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Some one hasn't been reading his book. I, being agnostic, even knew this one
1 Corinthians 16:2
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/16-2.htm
Best die with check book in hand, right? Hell, come to think of it, maybe God has kept up with technology and can just deduct it from your bank account using his Ipod! God does does have an Ipod, doesn't he?
1 Corinthians 16:2
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/16-2.htm
Best die with check book in hand, right? Hell, come to think of it, maybe God has kept up with technology and can just deduct it from your bank account using his Ipod! God does does have an Ipod, doesn't he?
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
dmcoco84 5
QuoteQuoteQuoteOrganized religion isn't about religion or faith, it's just a political control organization like any other with a proven technique
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Why do you disagree with his statement? I think it is a pretty accurate description.
Nope... I surely meant, Minus One.
Religion is very important. God is more important, but religion is important too... and the Founders talked about this often. Franklin's words are my favorite!
Religion is a good thing... yes, there has been perversions of and within religious institutions; everyone knows of the child molesters... and there has been Corruption, Thievery and Fraud... not only in our nation, but all nations throughout time.
But... that’s not moral and virtuous behavior. That’s not true religion.
I am not religious... I do believe in God.
If someone practices a religion that instills in them morals and values... teaches them to be good to others, to be honorable... to tell the truth... to help others, but not make them comfortable in their poverty, help them get out of poverty through their own perseverance...
And to worship God, as seen fit... as long as you are not infringing on another person's rights to freedom of religion, nor their many other unalienable rights given to them from God.
Than that religion, is good... whatever religion it may be.
God is God... how we interpret God, and how we worship God, will be different...
But if your God is telling you to kill others who don't share your same interpretation of God, who are not infringing on your freedoms... well, come after me, and I’ll kill you, before you kill me.
I will protect my nation and my constitution... from enemies foreign, and domestic.
Actually, religion should be involved in politics... moral and virtuous people who stand up for and with the DOI and the Constitution... will be lead in the same direction, to the same ends... Maximum Freedom.
(Don't even bring up Separation of Church and State here... because you will eat your words later... when I write about "the Religion of America." -- I will after NREMTP exams)
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Coreece 190
QuoteShow me the money? Mate, you'll need to show me Fort fuckin' Knox.
If you can't see God in the beauty and organiztion of life...then I'm afraid it won't matter how much gold I show you...
Luke 16:31
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'"
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
Coreece 190
QuoteSome one hasn't been reading his book.
You're right...I haven't been reading...and couldn't you tell? My language and demeanor in these forums has been atrocious...Without out God I can't evolve...it is impossible. Without out God I become like the world...and it is a miserable exsistence eventhough I can have practically anything that I want...
QuoteI, being agnostic, even knew this one
1 Corinthians 16:2
Well you may have heard of it, but you don't understand it, nor have you partaken in it's blessing...or maybe you have, and just don't know it.
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
dmcoco84 5
QuoteQuoteShow me the money? Mate, you'll need to show me Fort fuckin' Knox.
If you can't see God in the beauty and organiztion of life...then I'm afraid it won't matter how much gold I show you...
Luke 16:31
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'"
Quoting bible passages to an atheist, is no more productive than banging your head against a wall...
Coreece 190
QuoteQuoteQuoteShow me the money? Mate, you'll need to show me Fort fuckin' Knox.
If you can't see God in the beauty and organiztion of life...then I'm afraid it won't matter how much gold I show you...
Luke 16:31
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'"
Quoting bible passages to an atheist, is no more productive than banging your head against a wall...
...but the relevance is priceless.
besides...Jack firmly understands my belief in grace through faith and faith by hearing the word of God.
...but back to your earlier post...can you explain your problem with the seperation of church and state?
To me, it is clear that history has taught us that government cannot be trusted with the Word of God...or for that matter, anything...especially if they don't believe...hell, christains can't even trust other christians these days...
Theocracy does not work...and I don't want the government meddling in my faith.
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
QuoteActually, religion should be involved in politics... moral and virtuous people who stand up for and with the DOI and the Constitution... will be lead in the same direction, to the same ends... Maximum Freedom.
Been tried, already. Yup, those Crusades worked out just fine.
As for those "moral and virtuous people", a little Google magic will produce a long list of "moral and virtuous" people.
Religious leaders are nothing more than politicians with a better cover story. Better at herding the sheeple. Who is another to tell others that they will follow ones perception of morality? Sounds too much like Orwell's vision of 1984.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
mnealtx 0
QuoteWho is another to tell others that they will follow ones perception of morality? Sounds too much like Orwell's vision of 1984.
That blade cuts both ways - look at the pro-Obamacare arguments.
Mike
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RonD1120 62
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Quoting bible passages to an atheist, is no more productive than banging your head against a wall...
...but the relevance is priceless.
I realize the first part is not your words and, I agree with your comment.
I have come to believe that when we all stand before Jesus Christ in all His glory truth will be undeniable. He won't read off our list of rights and wrongs. He will not have to.
We will see every opportunity we were presented with the Word of God, received the unction from the Holy Spirit to accept Him and we will know that we willfully rejected Him.
Jesus will not not condemn us to eternal death. We will turn and walk into the abyss of hopelessness because we will know that is all we deserve.
Those who have accepted Jesus Christ by faith will realize the full impact of His truth. We will walk into eternal life because we fought the good fight of faith.
Yes, Scripture reference to an atheist falls on deaf ears. However, it will be evidence at the final judgment. Therefore, it is indeed relevant.
God is not fair; He is just.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
jakee 1,594
QuoteNope, it is in fact pretty much the exact opposite. In one case, we're simply imagining that things we know an awful lot about, physics and chemistry, continue to work in distant solar systems the same way that they do here.
In the other, you're imagining that something completely different and seperate to anything that ayone has ever observed, exists.
Or, the other obvious conclusion is that science still has a lot of data to collect before it can declare definitively what exists or doesn't exist.
Sounds fine, until we see that your subtext reads "and in the mean time let's just make shit up".
If there's no quack, no bill, no feathers and no webbed feet, there's probably no duck.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
Meso 38
No way dude!
All that means is that we haven't yet found the bill, webbed feet and feathers and we haven't yet heard the quack!! Have faith!! Because I heard from this one guy who heard from this other guy, who's family told him... That there is a duck... So fuck logic, logic is for heathens- there is a God damn duck!
All that means is that we haven't yet found the bill, webbed feet and feathers and we haven't yet heard the quack!! Have faith!! Because I heard from this one guy who heard from this other guy, who's family told him... That there is a duck... So fuck logic, logic is for heathens- there is a God damn duck!
winsor 236
Quote>They just found one.
I don't know if an organism that uses DNA and normal cellular respiration, just uses a different atom in one molecule, can really be called "other life." It's different and very interesting, certainly, but hardly a new form of life.
Here we have yet again irrefutable proof of Baal's wonders, and you downplay it. Sheesh.
What, you are going to suggest that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created this just by the touch of his Noodly Appendage? I think the FSM has been getting all too much credit these days, that's what I think.
maadmax 0
Sounds fine, until we see that your subtext reads "and in the mean time let's just make shit up".
If there's no quack, no bill, no feathers and no webbed feet, there's probably no duck.
If there's no quack, no bill, no feathers and no webbed feet, there's probably no duck.
And so say the blind and deaf to the wondrous world that surrounds them. We truly meet our destiny when we truly meet God.
pirana 0
QuoteGod hate F*GS...
Why does God hate figs? Blood sugar issues?
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
dmcoco84 5
QuoteCan you explain your problem with the seperation of church and state?
I don’t have any problem with it... the problem is, that nowhere on this forum have I seen someone accurately explain what Jefferson was speaking about, in the one and only time he used the term.
I have read so much, and have done so much research in these last three years...
Its just as I spoke of in another thread with, the Pursuit of Happiness. There are two meanings, and not one person could give me the second. If you have read about the Founders, if you have read original sources and not been corrupted by revisionist history... its SO easy, and such a simple answer. But no one gave me that answer.
By no means do I think anyone is stupid... not long ago, I didn’t know either, and that angers me!
You have said some good things... but you are still off from what he was talking about. And without the other things I will need to include in posting, it’s not worth it for me to go into it any farther. If you want to know what I have said to date, refer to my posts.
You can debate God, without talking about, “SOCAS...”
I’m not going into it in this thread.
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As for quoting Bible passages to atheists...
It’s like putting mandarin in from of someone who doesn’t speak it... pointless.
If it were the first time someone had ever heard of God, and you started with the bible, ok... Fine!
But if someone is defiant to and secure in his or her feelings of, there is no God... well, you are definitely not going to change someone’s view points by talking about a religions scriptures or specific prophet... like Jesus. You need to first talk about... God.
There IS a difference! Reading is Fundamental!
I can have God, without Jesus. That may be how you interpret God... but not me.
And I'm sure you will feel the need to hit me back with, Jesus is God in the form of man... but he is the son of God too, and the ghost. Please don't... I know.
I'm sorry, but I’m like Franklin; to this day I question the Divinity of Jesus. It doesn't make sense to me...
And Franklin was not a man whore out having sex with tons of woman, as revisionist historians like to claim so that they can separate you from the words of the Founders.
I will post about, "the Religion of America" as soon I can... its gonna be a loooong post.
dmcoco84 5
QuoteBeen tried, already. Yup, those Crusades worked out just fine.
Such an empty comment... “shrug”
QuoteAs for those "moral and virtuous people", a little Google magic will produce a long list of "moral and virtuous" people.
No, not really... first 4 links:
Moral and Virtuous People Don't Need God Or Mindless Religion ...
May 21, 2010 ... Most of today's Hinduism consists of mindless rituals and traditions, which have absolutely no relevance to the modern times.
nirmukta.com/.../moral-and-virtuous-people-don’t-need-god-or-mindless-religion/
American Ideological Society - Are we moral and virtuous people?
"Only a moral and virtuous people are capable of freedom; the more corrupt and vicious a society becomes, the more it has need of masters. ...
www.americanideologicalsociety.com/ais/modules.php?name...
Religious Freedom for a Virtuous People | RVOS 2010 Essay Contest
“A virtuous people are capable of freedom” because they submit to a higher moral law first; “nations become corrupt” when their citizens look to their own ...
www.rvos.com/essay/2124ad
The Second Principle – We must remain virtuous and morally strong ...
This Constitution was designed to support and serve a moral and virtuous people, and only such a people, as the majority, can anticipate that it will endure ...
www.thepowerofbeing.net/the...–-we...virtuous...morally.../america/
Moral and Virtuous Man - Jon Huntsman, founder Huntsman Corporation
QuoteReligious leaders are nothing more than politicians with a better cover story. Better at herding the sheeple. Who is another to tell others that they will follow ones perception of morality? Sounds too much like Orwell's vision of 1984.
I’ll agree with you on that if we are talking about men like Jeremiah Wright... who is teach not Christianity, but Liberation Theology... who had those words on his own website.
Again... not arguing for Christianity... not arguing against it... I’m not a Christian.
But, Liberation Theology... is a perversion of Christianity.
turtlespeed 226
QuoteNo way dude!
All that means is that we haven't yet found the bill, webbed feet and feathers and we haven't yet heard the quack!! Have faith!! Because I heard from this one guy who heard from this other guy, who's family told him... That there is a duck... So fuck logic, logic is for heathens- there is a God damn duck!
My question is: Why does a belief in a god anger you so much?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
AndyBoyd 0
NASA's report may not be good science.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101208/sc_yblog_thelookout/scientists-poking-holes-in-nasas-arsenic-eating-microbe-discovery
I take no position on the scientific or religious arguments made in this thread.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101208/sc_yblog_thelookout/scientists-poking-holes-in-nasas-arsenic-eating-microbe-discovery
I take no position on the scientific or religious arguments made in this thread.
We have already discussed this in the other thread.
You are speaking about an event occurrence post initial singularity... you are kicking a dead horse.
Just don't hump it like Tom Green, ok?
Giggity!
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