GeorgiaDon 385
Don
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
QuoteQuoteQuote"On Nov. 29, all 42 GOP senators signed a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) stating that they wanted to first pass the tax and government-spending bills before voting on any other matters."
it's as simple as that.
It is simple; Tax cuts for the rich before national security and also deny Obama any acheivments.
National security should always trump politics, This seems obvious to every former living secretary of state.
The tax year ends in 2 weeks. People have to make decisions in December based on the policies of the current year and next year. This is particularly true when substantial change is coming. If the status quo is maintained (to be precise, that all the sunset provisions are allow to expire), then many people would be selling their equities to get their capital gains at the lower rate. Some people might sell equities that were dividend focused. And people at the cusp of AMT taxes (middle class, primarily, though they were never intended to be the target of the AMT) would also need to act or gamble on what might happen with the annual AMT patch process.
OTOH, not ratifying a new START before January doesn't make a lick of difference to national security. Never ratifying it won't make a big difference - the Cold War is over, people! And our most prominent enemies won't sign nor abide by said agreement.
Of course what this comes down to is the GOP saying "We won." Just as Obama said "I won" 2 years ago to push along his preferred agenda. The obvious solution is for the losers to get the tax issues resolved. Then pursue DADT (Obama just end that with a single executive decision) and anything else they want to do before Christmas.
rushmc 23
QuoteSo a new arms race is your version of a "stimulus plan"?
Don
Why?
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jakee 1,611
QuoteWhy do you support the US being weaker?

Yes, 'weaker'. Kinda like everest getting 'shorter' when a foot of spindrift is blown off the top.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteWhy do you support the US being weaker?
Yes, 'weaker'. Kinda like everest getting 'shorter' when a foot of spindrift is blown off the top.
A spelling come back
atta boy

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
GeorgiaDon 385
You completely missed the point.QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy do you support the US being weaker?
Yes, 'weaker'. Kinda like everest getting 'shorter' when a foot of spindrift is blown off the top.
A spelling come back
atta boy![]()
Atta boy indeed.

Don
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
rushmc 23
QuoteYou completely missed the point.QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy do you support the US being weaker?
Yes, 'weaker'. Kinda like everest getting 'shorter' when a foot of spindrift is blown off the top.
A spelling come back
atta boy![]()
Atta boy indeed.
Don
Not missed
Ingored maybe?


if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Erroll 80
QuoteA spelling come back

rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteA spelling come back
sninker>

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DaVinci 0
Waiting till Jan 1 will have an impact on the tax plan, but will not have an impact on START.
Simple as that really.
rushmc 23
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Amazon 7
You fuckers crack me the fuck up.. I bet yall style yourselves as pro-life
DUUUUUUUUDES do you have ANY idea at all about how many thermonuclear weapons it takes to destroy life as we have known it for the last 10000 years.
I am thinking that being able to destroy it only 25 times over is still just a tad bit of over kill from the say 30 times over that we have now.
Just sayin
Now back to your Pro-Life Schizoid personality disorder programming.
rushmc 23
Quote
You fuckers crack me the fuck up.. I bet yall style yourselves as pro-life
DUUUUUUUUDES do you have ANY idea at all about how many thermonuclear weapons it takes to destroy life as we have known it for the last 10000 years.
I am thinking that being able to destroy it only 25 times over is still just a tad bit of over kill from the say 30 times over that we have now.
Just sayin
Now back to your Pro-Life Schizoid personality disorder programming.
You live in a world where all you do is insult those you think you must disagree with.
and you ignore your own mis steps while doing it
Now excuse me while I try to see if I really know what a Mexican looks like

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Amazon 7
rushmc 23
QuoteBe sure to take a good supply of cobs with you on the search.
So I cam make some ethonal?
On
And I am still waiting to see what a non Iowan looks like

if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Amazon 7
QuoteQuoteBe sure to take a good supply of cobs with you on the search.
So I cam make some ethonal?
On
And I am still waiting to see what a non Iowan looks like![]()
Well get out of CORN LAND more.... there are a few billion of us


Quote
DUUUUUUUUDES do you have ANY idea at all about how many thermonuclear weapons it takes to destroy life as we have known it for the last 10000 years.
When the US and the Soviet Union had 70some thousand bombs, rather than the 20,000 now (7k active), we somehow survived.
I feel pretty confident that we'll avoid nuclear extinction for the next couple months.
As tempting as it is to listin to the likes of Limbaugh, Beck and Palin on national security, I think I will stick with these guys:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120104598.html
You would trust Sen.Kit Bond over the aboved mentioned? What motivation would Kissinger, Easgleburger, Powlle, Shultz, Rice, and Baker have for being in favor of this treaty? not to mention GW 41.
You tell me!
Fact is we are to reduce and they are not in the end
Why do you support the US being weaker?
As for the Washington compost?
You can keep that left wing rag
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln