skyrider 0 #26 December 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909220037 "he slight outraged Beck, who got his revenge with what may rank as one of the cruelest bits in the history of morning radio. "A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."" GB is a recovering alcoholic and has readily admitted his shortcomings prior to attaining sobriety. The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. What sort of character were you in years past? What have you done to improve your character? Have others told you they notice a difference? What is that difference? Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Stttrrreeeeeeeeeeetttttttcccchhhhhhhhhh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #27 December 6, 2010 >thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted >their crimes Right. But GB isn't saying it's OK to murder _or_ drink to excess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://mediamatters.org/blog/200909220037 "he slight outraged Beck, who got his revenge with what may rank as one of the cruelest bits in the history of morning radio. "A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."" GB is a recovering alcoholic and has readily admitted his shortcomings prior to attaining sobriety. The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. What sort of character were you in years past? What have you done to improve your character? Have others told you they notice a difference? What is that difference? Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Ok You just changed the direction What is his bull shit rhetoric today?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #29 December 6, 2010 Quote The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. I'm sorry? What is Step 1? What is Step 2? That's some pure bullshit you're spreading there pal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps That's not accepting "personal responsibility." That's saying "The devil made me do it." Gets Flip Wilson a laugh, but everybody knows it's pure bullshit.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #30 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuote The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. I'm sorry? What is Step 1? What is Step 2? That's some pure bullshit you're spreading there pal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps That's not accepting "personal responsibility." That's saying "The devil made me do it." Gets Flip Wilson a laugh, but everybody knows it's pure bullshit. I had never read the 12 step program...What a Crock.. nothing but evangelism, ut , I guess whatever works for some,,, THE TWELVE STEPS OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS Quote1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. 7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #31 December 6, 2010 Quotebeck is a "serious" news reporter now who is listened to by a bunch of morons I think this might be some of your problem. He is NOT a serious reporter. He is an entertainer. QuoteJust because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today You've abviously been listening to him. Does that make you a moron? And his 'bullshit rhetoric' is no different than Olbermann's or Limbaugh's. You don't like him so it upsets you to listen. I had a friend named Dick who had that same problem. Don't be a Dick.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. I'm sorry? What is Step 1? What is Step 2? That's some pure bullshit you're spreading there pal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps That's not accepting "personal responsibility." That's saying "The devil made me do it." Gets Flip Wilson a laugh, but everybody knows it's pure bullshit. I had never read the 12 step program...What a Crock.. nothing but evangelism, ut , I guess whatever works for some,,, THE TWELVE STEPS OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS Quote1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. 7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Hmmm Step 5 seems to be the one you posted about?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 December 6, 2010 Quote Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Several Million of us do not think his rhetoric is bullshit.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #34 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuote The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. I'm sorry? What is Step 1? What is Step 2? That's some pure bullshit you're spreading there pal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps That's not accepting "personal responsibility." That's saying "The devil made me do it." Gets Flip Wilson a laugh, but everybody knows it's pure bullshit. You do not know or understand one iota of the 12 Step program, the process of recovery or, the disease concept of addiction.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote The 12 Step program is focused on recognizing and removing defects of character. Points to ponder for those who accept personal responsibility instead of blaming others. I'm sorry? What is Step 1? What is Step 2? That's some pure bullshit you're spreading there pal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps That's not accepting "personal responsibility." That's saying "The devil made me do it." Gets Flip Wilson a laugh, but everybody knows it's pure bullshit. You do not know or understand one iota of the 12 Step program, the process of recovery or, the disease concept of addiction. Which is it then; a disease or something fixable by a "higher power"?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #36 December 6, 2010 Quote Quote Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Several Million of us do not think his rhetoric is bullshit. next time i here of someone having a miscarriage i'll give you their number Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 December 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Several Million of us do not think his rhetoric is bullshit. next time i here of someone having a miscarriage i'll give you their number So, now you go back 25 some odd years cause you cant handle the question? Sweet"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #38 December 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Just because he admits his short commings in the past it doesn't change a damn thing about his bullshit rhetoric today. thats like a murder saying its ok to murder because they've admitted their crimes Several Million of us do not think his rhetoric is bullshit. next time i here of someone having a miscarriage i'll give you their number So, now you go back 25 some odd years cause you cant handle the question? Sweet where was the question? Quote Several Million of us do not think his rhetoric is bullshit. don't see it....Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #39 December 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteI'll bet you're a Howard Stern fan huh? WHere's the outrage from some of the stuff he did that makes this look like childsplay? What were you doing 25 years ago? FAIL no sir beck failed and you failed, i've never listened to stern. Your argument is is pointless, beck is a "serious" news reporter now who is listened to by a bunch of morons. he catapulted himself to fame by giving low blows to his competitors as in this case were he called his competitor's wife and mocked her miscarriage. You apparently haven't listened to Beck, either. He is not a "news reporter" as you call him. He is a commentator and entertainer. By the way, Beck admits to being a first-class A-hole back when he was a drinker. I doubt any of the stuff listed in that blog are going on today.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 December 7, 2010 Quote Which is it then; a disease or something fixable by a "higher power"? An ignorant question rooted in sarcasm is not worthy of the dignification of a serious response.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #41 December 7, 2010 Quote Quote Which is it then; a disease or something fixable by a "higher power"? An ignorant question rooted in sarcasm is not worthy of the dignification of a serious response. When libs have lost a debate that is what they do to save face"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #42 December 7, 2010 QuoteQuote Which is it then; a disease or something fixable by a "higher power"? An ignorant question rooted in sarcasm is not worthy of the dignification of a serious response. No, Ron. It's asking for clarification because you've contradicted yourself several times just within this thread. If something is your personal responsibility, it's just that and not attributable to a "higher power." If something is a disease, then it's not something giving yourself over to a "higher power" or faith healing will fix.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #43 December 7, 2010 At lest, do a little reading on the subject.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #44 December 12, 2010 While a dick move..... It was also 25 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #45 December 13, 2010 QuoteWhile a dick move..... It was also 25 years ago. so that makes it ok?Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #46 December 13, 2010 Quoteso that makes it ok? Missed this part did ya? "While a dick move" So I never said it was OK. 25 years is quite a lot of digging to find something to bitch about. I don't like the guy, but I am not going to dig 25 years back to bitch about him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #47 December 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteso that makes it ok? Missed this part did ya? "While a dick move" So I never said it was OK. 25 years is quite a lot of digging to find something to bitch about. I don't like the guy, but I am not going to dig 25 years back to bitch about him. oh ok i see your point, lets just go and release all the convicted murders from prison that were sentenced 25 years ago because that was a long time ago.Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #48 December 13, 2010 Not even an intelligent attempt at a good example. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #49 December 13, 2010 Quote Not even an intelligent attempt at a good example. Matt and how was the poster's example above me different? and for that matter your reply? You had no example, just criticism.... Not even an intelligent attempt at a worthwhile reply PetersonLook out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #50 December 14, 2010 Dude, you must really be starved for attention as you seem to stick your nose in every forum and every thread and say some dumb ass shit. The thread is dumb, it is about an asshat and about a old year old story. No one is giving him a pass, most all here agree he is an Entertainer who lacks morals and makes up or spins all his "News", it has been hashed out. Your OP is stupid, lacks debatable topic and just a childish attempt at "Inclusion". My reply was spot on. You made a poor example, and when called on it, You pulled the typical child's behavior of "I know you are but what am I?" But all of your posts and threads are in that same vain. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites