Andy9o8 3 #1 December 10, 2010 http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/12/08/16478011.html QuoteCALGARY — The Salvation Army says it refuses to distribute Harry Potter and Twilight toys collected for needy children because they're incompatible with the charity's Christian beliefs. The policy has alarmed a Calgarian who volunteered to sift through a southeast warehouse full of unused, donated items and was alarmed when he was told by Salvation Army officials that the two kinds of toys are "disposed of" and not given to other charities. "I asked if these toys went to another charitable organizations but was told no, that by passing these toys on to another agency for distribution would be supporting these toys," said the man, who wouldn't give his name due to his occupation. The man called himself an admirer of the Salvation Army and was impressed by the massive quantity of toys collected in city malls, schools and police stations through the Toy Mountain campaign. But he questioned why the charity would be sifting out Harry Potter and Twilight toys, which involve sorcery and vampire themes, respectively. "I was told to withhold a six-inch Harry Potter figure, but when I picked up a plastic M-16, I was told, 'That's for the 10-year-olds,'" he said. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #2 December 10, 2010 Fundamentalists waging war on Christmas! Taking toys out of children's hands! Where's O'Reilly? Where's Coulter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 December 10, 2010 Quote"I was told to withhold a six-inch Harry Potter figure, but when I picked up a plastic M-16, I was told, 'That's for the 10-year-olds,'" he said. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" The comparison is just an example of HIS bias as well - hypocrit - So it's ok for him to determine what's "appropriate" but not ok for the SA. so he and the Salvation Army are both out of line - maybe the parents can decide what kind of toys their kids can have - what a radical idea ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #4 December 10, 2010 QuoteQuote"I was told to withhold a six-inch Harry Potter figure, but when I picked up a plastic M-16, I was told, 'That's for the 10-year-olds,'" he said. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" The comparison is just an example of HIS bias as well - hypocrit - So it's ok for him to determine what's "appropriate" but not ok for the SA. so he and the Salvation Army are both out of line - maybe the parents can decide what kind of toys their kids can have - what a radical idea I suspect that it was more that he found the SA to be hypocritical for using what he perceived as a double-standard by an organization holding itself out as exemplifying Christian principles - i.e., for not asking themselves "WWJD" and, on that basis, ALSO rejecting toys based on weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 December 10, 2010 I guess it depends on the verbal emphasis your and my imaginations puts on that written quote. either way ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #6 December 10, 2010 Quote Fundamentalists waging war on Christmas! Taking toys out of children's hands! Where's O'Reilly? Where's Coulter? I would hope everyone is Outraged! BUT, if they want to be a religious organisation, and not accept things to do with Witchcraft, it is their choice, there are plenty of places to give toys to needed families (I was in one of those families back in the early 60's) I just hope they redonate, not waste them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #7 December 10, 2010 BTW folks , It is about Witchcraft ,, NOT violence!Violence is accepted by almost all christian religions... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #8 December 10, 2010 Quote maybe the parents can decide what kind of toys their kids can have - what a radical idea Sure they can, by PURCHASING those toys. newsflash, kiddies-we're talking about free shit. They are well within acceptable behavior to set these limits. I think it's a silly line to draw but since I'm not the one doing the work-my say so should really mean nothing to them. If it really bothers you too much, don't give to the SA. Find a charity more in line with your position or go offer more direct assistance to a family in need. Or, sit on your dead ass, don't do anything but bitch about someone else does it.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #9 December 10, 2010 Quotethe two kinds of toys are "disposed of" and not given to other charities. They should be burned at the stake!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 December 10, 2010 QuoteI would hope everyone is Outraged! ...sorry, not feeling it dude. I tend not to get all pissed off over toys either way...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #11 December 10, 2010 >sorry, not feeling it dude. But it's a WAR ON CHRISTMAS! A WAR! On CHRISTMAS! If you don't get outraged enough, a lot of hardworking mainstream media pundits are going to have a hard time staying on the air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #12 December 10, 2010 Quote BTW folks , It is about Witchcraft ,, NOT violence! jeeze dude...reading comprehension problem again! But he questioned why the charity would be sifting out Harry Potter and Twilight toys, which involve sorcery and vampire themes, respectively. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" ...no wonder you think christians accept violence.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #13 December 10, 2010 Quote >sorry, not feeling it dude. But it's a WAR ON CHRISTMAS! A WAR! On CHRISTMAS! If you don't get outraged enough, a lot of hardworking mainstream media pundits are going to have a hard time staying on the air. Good... Besides, I more of a scrooge when it comes to Christmas...it has lost it's meaning... Score one for Satan...um...I mean Santa...that fat ass gun slinging deer whipping slave master.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #14 December 10, 2010 QuoteFundamentalists waging war on Christmas! This is the true war on Christmas: Raging Rudolph Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #15 December 10, 2010 Quote Quote "I was told to withhold a six-inch Harry Potter figure, but when I picked up a plastic M-16, I was told, 'That's for the 10-year-olds,'" he said. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" The comparison is just an example of HIS bias as well - hypocrit - So it's ok for him to determine what's "appropriate" but not ok for the SA. so he and the Salvation Army are both out of line - maybe the parents can decide what kind of toys their kids can have - what a radical idea No, that's an example of your bias against anyone who criticises anyone else He didn't say he would have filtered out any toys as being inappropriate.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #16 December 10, 2010 Quote Quote BTW folks , It is about Witchcraft ,, NOT violence! jeeze dude...reading comprehension problem again! But he questioned why the charity would be sifting out Harry Potter and Twilight toys, which involve sorcery and vampire themes, respectively. "I was shocked...war-themed toys and toys from TV shows and movies with far more violence than Harry Potter and these were considered appropriate toys?" ...no wonder you think christians accept violence. It is the Salvation ARMY after all. They are modeled as a paramilitary organization."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #17 December 10, 2010 Trivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #18 December 10, 2010 QuoteTrivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? It's not a real Army - more like a 3 ring circus (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #19 December 10, 2010 Quote Quote Trivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? It's not a real Army - more like a 3 ring circus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #20 December 10, 2010 QuoteTrivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? Bill Booth founded the salvation army. I didn't even have to look that up. He had a long-ass beard, too."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #21 December 10, 2010 I had a feelin the Seleton Army would show up throwing their rocks... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #22 December 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteTrivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? Bill Booth founded the salvation army. I didn't even have to look that up. He had a long-ass beard, too. And he played a Gretsch Billy-Bo, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 December 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteTrivia quiz - what famous skydiver founded the Salvation Army? Bill Booth founded the salvation army. I didn't even have to look that up. He had a long-ass beard, too. And he played a Gretsch Billy-Bo, too. Hey if the SA was really into conservative values.. they would accept that werewolves.. vampires.. and witches were real. They certainly burned enough people over the centuries for being those things. Its part of the values of the church. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 December 10, 2010 QuoteHey if the SA was really into conservative values.. they would accept that werewolves.. vampires.. and witches were real. They certainly burned enough people over the centuries for being those things. Its part of the values of the church. Yes, all those burnings since the 1860's....just terrible. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 December 11, 2010 QuoteQuoteHey if the SA was really into conservative values.. they would accept that werewolves.. vampires.. and witches were real. They certainly burned enough people over the centuries for being those things. Its part of the values of the church. Yes, all those burnings since the 1860's....just terrible. Most of the rituals.. and teachings are far far older... the history of most of the christian churces is shall we say rather toasty for those who did follow what the particular church in power at any given time. Why are you at your current location??? Church based bullshit ... where one group of religious fanatics can't tolerate their neighbors who do not pray the same way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
