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Well, these agencies, including the Defense Department, don’t know how much money they’ve got and for what. And I was at – forgive the expression – a Christmas party at the Department of Justice and people actually were really worried about this.



What is the "approved" list?

I was at a...
birthday party
Hannukah party
anniversary party
wedding reception
bar mitzvah

Is the unapproved list just Christmas parties? :S
Could she have said that about parties for other religious groups without immediate outcry?

Last week, I attended a Christmas music special
at the local junior college. I was invited by the clarinet player. He told me that many great Christmas
musicals were written by people who were Jewish... like him.

I'm not religious at all.
I listen to NPR most mornings.
This is just stupid.

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At last, a one-sided issue in SC.

Everyone agrees that you don't need to apologize
for saying "Christmas".

Well... it's early yet.
Next Christmas, someone's fee-wings will get hurt and...

Interesting. Either I am the only one who reads the news
on the Interwebs, or the only one unafraid to speak.

I can understand if it were Spain or Britain.
The political climate there limits use of "offensive" religious phrases, but the US ? Christmas? Really?

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the Grinch who stole reality

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"They said, 'maliciously maim students with the intent to injure.' And I don't think any of us here intentionally meant to injure anyone, or did," said Zakk Rhine, a junior at Battlefield High School.

The boys say they were just tossing small two-inch candy canes to fellow students as they entered school. The ones in plastic wrap that are so small they often break apart.

Skylar Torbett, also a junior, said administrators told him, "They said the candy canes are weapons because you can sharpen them with your mouth and stab people with them." He said neither he nor any of their friend did that.



A possibility of some Christmas stabbin' going on.
(After all, so many candy cane stabbings have happened before. Columbine, for instance.)

When Christmas candy is outlawed, only Jews will have candy... or something. :S
Wait til the school admins find out that the students
have The Sharpened Pencils of Death. :o

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Mother Kathleen Flannery said an administrator called her and explained "not everyone wants Christmas cheer. That suicide rates are up over Christmas, and that they should keep their cheer to themselves, perhaps."



The solution to suicide is... less happiness?
What school of logic teaches that little gem?

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I for one am sick of this pathetic PC crap. Holiday Season? ITs Christmas! So the Jewish faith is celebrating Hanaka (Well happy Hanaka to them) but we're having time off work because its Christmas not for any other reason. So happy birthday Jesus. (and no I couldn't care less that its not the actual date of his birth or that its overlayed on pagan festivals)

Why is Jesus being written out of Christmas? Its plain wrong.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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"Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to our god alone. I enquire after no man's and trouble none with mine; nor is it given to us in this life to know whether yours or mine, our friend's or our foe's, are exactly the right." - Thomas Jefferson
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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I for one am sick of this pathetic PC crap. .



I haven't really seen any of that directly this year. But, neat thing about the internet - if anything good or bad on this subject happens even one place, somewhere, we'll be able to get outraged about it and then argue over how somebody worded a statement in the thread.

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The Sharpened Pencils of Death. :o



Nah, that school has long since replaced all writing implements with ultra light-weight chalk spheres to be used on monolithic slate cubes as desks that are too heavy to lift.

But as rehmwa said, the internet is like a sieve that filters out normalcy. Case and point, how many times have you heard someone say, "What's with blogging? Nobody wants to read about you buying coffee in the morning." Well guess what, thousands and thousands of school administrators just bought coffee that morning (and maybe commented on twitter about "how short the line happened to be that day, isn't that weird?") but one of them goes non-linear and bans candy canes and here we are.

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"They said, 'maliciously maim students with the intent to injure.' And I don't think any of us here intentionally meant to injure anyone, or did," said Zakk Rhine, a junior at Battlefield High School.

The boys say they were just tossing small two-inch candy canes to fellow students as they entered school. The ones in plastic wrap that are so small they often break apart.

Skylar Torbett, also a junior, said administrators told him, "They said the candy canes are weapons because you can sharpen them with your mouth and stab people with them." He said neither he nor any of their friend did that.



A possibility of some Christmas stabbin' going on.
(After all, so many candy cane stabbings have happened before. Columbine, for instance.)

When Christmas candy is outlawed, only Jews will have candy... or something. :S
Wait til the school admins find out that the students
have The Sharpened Pencils of Death. :o



And they can blame TV for it too. ;)

http://www.hulu.com/watch/198464/american-dad-for-whom-the-sleigh-bells-tolls?c=1035:1056
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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Compliments of the season mate to you and yours. So, have a Very Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to you and your family too. :)








"Happy Holidays" ... My P.C arse:S


When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Interesting. Either I am the only one who reads the news
on the Interwebs, or the only one unafraid to speak.



Yes. Yes, that's probably it. In a, what, 80% plus christian (often extremely christian) country you are the only person who isn't too scared to say the word christmas. And those other 50 odd threads that crop up on exactly the same subject every damn year, they were just hallucinations or something.

In the words of Bad Santa, are you fuckin' with me?

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Well... it's early yet.
Next Christmas, someone's fee-wings will get hurt and...



Ah now, if you want to see hurt feelings just wait until someone points out that neither the celebration, nor the date, nor the majority of symbols and practices associated with it actually come from the Christian tradition, then you'll barely be able to move for moral outrage.

And I wonder if you've ever actually been to Britain, you know we still actually have a state religion, right?

But anyway, Merry christmas to you, see if you can give your blood pressure a rest and actually enjoy it, eh?;)
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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All this 'PC' crap is just that... CRAP! The way I see it is... if, those of us who celebrate Christmas have to be so tolerant of others as to not even mention Christmas, seems to me, they should do the same and not even mention their holidays. I'm tired of all those folks who want it just their way.
With that in mind... A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE!!!


Chuck

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I for one am sick of this pathetic PC crap. Holiday Season? ITs Christmas! So the Jewish faith is celebrating Hanaka (Well happy Hanaka to them) but we're having time off work because its Christmas not for any other reason. So happy birthday Jesus. (and no I couldn't care less that its not the actual date of his birth or that its overlayed on pagan festivals)



You and I agree on something. Shit is the world about to stop spinning!?!?

I talk to people all day on the phone at work. It is awkward at the end of the phone calls. Do you say goodbye? Happy Holidays? Or Merry Christmas? I can actually here the relief in some peoples voices if I say Merry Christmas. They get so happy to say it back.
Dom


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What I find really funny, is that a lot of the folks that say Happy Holidays ... seem to have no idea of the etymology of the word(s) Holiday. :D:D:D:D:D:D



now if you keep on you will get them all stirred up and they will have to change that to.


Actually that's already been targetted by the PC police as not everyone celebrates something.

I believe the PC way to say it now is Happy Winter season or something like that, :S

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Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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I draw the line at Kwanzaa.

"Christmas" is but the political hijacking of a perfectly good pagan celebration, and it retains the bulk of the Yule festival with just enough of the "baby Jesus" dreck to make it acceptable to Rome. As well as can be verified (difficult when trying to sort through mythology) Cousin Jesus was born in the Spring anyway.

As typified by "Christmas," much of what we know as "Christianity" is the politically motivated rebranding of whatever suited the Grand Poobah de jour; the relatives of Cousin Jesus got pushed to the side and the people who killed him and anyone who looked like him took charge. Paul and Constantine come to mind.

As far as some fat Germanic type flying around with an aircraft powered by Arctic quadripeds goes, I really do not see the religious significance. The link between the Thomas Nast version of "Santa Claus" and the Byzantine bigwig Nicholas is weak, indeed.

Having a bash to celebrate the point at which the days are no longer getting shorter is a good thing. Short days suck. Frostbite sucks. Frozen pipes suck. You get the drift.

So break out the Yule Log, hang stuff on the good old Pagan Tannenbaum, give each other some chachkas (the commercial says a Mercedes is in order, but I was thinking a sweater would be good), and "sacrifice" the odd virgin ('there was a virgin here a while ago, but not anymore - did you kill her?' 'Not exactly...').

Chanukah is a very minor holiday (on a par with Purim - any Goyim know what that is?), which ostensibly celebrates the Children of Israel withstanding assimilation. Ironically enough, it is the most assimilated of all Jewish holidays. Luckily, the food centers around Latkes instead of "perforated cardboard" (matzos).

Kwanzaa, OTOH, is a bad joke. It came from someone who did not understand the significance of "Black is Beautiful, the check is in the mail, and I promise I won't cum in your mouth." Kwanzaa makes Scientology or Mormon seem legitimate by comparison; Leprechauns and the Tooth Fairy have more solid precedent in tradition.

In any event, a "Christmas Party" has so little to do in practice with anything religious that I am quite happy to show up and eat cookies and drink eggnog. If it really was all in honor of Cousin Jesus the spread would be strictly Kosher, so treif makes it secular, right?

So Merry Christmas to all.


Sholom,

Winsor

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Kwanzaa, OTOH, is a bad joke. It came from someone who did not understand the significance of "Black is Beautiful, the check is in the mail, and I promise I won't cum in your mouth." Kwanzaa makes Scientology or Mormon seem legitimate by comparison; Leprechauns and the Tooth Fairy have more solid precedent in tradition.



Wow.

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