wmw999 2,603 #26 December 9, 2010 Quote No but are you are 21 blond and size 6 I include all of those qualities 21 is a subset of my age 6 is a subset of my size blond is a subset of my hair color Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #27 December 9, 2010 QuoteQuotei was addressing the facts in this situation. go to the top of the thread, follow the link, read the article. he was on facebook praising jihadists for months. he tried to recruit 3 others who, like sane people, rejected him. he expressed interest in going to Afghanistan to fight. this was his publicly expressed opinion for months. read the article on the link. if anyone was pushing this kid, it happened before the fbi was called by the informant. I read the link. I stand by what I said the internet has a nasty habit of making people say stupid things. How come everyone on the internet has a big dick? It is the same basic principle talking big behind an screen name. As I said in my original post there is a fine line to be walked. I fully support our security services infiltrating terrorist groups and I know that this means that they have to "Participate". Participation obviously means making a contribution seen as valuable by the suspects BUT I am tempered by the realisation that a lonely misguided young person bragging on the internet might need therapy more than arrest. So do you agree with the UK prosecuting this guy and the measures taken? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html in the US, you are considered an adult at 18. you are deemed responsible for your actions. you can even vote for a different president if you disagree on politics. he may be lonely, or whatver, but he is a violent homicidal person. he can get therapy in jail until he understands the problem. your whole acceptance of this seems ludicrous to the level of fantasy. real crazies go to real jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 651 #28 December 9, 2010 but you can't drink alcohol till you're 21I agree with you that crime needs punishing and I certainly don't believe that "kids" have free reign because they are young and stupid. I guess I am just a little sceptical on these "wins". I feel that they are suspiciously like easy "wins" to show that terrorism is alive and real and that we REALLY do need to keep spending money on FBI, TSA etc. I am not saying these guys are innocent just questioning if you like the system and how it dealt with the situation. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #29 December 9, 2010 >BUT I am tempered by the realisation that a lonely misguided young >person bragging on the internet might need therapy more than arrest. God knows we have enough of em here . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 December 9, 2010 Quote Quote How come everyone on the internet has a big dick? I want it known that I do not have a big dick Wendy P. There are stores where you can buy one as large as you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #31 December 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt appears to me.... - Lots of public hammering on homeland security (HS) of all flavors as of late. - HS job security and the politics behind it are being threatened. - Powers that be generate special "events" to indicate they are doing a bang-up job "protecting" us. "Look at me! You need me!" Is J. Edgar still alive? Maybe not, but his legacy lives on. +1 I wonder if they put any of that great conservative, J Edgars dresses on display at the FBI Buildiong in Washington DC So your thinking the Feds going under cover to catch these people before they can buy real explosives is Bad? If they are covert ops.... keep it covert ... Currently these incidents are being "produced" for media attention to be used as a propoganda tool to keep the fear in the eyes of the masses and a false tool to quel the fear in the masses that is stirred up by the fear mongers. Ya just cain't hav it bote wayz. I have no agruement there, the Feds have been doing the same thing to Bike clubs for years...They find a weak member, and offer him the chance to make easy money....then take down the whole club over his fuck up! So yep...you are very likely correct...Creating criminals, for headlines! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #32 December 10, 2010 >They find a weak member, and offer him the chance to make easy >money....then take down the whole club over his fuck up! >So yep...you are very likely correct...Creating criminals, for headlines! I think such criminals do a find job of creating themselves: ================================ SoCal biker gang members convicted in killing The Associated Press Posted: 12/09/2010 06:58:05 AM PST Updated: 12/09/2010 06:58:06 AM PST FONTANA, Calif.—Two members of a California motorcycle gang have been convicted of the beating and shooting death of a Vagos club prospect over the sale of a motorcycle. Jurors on Tuesday found 47-year-old Keith Allen Silva and 35-year-old David Anthony Beltran guilty of first-degree murder and torture for the death of 34-year-old Dennis Daoussis in April 2003. Prosecutors say Daoussis was beaten at a Fontana home, bound with zip ties and duct tape, then dumped in the Mojave Desert. He was shot in the head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #33 December 10, 2010 Quote >They find a weak member, and offer him the chance to make easy >money....then take down the whole club over his fuck up! >So yep...you are very likely correct...Creating criminals, for headlines! I think such criminals do a find job of creating themselves: ================================ SoCal biker gang members convicted in killing The Associated Press Posted: 12/09/2010 06:58:05 AM PST Updated: 12/09/2010 06:58:06 AM PST FONTANA, Calif.—Two members of a California motorcycle gang have been convicted of the beating and shooting death of a Vagos club prospect over the sale of a motorcycle. Jurors on Tuesday found 47-year-old Keith Allen Silva and 35-year-old David Anthony Beltran guilty of first-degree murder and torture for the death of 34-year-old Dennis Daoussis in April 2003. Prosecutors say Daoussis was beaten at a Fontana home, bound with zip ties and duct tape, then dumped in the Mojave Desert. He was shot in the head. Your Point? That was "two members" so ya think they whole club should go down for thier ignorance?Plus that is not one of the many cases of the fed "infiltrating" a club, then offering them drug/gun/bike deals , just to suck in the weak......That is a straight up case of assholes being assholes! I know many patch holders that break the law on a regular basis, but they don't do it in the name of the club, they do it, because they are that kind of person! I Also know many, that just like me, ride as a lifestyle, and raise their families! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #34 December 10, 2010 QuoteI Also know many, that just like me, ride as a lifestyle, and raise their families! If only this was applicable to Muslims. Oh, wait... Never mind....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #35 December 10, 2010 >That was "two members" so ya think they whole club should go >down for thier ignorance? I'll use some examples from your own posts to answer that: "There are many bikers in Socal, not one has ever spoke out against it . . ." "Silent bikers are every bit as guilty as the silent Catholics that did not speak out against those crimes! If there is such a thing as Peaceful bikers, they should be protesting....and Loudly!" (I did change a word in those sentences; you can probably pick out which one.) In the past you've had no problem blaming every person in a group for the actions of the extremists in that group. You have claimed that unless you heard them protesting, they were actually supporting the actions of the criminals. You've said that unless they fix their own problems they deserve to be viewed with suspicion. Might those attitudes be changing? If so, good for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #36 December 10, 2010 Quote >That was "two members" so ya think they whole club should go >down for thier ignorance? I'll use some examples from your own posts to answer that: "There are many bikers in Socal, not one has ever spoke out against it . . ." "Silent bikers are every bit as guilty as the silent Catholics that did not speak out against those crimes! If there is such a thing as Peaceful bikers, they should be protesting....and Loudly!" (I did change a word in those sentences; you can probably pick out which one.) In the past you've had no problem blaming every person in a group for the actions of the extremists in that group. You have claimed that unless you heard them protesting, they were actually supporting the actions of the criminals. You've said that unless they fix their own problems they deserve to be viewed with suspicion. Might those attitudes be changing? If so, good for you! i'ev seen many a shit kicking, of a member being stupid, Just because "you" didn't hear them speak out, doesn;t mean a damn thing...Fuck ups are delt with....Plus...do a fuckin search..I have Muslim friends, So far though...Not a single one of them speaks out against what is happening in the"name of Islam", They only speak out against being grouped with the others.... I can NOT, get any of them to talk against what is happening in teh namwe of Islam , yet, In my heart, I believe they are good people! I'l speak out about the bad shit someikers do all fuckin day...they fuck up my world...A LOT.....You'd neve rcatch me on a day I wont talk down about their Bullshit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #37 December 10, 2010 >Just because "you" didn't hear them speak out, doesn;t mean a damn thing. Ding ding ding! You got it! >Not a single one of them speaks out against what is happening >in the"name of Islam", Just because you haven't heard Muslims speak out against terrorism doesn't mean a damn thing either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #38 December 11, 2010 Quotei'ev seen many a shit kicking, of a member being stupid, Just because "you" didn't hear them speak out, doesn;t mean a damn thing...Fuck ups are delt with.... Plus...do a fuckin search..I have Muslim friends, So far though...Not a single one of them speaks out against what is happening in the"name of Islam", They only speak out against being grouped with the others.... I can NOT, get any of them to talk against what is happening in teh namwe of Islam , yet, In my heart, I believe they are good people! I'l speak out about the bad shit someikers do all fuckin day...they fuck up my world...A LOT.....You'd neve rcatch me on a day I wont talk down about their Bullshit! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1lVSWaafec Shut up!!! You talk too much... You talk too much... You talk too much... You talk too much... Hey! You over there, I know about your kind You're like the Independent Network News on Channel 9 Everywhere that you go, no matter where you at I said you talk about this, and you talk about that When the cat took your tongue, I say you took it right back Your mouth is so big, one bite would kill a Big Mac You talk too much You never shut up I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up You talk about people, you don't even know And you talk about places, you NEVER go You talk about your girl, from head to toe I said your mouth's moving fast, and your brain's moving slow You talk too much You never shut up!! I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up You're the instigator, the orator of the town You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap You talk too much You never shut, up!! I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! Talking is the one thing, that you can do best You told the cavity creeps, to watch out for Crest You never have the story, right and exact And then you always try to bore me, with your yakkity yak You talk too much And then you never shut up I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! Everyday you are out fighting someone in the street And you're always fighting someone you know ya can't beat Then you wonder how, you got in this mess Just think of what you said, then take a guess You talk too much You never shut up! I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! You're always spreading rumors, whether bad or good You're the damn Walter Cronkite of the neighborhood The Barbara Walters, and the Howard Cosell You always come around, with a story to tell You talk too much And then you never shut up I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! Said it's everybody's business that you love to mind And talkin to you, is like dropping a dime You're spreading the word, like it is your job You should be a stool pigeon, who works for the mob You talk too much And you never shut up I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up! A big blabbermouth, that's what you are If you were a talk show host, you'd be a star I said your mouth is big, size extra large And when you open it, it's like my garage You talk too much And then you never shut up I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up You always like to gossip, just like a girl You talk so damn much, it's outta this world When you're reincarnated, in your second life You won't be a man, you'll be a nagging wife You talk too much Then you never shut up He said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP!!! Twenty-five hours, eight days a week Thirteen months outta year, is when you speak I'm tired of listening to the garbage you talk Why don't you find a short pier, and take a long walk You talk too much Then you never shut up! I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!! You talk too much You could be, out of breath You talk too much Man you naggin me to death You talk too much Tired of hearing you speak You talk too much Eight days a week You talk too much Then you never shut up I said you talk too much Why don't you ever SHUT UP!!! You talk too much Then you never shut up! I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #39 December 11, 2010 WTF was all that Babble ??/ My mis spellings made more sense that that bullshit!(Not Bill's post , Coreecs's) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #40 December 11, 2010 Quote WTF was all that Babble ?? hahaha ...wow...how hard is it to comprehend that you talk too much? Later bro...goin jumpin' ...see ya if I make it back....it's been awile! My Friend of Misery SanitariumYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #41 December 11, 2010 Quote I want it known that I do not have a big dick Wendy P. In grand SC fashion... You made the claim...now YOU prove it. (Pictures are worth a thousand words.) Yeah, yeah...I'm not holding my breath. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #42 December 11, 2010 Quote>BUT I am tempered by the realisation that a lonely misguided young >person bragging on the internet might need therapy more than arrest. God knows we have enough of em here . . . whachootalkinbout, Billis?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #43 December 11, 2010 So many of these idiots are 'recent converts' its really begining to get on my tits.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #44 December 11, 2010 QuoteSo many of these idiots are 'recent converts' its really begining to get on my tits. Much like people that join a cult, (no I am NOT calling Islam a cult) They are desperate and looking for a purpose.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #45 December 12, 2010 QuoteWTF was all that Babble ??/ My mis spellings made more sense that that bullshit!(Not Bill's post , Coreecs's) +1When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #46 December 12, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo many of these idiots are 'recent converts' its really begining to get on my tits. Much like people that join a cult, (no I am NOT calling Islam a cult) They are desperate and looking for a purpose.... I agree with you. Unfortunately they're easy meat for the twisted evil recruiters of AQ and their ilk.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
