Yes. Those Scary Brown People Again

[skyrider 0]

I'm not sure if I believe this news clip, but talk about a Lack of training!
http://www.deadseriousnews.com/?p=676

[wmw999 2,588]

An 87-year-old who suffered a mosh pit injury requiring a colostomy????

Dang, I gotta see the video

Other headlines: "Dateless fat chick goes to NHL playoff game instead of prom," "Kosher deli sells out of Hanukkah hams " and "Hotel chain to introduce sex-free rooms."

Methinks it's satire.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Would not be aceptable if the group was white Christians would it

Last I checked every thing was set up Unequally for white Christian men at the start. That’s why I got Xmass off from school, that’s why I celebrated all the American holidays, that’s why every thing in this country is the way it is. Not complaining here just stating fact.

It was all originally set up for white Christian men. Then they gave woman the right to vote, then they got rid of segregation, then we had labor laws that gave us the 40 hr week, over time etc etc .


If Christian woman were overly worried about there decency and it was a big part of their culture we would not be having this conversation cause that would be your norm.

I don’t think it’s a bad thing if a school offers the Jewish kid fish instead of pork. I think its just respectful even if he didn't go to that school before and all the kids used to be white and Christian.

Why is that’s o hard to understand.

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This tread is about special treatment based on race/religion

You can try to over simplify something to fit a narrow view but your missing the point. We make concussions all the time to make other peoples lives easier and to respect who they are.
You have more Muslims now then ever in this country and we have a different culture. Muslim woman (most of them) do not want to be touched by a strange man. Not as oh I would rather not have that done but it is a big part of who they are, that’s not the case in this culture.

Different things have different levels of effect on different cultures.

Also the Koran is considered Holy by Muslims a none clean hand that’s literally a hand that has not been washed should not touch it.

Now in this culture where every one just wipes there ass you might not think it’s a big deal, but in Islam where everyone washes there ass and feet, and hands, and face 3 or 4 times a day to remain clean it’s a big deal. You have to clean your self before touching the Koran or praying. Its ahuge part of the being a Muslim.

You don't need to understand it but considering it does not effect you in ANY WAY why not learn and respect it? Specily if your job is handelling people at an AIR PORT

Oh also Muslims don’t like shoes in there homes They pray on the ground and don;t want to pray on Dog shit. just another thing that came to me.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[billvon 3,116]

>So, a catholic woman does not deserve privacy when being searched, yet a
>Muslim does?

They both do.

But as I explained above, a topless woman may have different expectations for privacy than a topless man does. Indeed, these are codified in law.

[billvon 3,116]

>Methinks it's satire.

Perhaps.

"Next James Bond film to be set in WikiLeaks bunker"

But wait!

"Republican tax plan includes incentives for puppy mills"

That must be true.

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So, a catholic woman does not deserve privacy when being searched, yet a Muslim does?

Different cultures different beliefs.

Like in Iran alcohol is illegal for all Muslims, but Christians are allowed and welcome to have alcohol and many make there own wine.

Yea that’s called understanding other cultures and respecting them.

Which, of course, is why I can get a beer in downtown Riyadh.

(*yes, I know you said Iran is different*)

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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I'll bet that if a nun in a habit is selected for a search that she'd automatically be offered it in a secluded space. Orthodox jewish women have many of the same coverage issues as many covered muslim women.

Don't make that bet...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Andy9o8 2]

Hey, speaking of nuns, what about vampires? Sure, for short hops they can turn into bats and fly; but for long hauls they use planes. (Blood bank conventions, etc.) Now this is relevant, so stay with me here. Anyhow, when nuns go out in public, even (sometimes especially) if they don't wear habits, what do they always wear? Those enormous crosses! ( Like this. ) Do the vampires get to make the nuns take off their crosses just because they make them burst into flame? No! And why not? Because they don't get to demand special treatment! So neither should Muslims. To me, it's that clear.

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An 87-year-old who suffered a mosh pit injury requiring a colostomy????

Dang, I gotta see the video

Other headlines: "Dateless fat chick goes to NHL playoff game instead of prom," "Kosher deli sells out of Hanukkah hams " and "Hotel chain to introduce sex-free rooms."

Methinks it's satire.

Wendy P.

Damn it, I wanted to see if anyone believed it, you blew it....

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I'll bet that if a nun in a habit is selected for a search that she'd automatically be offered it in a secluded space. Orthodox jewish women have many of the same coverage issues as many covered muslim women.

Don't make that bet...

You can't tell from a photo, she may have been offered a private search and declined.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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"Accept our ways".. "Ignore" them...But the rest of "you" law abidding US citizens, keep taking "your " shoes off, and "you" keep walking threw them scanners, But it is against our way /religion...forget "we" are the poeple blowing up your buildings and planes, Just respect "our " religion and "rights" they matter more than "yours"!

Just so I understand your point, should the TSA not respect anyone's personal feelings/beliefs and try to work within them if possible or is it just the Muslims that they should have no respect for?

As a Muslim I would say that its important that they respect everyones religion and would hope that they also have training days for Judaism and other religions also. Sensitivity training for the disabled would also be a good idea.

Yet they Don't!

if that were true (which it clearly isn't) then your problem would clearly be with the TSA not with Muslims.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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don’t think it’s a bad thing if a school offers the Jewish kid fish instead of pork

If they do offer the Jewish kid fish, the non-Jewish kid who prefers fish should get it to.

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Muslim woman (most of them) do not want to be touched by a strange man. Not as oh I would rather not have that done but it is a big part of who they are, that’s not the case in this culture.

Do you know a lot of women who DO want to be touched by a strange man?

I'm all for better understanding and consideration but if you offer a different "service", to some, it should be available to all.

"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

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Do you know a lot of women who DO want to be touched by a strange man?

I've known a few

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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I'll bet that if a nun in a habit is selected for a search that she'd automatically be offered it in a secluded space. Orthodox jewish women have many of the same coverage issues as many covered muslim women.

Don't make that bet...

You can't tell from a photo, she may have been offered a private search and declined.

She may have, that's true - however, to the best of my knowledge the Church isn't *demanding* private searches.

They also don't have an advocacy group demanding that Muslim women be able to 'self-search' (CAIR).

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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We make concussions all the time to make other peoples lives easier...

I never really have any trouble understanding what you mean, but I have to admit, sometimes the spellcheck train wreck leads to some funny imagery.

[Meso 38]

I find the level of hypocrisy in man never ceases to amaze me.

The same people who were raging about respecting tradition more than anything else a week ago in a certain thread, are the same people here trying to say that traditions and cultures aren't that important after all.

So it's okay to disrespect certain cultures, just as long as no one disrespects yours? Or maybe you just like to draw your own line on when it is okay to disrespect someone's culture.

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I find the level of hypocrisy in man never ceases to amaze me.

The same people who were raging about respecting tradition more than anything else a week ago in a certain thread, are the same people here trying to say that traditions and cultures aren't that important after all.

So it's okay to disrespect certain cultures, just as long as no one disrespects yours? Or maybe you just like to draw your own line on when it is okay to disrespect someone's culture.

Who decides?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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She may have, that's true - however, to the best of my knowledge the Church isn't *demanding* private searches.

They and no one else should have to it should be ffered for all women.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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It shouldn't be a case of deciding. If you want your culture respected, at least have the decency to respect others.

Apparently military tradition is important, but religious tradition is not.

They're both equally as unimportant to me. But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

- If one believes tradition and customs mean something, then it needs to apply across the spectrum, even if you don't understand it.

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It shouldn't be a case of deciding. If you want your culture respected, at least have the decency to respect others.

Apparently military tradition is important, but religious tradition is not.

They're both equally as unimportant to me. But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

- If one believes tradition and customs mean something, then it needs to apply across the spectrum, even if you don't understand it.

Two way street is what you are talking about

Unfortuantly that is NOT what we are seeing
We have a group the claims they need special treatment because of their religion
Cartoons, the treatment of their special book ECT

An now special treatment by the TSA

Screw that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It shouldn't be a case of deciding. If you want your culture respected, at least have the decency to respect others.

Apparently military tradition is important, but religious tradition is not.

They're both equally as unimportant to me. But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

- If one believes tradition and customs mean something, then it needs to apply across the spectrum, even if you don't understand it.

Two way street is what you are talking about

Unfortuantly that is NOT what we are seeing
We have a group the claims they need special treatment because of their religion
Cartoons, the treatment of their special book ECT

An now special treatment by the TSA

Screw that

Marc, why is it that the conservatives in theis county always seem to think that EVERYONE but them is getting special treatment.

Gays wanting to have the same rights as other people is seen by so many as special rights. Sure its not what you yourself think is the norm... but this is a diverse country ... well at least when you manage to get out of corn country at least it is.

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It shouldn't be a case of deciding. If you want your culture respected, at least have the decency to respect others.

Apparently military tradition is important, but religious tradition is not.

They're both equally as unimportant to me. But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

- If one believes tradition and customs mean something, then it needs to apply across the spectrum, even if you don't understand it.

Two way street is what you are talking about

Unfortuantly that is NOT what we are seeing
We have a group the claims they need special treatment because of their religion
Cartoons, the treatment of their special book ECT

An now special treatment by the TSA

Screw that

Marc, why is it that the conservatives in theis county always seem to think that EVERYONE but them is getting special treatment.

Gays wanting to have the same rights as other people is seen by so many as special rights. Sure its not what you yourself think is the norm... but this is a diverse country ... well at least when you manage to get out of corn country at least it is.

You need to get out this way more
If you think there is no diversity out here you are mistaken
Badly mistaken
As for you point
They have the same already
They want special treatment. Period

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

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It shouldn't be a case of deciding. If you want your culture respected, at least have the decency to respect others.

Apparently military tradition is important, but religious tradition is not.

They're both equally as unimportant to me. But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

- If one believes tradition and customs mean something, then it needs to apply across the spectrum, even if you don't understand it.

Two way street is what you are talking about

Unfortuantly that is NOT what we are seeing
We have a group the claims they need special treatment because of their religion
Cartoons, the treatment of their special book ECT

An now special treatment by the TSA

Screw that

Marc, why is it that the conservatives in theis county always seem to think that EVERYONE but them is getting special treatment.

Gays wanting to have the same rights as other people is seen by so many as special rights. Sure its not what you yourself think is the norm... but this is a diverse country ... well at least when you manage to get out of corn country at least it is.

You need to get out this way more
If you think there is no diversity out here you are mistaken
Badly mistaken
As for you point
They have the same already
They want special treatment. Period

WOW.. ok I stand corrected since you saw that mexican guy 3 days ago...

It is truly sad that so many conservatives actually believe that gay people or minorities in this country actually have the same rights as other Americans, and are only seeking all those "special rights"

[rushmc 23]

Town I just moved from

http://profiles.nationalrelocation.com/Iowa/Marshalltown/

Town before that

http://profiles.nationalrelocation.com/Iowa/Cedar%20Rapids/

Chicago or other big city ?
No
But much different than your fly over notion of where I live

Oh
You make correcting you very very easy

Thanks

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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But then I don't try tell people to respect mine or my countries beliefs, and then turn around and claim everyone else's isn't worthy of respect.

Really? Perhaps you should go re-read your comments in the hunting thread.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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