HIS BIRTH AND OUR NEW BIRTH

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I think it's a very accurate representation of what this day has become.

If you let it

But hey, what ever trips your trigger

Merry Christmas and the peace you appear to miss I hope you find

Marc

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I hope you too have an enjoyable Saturnalia.

Almost all the trimmings of Christmas have pagan origins.

Name one that did not.

The cross would have been viewed as the ultimate in bad taste by those under Roman (pagan) rule - certainly to include Jesus and his followers - since it was a means of execution by torture used exclusively by the Romans, on unruly subjects in particular. It was not until the Romans had successfully hijacked the movement (which was, ironically, geared toward freedom from Rome) that the cross became the symbol of the rebranded movement. Kind of like the mosque in southern Manhattan, eh?


Ho Ho Ho (wasn't that the Jolly Green Giant's catch line as well?),

Winsor

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...There is no mention as to the date of the birth of Jesus Christ in the bible. There is only about a 1:365.25 chance it was December 25...

Less than that actually. The Bible specifically mentions the flocks of sheep having lambs present.

Although the Bethlehem area isn't far enough north to have "winter" as we think of it here, it does get colder that time of year. And lambs in December are pretty unlikely.

I figured that little paradox out in about 6th grade (I was raised Catholic) and asked my parents about it. My dad, who was a devout Catholic but didn't blindly believe in the more ridiculous aspects, explained about Saturnalia (which is Dec 25th) and the politics of bringing the pagans into the fold.

"Wow, so one of your most important holidays is the 25th of December, when you can see for certain that the sun is returning and the days are getting longer again? What a coincidence, that's the day our savior was born!"

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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There is only about a 1:365.25 chance it was December 25

Unless he never existed ... what are the odds of that?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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There is only about a 1:365.25 chance it was December 25

Unless he never existed ...

You'd be better off utilizing that prodigious faith in Christianity...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[kallend 2,151]

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...but would you like to make a point?

I believe he has.

No, you're trying to make a point for him that has nothing to do with what he was talking about.

Don't give up your day job to become a mind reader.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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...but would you like to make a point?

I believe he has.

No, you're trying to make a point for him that has nothing to do with what he was talking about.

Don't give up your day job to become a mind reader.

Do you have roman pagan ancestory?

your surname is rather quite interesting?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[kallend 2,151]

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...but would you like to make a point?

I believe he has.

No, you're trying to make a point for him that has nothing to do with what he was talking about.

Don't give up your day job to become a mind reader.

Do you have roman pagan ancestory?

your surname is rather quite interesting?

That's a first

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.