how he asked, didn't bother me at all!

Let's say the guy at TSA has the same demeanor.
Will you like him feeling up your wife ?
How about when he puts his finger up your 9 year old daughter?

Will you comply?

I mean, let's look at the parralells;

Since during the Bush administration all e-mails and internet activity have been recorded and compiled in a government data base.
All cellphone calls have been recorded and entered in the same data base.
Digital cameras have been observing almost your every move after you leave your house.

By the time you get to the airport shouldn't they have a pretty good idea that your wife and daughter aren't a threat?


Blues,
DJ

LOL, asking to se my receipt as I am leaving a store, is NO where near your perverted comparison!

Really?
And the frog will jump out of the pan if the heat is too high.

Trick in cooking frog legs is you put the frog in the pan at very low heat. You turn up the heat slowly so he doesn't realize he's being cooked.

Started out with three questions.
"Did you pack your bags?"
"Have these bags been in your posession since "
etc.
Now they want to finger your daughter.

Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.., my ass!!!!

You ,skyrider,by your own account sheepishly comply with some retailers demand that you show the paper that prooves you paid for the merchandise you just paid for in full view of that stores' security cameras and guards.

Why?
What reason do they have to look at your recipt?
There is a copy at the cash register.
The security cameras saw you check out.

What if Wal Mart want's to finger your daughter and feel up your wife?
Are you alright with that ?

Are you OK with that if the perverts are TSA Homeland Security Agents?

Grow a pair !

DJ

[airdvr 210]

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I think they have a name for what you suffer of.

Well? Name it.
Or are you just a tease with no teaseticles?

DJ

Paranoia

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Lindsey 0]

With all the metal I have in me, I ALWAYS get the more thorough search because I'm GONNA set off the metal detectors. I expect it. Never has anyone treated me inappropriately. Certainly nobody has ever put a hand where it didn't belong. They do their jobs, and in my experience, they do them pretty well.

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[dj123 0]

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I think they have a name for what you suffer of.

Well? Name it.
Or are you just a tease with no teaseticles?

DJ

Paranoia

Yeah, whatever.
I'm pretty sure the Founding Fathers were reasonable men and had reason to enumerate the first ten specifically.
Maybe you would call them paranoid and it may be that you could not or would not ever consider standing up for your Rights or the Rights of others.
Could be that you believe that security trumps Freedom.
Could be that you are not very American,or at least you are not "old school American" .
Ya see, .., Patriots believe that the Rights of Men trump the paranoia of corporations and the paranoia of governments.

Walmart is paranoid that all of us are stealing from them even though their own security surveillence would proove otherwise.
The US government wants you to believe that you have forfeited all of your Rights when you purchased a spot on an aqirplane.

Really,
All of you need to grow a pair!!!

Punks,
DJ

[labrys 0]

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Trick in cooking frog legs is you put the frog in the pan at very low heat. You turn up the heat slowly so he doesn't realize he's being cooked.

Ummm... The actual trick is to just kill and clean the frog before you sever its legs and fry them.

Owned by Remi #?

[dj123 0]

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Trick in cooking frog legs is you put the frog in the pan at very low heat. You turn up the heat slowly so he doesn't realize he's being cooked.

Ummm... The actual trick is to just kill and clean the frog before you sever its legs and fry them.

Well that's a good try for the boy from Ohio.
You didn't consider the nerves and muscles that will still respond to heat.
Of course you are right if you want to eat less than fresh frog legs.

Tell me ,
as you are from Ohio and all.., how do you feel about the National Guard responding to peaceful protests with live fire magazines?

Sad fo u,
DJ

[nanook 1]

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Walmart is paranoid that all of us are stealing from them even though their own security surveillence would proove otherwise.

Well, Walmart (as well as any other major company) have proven that it is more profitable to set up the security. There's no paranoia on their part. Their end of year reports show over and over again that security pays off. They just have to compare it to losses before and after they implemented it.

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The US government wants you to believe that you have forfeited all of your Rights when you purchased a spot on an aqirplane

The U. S. Govt. wants you to obey the Laws regarding flying. These are not rights. You have a privelige to use FAA controlled airspace. You should read the disclaimers when purchasing tickets. It's what you agree to obey when you make a decision to buy it. You, however, have a right to use another source of transportation.

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[dj123 0]

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Walmart is paranoid that all of us are stealing from them even though their own security surveillence would proove otherwise.

Well, Walmart (as well as any other major company) have proven that it is more profitable to set up the security. There's no paranoia on their part. Their end of year reports show over and over again that security pays off. They just have to compare it to losses before and after they implemented it.

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The US government wants you to believe that you have forfeited all of your Rights when you purchased a spot on an aqirplane

The U. S. Govt. wants you to obey the Laws regarding flying. These are not rights. You have a privelige to use FAA controlled airspace. You should read the disclaimers when purchasing tickets. It's what you agree to obey when you make a decision to buy it. You, however, have a right to use another source of transportation.

Obviously you don't understand the Constitution. Men do have the Right to travel Freely. It is not a "privelege" but a Right!

Who gives the FAA the authority to deny Man their Natural Right to free travel?

Who says they are all the Kings' deer?
Screw the King!! I'll take what deer I need and I'll travel where I please without restriction!!

You can kiss the crown and genuflect if that's your nature.

I retain my Natural Rights.

DJ

[nanook 1]

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Obviously you don't understand the Constitution. Men do have the Right to travel Freely. It is not a "privelege" but a Right!

Yup. But if you want to use Govt controlled areas, you don't.

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Who gives the FAA the authority to deny Man their Natural Right to free travel?

Are you saying flying is natural?

Feel free to flap you arms and go where you want. Then you can escape the Natural Right/Legal Right paradox. Just don't shit on someone's windshield or you will bring the wrath of someone elses Natural Right.

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Who says they are all the Kings' deer?

That one gentleman with the sword that Kevin Costner (Robin hood?) beat up. Do you suppose that Santa leases them every year?

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I retain my Natural Rights.

Just don't confuse theory with application.

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"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

I began reading the thread halfway tempted to weigh in.
Then, as I read, you got all trollish and weird.

[timmyfitz 0]

That is some fine paranoia and conspiracy theories you've got going on there. You and ryhs should get together and compare notes.

If nothing else, I got a good laugh from your lunacy.





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"1981 to 1988 is 7 years"-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years,Kallend)

The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years.

[popsjumper 2]

Did you take your medication this morning?

Just give them the receipt and quit being an asshole about it.

Geez


As far as your follow-up rants and rages, you may want to double up on that medication.

OTOH...Big Brother IS watching you!

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[rhaig 0]

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The US government wants you to believe that you have forfeited all of your Rights when you purchased a spot on an aqirplane.

you're not on a government run airline (subsidized yes, but not owned). You enter into a legal agreement with that airline when you purchase the ticket. You have a right to interstate travel, not commercial air travel. If you want to maintain all of your rights when you fly, buy a plane.

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Rob

[rhaig 0]

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Who gives the FAA the authority to deny Man their Natural Right to free travel?

look at the troll!!

the FAA isn't keeping you from driving are they?

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Rob

[Amazon 7]

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The guy at Best Buy couldn't have been more polite in how he asked, didn't bother me at all!

Let's say the guy at TSA has the same demeanor.
Will you like him feeling up your wife ?
How about when he puts his finger up your 9 year old daughter?

Will you comply?

I mean, let's look at the parralells;

Since during the Bush administration all e-mails and internet activity have been recorded and compiled in a government data base.
All cellphone calls have been recorded and entered in the same data base.
Digital cameras have been observing almost your every move after you leave your house.

By the time you get to the airport shouldn't they have a pretty good idea that your wife and daughter aren't a threat?


Blues,
DJ

Weeeeeeeell now that was an interesting jump in "logic"

[kelpdiver 2]

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I began reading the thread halfway tempted to weigh in.
Then, as I read, you got all trollish and weird.

I had a line of thought around voting with ones wallet, and then yeah, I missed a few leaps and decided to go to bed.