billvon 3,108 #301 December 29, 2010 >and you take the profit I plan to not profit at all; just cover the mortgage payments. So how about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #302 December 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you lie or has anyone stated they want to keep all their money from the gov IE: pay no taxes Well? All those who claim taxes = theft are implicitly making that claim. Maybe if that was the claim but you leave out the context as usual a half truth You show me dear sir Where has anyone here ever stated they do not want to pay any tax at all? And do it in the context of the thread You will not be able to So you support the lie Amazon made and then you perpetuate it Shameful So in addition to hating the Constitution you also support theft. Interesting. You are takeing posting lessons from dreamy now? Your desperation is show John You just livin the lie I guess Did you fail to read the many "taxes = theft" posts from those of your ilk? Anyone supporting ANY taxes and subscribing to that position, is supporting theft. Your own words show the contradiction in your position and your total inability to make a logical post. Nice John nice john yes there you go "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #303 December 29, 2010 QuoteEvery time you stop building a "palace for the rich" you lay off construction workers. Every time you give someone welfare you have to get the money from other people. if the super rich are building too many palaces/follies and diverting workers away from the real economy then the real economy will keep crashing. i agree that the bankers and the super rich have soaked up vast amounts of welfare from us and need to pay it back.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #304 December 29, 2010 >if the super rich are building too many palaces/follies and diverting >workers away from the real economy then the real economy will keep >crashing. Construction IS part of the 'real economy.' It relies on people building stuff. >i agree that the bankers and the super rich have soaked up vast >amounts of welfare from us and need to pay it back. In that case, what better way than to dole out hefty paychecks to the construction specialists needed to build those palaces? You can't get an immigrant from Home Depot to install a Chihuly in an entry hall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #305 December 29, 2010 Quote>and you take the profit I plan to not profit at all; just cover the mortgage payments. So how about it? that's a profit (you end up with a free house while your tenant pays the mortgage - nice)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #306 December 29, 2010 >you end up with a free house while your tenant pays the mortgage - nice That's how renting works. You can do even better, though. Get a mortgage, buy a house, rent it out for free, then just don't pay the mortgage. You'll screw those evil super rich bankers and provide a home for needy families at the same time! And if a lot of people do that and cause a second, deeper recession, well, you certainly had nothing to do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #307 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteEvery time you stop building a "palace for the rich" you lay off construction workers. Every time you give someone welfare you have to get the money from other people. if the super rich are building too many palaces/follies and diverting workers away from the real economy then the real economy will keep crashing. i agree that the bankers and the super rich have soaked up vast amounts of welfare from us and need to pay it back. If the construction company was already working a job, they wouldn't have been able to take the contract to build the 'palace/folly'. So, you're saying it's better for the company to not have taken the 'palace' job and not have any income. That seems entirely consistent with the understanding you've shown about money issues to date.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #308 December 29, 2010 Quote>if the super rich are building too many palaces/follies and diverting >workers away from the real economy then the real economy will keep >crashing. Construction IS part of the 'real economy.' It relies on people building stuff. ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. one or two palaces/follies an economy can sustain - but too many and those workers are just being wasted. the economic cost is what they could have been doing with their time instead (building roads, bridges etc...)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #309 December 29, 2010 Quote>Do you have an extra room or even some basement space wher you >could take a coupke or a small family in? Not yet. We don't have basements out here, sadly. But soon we will (hopefully) have a rental house where we can take a small family in.Quote Could you let just one homeless man sleep on your couch? LOL!!! OK . I understand how that might freak your family out and be a real security risk. Glad to know that you are thinking that way in the future. You are a good man , Bilvon, please let us know here when you take in that homeless family. Unlimited Ceilings, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #310 December 29, 2010 Quote>you end up with a free house while your tenant pays the mortgage - nice That's how renting works. don't deny you're making a profit though - be open about it, embrace the profit, become the profit, live the profit... (that's how the super rich do it)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #311 December 29, 2010 >Could you let just one homeless man sleep on your couch? Sure! But I think he might prefer to sleep on a bed. Four bedrooms so he will have his pick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #312 December 29, 2010 >ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. No it doesn't. Ipods, movies and beer are not useful in any objective sense - but they make a lot of people a lot of money, and consumer entertainment and alcoholic beverages are a big part of our economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #313 December 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you lie or has anyone stated they want to keep all their money from the gov IE: pay no taxes Well? All those who claim taxes = theft are implicitly making that claim. Maybe if that was the claim but you leave out the context as usual a half truth You show me dear sir Where has anyone here ever stated they do not want to pay any tax at all? And do it in the context of the thread You will not be able to So you support the lie Amazon made and then you perpetuate it Shameful So in addition to hating the Constitution you also support theft. Interesting. You are takeing posting lessons from dreamy now? Your desperation is show John You just livin the lie I guess Did you fail to read the many "taxes = theft" posts from those of your ilk? Anyone supporting ANY taxes and subscribing to that position, is supporting theft. Your own words show the contradiction in your position and your total inability to make a logical post. Nice John nice john yes there you go Indeed! Your own contradiction has caught up with you and you have no logical response.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #314 December 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you lie or has anyone stated they want to keep all their money from the gov IE: pay no taxes Well? All those who claim taxes = theft are implicitly making that claim. Maybe if that was the claim but you leave out the context as usual a half truth You show me dear sir Where has anyone here ever stated they do not want to pay any tax at all? And do it in the context of the thread You will not be able to So you support the lie Amazon made and then you perpetuate it Shameful So in addition to hating the Constitution you also support theft. Interesting. You are takeing posting lessons from dreamy now? Your desperation is show John You just livin the lie I guess Did you fail to read the many "taxes = theft" posts from those of your ilk? Anyone supporting ANY taxes and subscribing to that position, is supporting theft. Your own words show the contradiction in your position and your total inability to make a logical post. Nice John nice john yes there you go Indeed! Your own contradiction has caught up with you and you have no logical response. Of course, the reverse is the liberal view of 'less tax=theft from the government' which is equally fallacious.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #315 December 29, 2010 [replyThe banks weren't in debt when this thing started.Quote See , that statement shows that you don't understand the real problem. Here are the facts Bill. The Banks got themselves imto a mess. What they did was CRIMINAL . The bailout is about hiding their criminal acts. Got Facts? Blues, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #316 December 29, 2010 Quote>ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. No it doesn't. Ipods, movies and beer are not useful in any objective sense - but they make a lot of people a lot of money, and consumer entertainment and alcoholic beverages are a big part of our economy. so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? i don't think so. the super rich are distorting the economy and they will crash us again if we let them. it's just the nature of the beast. money must make money must make money - until it can't anymore. crashtime again.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #317 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #318 December 29, 2010 >so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #319 December 29, 2010 >The Banks got themselves imto a mess. >What they did was CRIMINAL. Apparently not; not many people have been indicted, much less convicted. Their error was stupidity and shortsightedness. Ironically this is exactly the same combination of factors that led mortgage holders to make the same stupid mistakes. Let's look at this a different way. Should you be denied a mortgage if you ever apply for one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #320 December 29, 2010 Quote>so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work (aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. i wasn't there in the twenties but imagine that's what happened back then.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #321 December 29, 2010 $90 mil is "super rich"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #322 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #323 December 30, 2010 >so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work >(aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. I agree there. If there is so much work that there is not enough labor to complete important infrastructure projects, then the economy is helped by reducing demand for labor. In other words, if unemployment is very close to zero, palaces are a problem. That's not currently the case. So right now, those palaces will help, not hurt, the economy. If the economy improves, then it might get to a point where it will indeed hurt overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #324 December 30, 2010 >can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which >holds common wage earners liable for income tax? ================== There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of— (1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and (2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2 (a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table: (etc) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #325 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ I bet Wesley Snipes can.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 21 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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dreamdancer 0 #310 December 29, 2010 Quote>you end up with a free house while your tenant pays the mortgage - nice That's how renting works. don't deny you're making a profit though - be open about it, embrace the profit, become the profit, live the profit... (that's how the super rich do it)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #311 December 29, 2010 >Could you let just one homeless man sleep on your couch? Sure! But I think he might prefer to sleep on a bed. Four bedrooms so he will have his pick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #312 December 29, 2010 >ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. No it doesn't. Ipods, movies and beer are not useful in any objective sense - but they make a lot of people a lot of money, and consumer entertainment and alcoholic beverages are a big part of our economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #313 December 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you lie or has anyone stated they want to keep all their money from the gov IE: pay no taxes Well? All those who claim taxes = theft are implicitly making that claim. Maybe if that was the claim but you leave out the context as usual a half truth You show me dear sir Where has anyone here ever stated they do not want to pay any tax at all? And do it in the context of the thread You will not be able to So you support the lie Amazon made and then you perpetuate it Shameful So in addition to hating the Constitution you also support theft. Interesting. You are takeing posting lessons from dreamy now? Your desperation is show John You just livin the lie I guess Did you fail to read the many "taxes = theft" posts from those of your ilk? Anyone supporting ANY taxes and subscribing to that position, is supporting theft. Your own words show the contradiction in your position and your total inability to make a logical post. Nice John nice john yes there you go Indeed! Your own contradiction has caught up with you and you have no logical response.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #314 December 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you lie or has anyone stated they want to keep all their money from the gov IE: pay no taxes Well? All those who claim taxes = theft are implicitly making that claim. Maybe if that was the claim but you leave out the context as usual a half truth You show me dear sir Where has anyone here ever stated they do not want to pay any tax at all? And do it in the context of the thread You will not be able to So you support the lie Amazon made and then you perpetuate it Shameful So in addition to hating the Constitution you also support theft. Interesting. You are takeing posting lessons from dreamy now? Your desperation is show John You just livin the lie I guess Did you fail to read the many "taxes = theft" posts from those of your ilk? Anyone supporting ANY taxes and subscribing to that position, is supporting theft. Your own words show the contradiction in your position and your total inability to make a logical post. Nice John nice john yes there you go Indeed! Your own contradiction has caught up with you and you have no logical response. Of course, the reverse is the liberal view of 'less tax=theft from the government' which is equally fallacious.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #315 December 29, 2010 [replyThe banks weren't in debt when this thing started.Quote See , that statement shows that you don't understand the real problem. Here are the facts Bill. The Banks got themselves imto a mess. What they did was CRIMINAL . The bailout is about hiding their criminal acts. Got Facts? Blues, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #316 December 29, 2010 Quote>ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. No it doesn't. Ipods, movies and beer are not useful in any objective sense - but they make a lot of people a lot of money, and consumer entertainment and alcoholic beverages are a big part of our economy. so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? i don't think so. the super rich are distorting the economy and they will crash us again if we let them. it's just the nature of the beast. money must make money must make money - until it can't anymore. crashtime again.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #317 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #318 December 29, 2010 >so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #319 December 29, 2010 >The Banks got themselves imto a mess. >What they did was CRIMINAL. Apparently not; not many people have been indicted, much less convicted. Their error was stupidity and shortsightedness. Ironically this is exactly the same combination of factors that led mortgage holders to make the same stupid mistakes. Let's look at this a different way. Should you be denied a mortgage if you ever apply for one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #320 December 29, 2010 Quote>so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work (aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. i wasn't there in the twenties but imagine that's what happened back then.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #321 December 29, 2010 $90 mil is "super rich"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #322 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #323 December 30, 2010 >so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work >(aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. I agree there. If there is so much work that there is not enough labor to complete important infrastructure projects, then the economy is helped by reducing demand for labor. In other words, if unemployment is very close to zero, palaces are a problem. That's not currently the case. So right now, those palaces will help, not hurt, the economy. If the economy improves, then it might get to a point where it will indeed hurt overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #324 December 30, 2010 >can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which >holds common wage earners liable for income tax? ================== There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of— (1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and (2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2 (a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table: (etc) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #325 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ I bet Wesley Snipes can.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 21 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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dreamdancer 0 #316 December 29, 2010 Quote>ultimately the economy depends on workers being directed into useful work. No it doesn't. Ipods, movies and beer are not useful in any objective sense - but they make a lot of people a lot of money, and consumer entertainment and alcoholic beverages are a big part of our economy. so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? i don't think so. the super rich are distorting the economy and they will crash us again if we let them. it's just the nature of the beast. money must make money must make money - until it can't anymore. crashtime again.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #317 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #318 December 29, 2010 >so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #319 December 29, 2010 >The Banks got themselves imto a mess. >What they did was CRIMINAL. Apparently not; not many people have been indicted, much less convicted. Their error was stupidity and shortsightedness. Ironically this is exactly the same combination of factors that led mortgage holders to make the same stupid mistakes. Let's look at this a different way. Should you be denied a mortgage if you ever apply for one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #320 December 29, 2010 Quote>so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work (aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. i wasn't there in the twenties but imagine that's what happened back then.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 892 #321 December 29, 2010 $90 mil is "super rich"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #322 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #323 December 30, 2010 >so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work >(aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. I agree there. If there is so much work that there is not enough labor to complete important infrastructure projects, then the economy is helped by reducing demand for labor. In other words, if unemployment is very close to zero, palaces are a problem. That's not currently the case. So right now, those palaces will help, not hurt, the economy. If the economy improves, then it might get to a point where it will indeed hurt overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #324 December 30, 2010 >can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which >holds common wage earners liable for income tax? ================== There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of— (1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and (2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2 (a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table: (etc) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #325 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ I bet Wesley Snipes can.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 21 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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billvon 3,108 #318 December 29, 2010 >so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #319 December 29, 2010 >The Banks got themselves imto a mess. >What they did was CRIMINAL. Apparently not; not many people have been indicted, much less convicted. Their error was stupidity and shortsightedness. Ironically this is exactly the same combination of factors that led mortgage holders to make the same stupid mistakes. Let's look at this a different way. Should you be denied a mortgage if you ever apply for one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #320 December 29, 2010 Quote>so the economy will be fine if all it does is produce ipods? Nope. That's just one part of the economy. It won't be "fine" if all it does is produce ipods (or fix roads and bridges.) so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work (aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. i wasn't there in the twenties but imagine that's what happened back then.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #321 December 29, 2010 $90 mil is "super rich"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #322 December 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #323 December 30, 2010 >so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work >(aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. I agree there. If there is so much work that there is not enough labor to complete important infrastructure projects, then the economy is helped by reducing demand for labor. In other words, if unemployment is very close to zero, palaces are a problem. That's not currently the case. So right now, those palaces will help, not hurt, the economy. If the economy improves, then it might get to a point where it will indeed hurt overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,108 #324 December 30, 2010 >can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which >holds common wage earners liable for income tax? ================== There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of— (1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and (2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2 (a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table: (etc) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #325 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ I bet Wesley Snipes can.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 21 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
billvon 3,108 #323 December 30, 2010 >so i'm saying there's a tipping point when all the non-useful work >(aka building palaces/follies) can become too dominant. I agree there. If there is so much work that there is not enough labor to complete important infrastructure projects, then the economy is helped by reducing demand for labor. In other words, if unemployment is very close to zero, palaces are a problem. That's not currently the case. So right now, those palaces will help, not hurt, the economy. If the economy improves, then it might get to a point where it will indeed hurt overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #324 December 30, 2010 >can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which >holds common wage earners liable for income tax? ================== There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of— (1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and (2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2 (a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table: (etc) ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #325 December 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePut down the shovel climb the ladder and back away Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ I bet Wesley Snipes can.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 21 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
