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From Yahoo News:

"The TSA agreed Friday to let uniformed airline pilots skip the body scans and aggressive pat-downs at the heart of a national uproar. Pilots must pass through a metal detector at airport checkpoints and present photo IDs that prove their identity."




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ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.


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Well... as best I can figure, you are!

;)



If you could show where I've said that, you might have had a point. As it is, you're just stirring shit.


No, I'm not. You say I'm saying I think people are paranoid if they opt out of the body scanner. While you say one should, because of paranoid fears of over construed dangers. Sorry mnealtx, I think you're the one that's paranoid. You know how ludicrous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner because it might be dangerous? You silly. ;)

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Well... as best I can figure, you are!

;)



If you could show where I've said that, you might have had a point. As it is, you're just stirring shit.


No, I'm not. You say I'm saying I think people are paranoid if they opt out of the body scanner. While you say one should, because of paranoid fears of overconstruded dangers. Sorry mnealtx, I think you're the one that's paranoid. You know how ludirous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner because it might be dangerous? You silly. ;)


Show where I've said nobody should go through the scanners, then.
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>You know how ludirous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of
>airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner
>because it might be dangerous?

I jump out of airplanes but I don't smoke! I also don't do drugs, and I don't get in a car if a drunk guy is going to be driving. Think I'm "ludirous" too?

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>You know how ludirous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of
>airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner
>because it might be dangerous?

I jump out of airplanes but I don't smoke! I also don't do drugs, and I don't get in a car if a drunk guy is going to be driving. Think I'm "ludicrous" too?



Ooops, I forgot to hit spell check before hitting post reply. License for Bill to make fun of me. :D

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Give me a break. You post a link saying its 10x more dangerous to go through a body scanner then the what the TSA says and then you say you weren't saying to not go through them. Give me a break. :S



Actually, the radiation hazard has been mentioned a few times in thread before my post - reading is fundamental.
Mike
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Yes, I've seen that. As I'm sure you're aware you're getting a certain amount of millirads (or less) off of the computer screen you're typing in front of. You can take precautions with a simple piece of aluminium foil shaped into a hat... but I'm sure you knew that.



Ah, so your earlier 'protest' was yet another lie. At least you admit it.
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>You know how ludirous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of
>airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner
>because it might be dangerous?

I jump out of airplanes but I don't smoke! I also don't do drugs, and I don't get in a car if a drunk guy is going to be driving. Think I'm "ludicrous" too?



Ooops, I forgot to hit spell check before hitting post reply. License for Bill to make fun of me. :D


Looks like you missed the main point Bill made, then. It *wasn't* about the spelling.

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>You know how ludicrous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of
>airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner
>because it might be dangerous?

I jump out of airplanes but I don't smoke! I also don't do drugs, and I don't get in a car if a drunk guy is going to be driving. Think I'm "ludicrous" too?



Ooops, I forgot to hit spell check before hitting post reply. License for Bill to make fun of me. :D


Looks like you missed the main point Bill made, then. It *wasn't* about the spelling.



Nope I caught that! ;) See I'm not as ignorant as y'all accuse me of being.

What I do think...

Let me summarize what I’ve hearing from y’all…Bill, DSE, mnealtx, Diablo, kelp, etc.

1) Bill is afraid that pseudo pictures of his junk after having gone through a body scanner may show up on the Internet because some images have been leaked in the past, thus, trash these evil machines and not a word about what or how to punish those who do leak images in the future or hire folks who won’t.

2) DSE is all wrapped in the flag that body scanners are the worst affront to liberty in this country since, well, I don’t know what. I’m with you DSE that there are a lot of affronts to liberty going on in this country, but can we pick a battle cry that’s different then, “Dude, don’t scan my junk!”

3) The crowd here seems to say better training for TSA agents and better use of existing technology is the ticket. Not a bad idea, but not a peep about how this miracle is to happen?

4) I think y’all would rather make fun of the TSA staff then actually consider the evolving threat and how to counter it. Fair enough. Some good jokes and pics to be posted soon, I'm sure.

5) Okay… so if y’all want the body scanners to go away, what do y’all propose we do… that doesn't involve being an asshat that opts for the pat-down, then flicks the TSA agent administering the task shit and getting all pissy afterwards about being felt-up and how degrading it was... DSE withstanding, I'd really like to hear how that goes for y'all.

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>You know how ludicrous it sounds coming from someone who jumps out of
>airplanes for fun that they don't want to go through a body scanner
>because it might be dangerous?

I jump out of airplanes but I don't smoke! I also don't do drugs, and I don't get in a car if a drunk guy is going to be driving. Think I'm "ludicrous" too?



Ooops, I forgot to hit spell check before hitting post reply. License for Bill to make fun of me. :D


Looks like you missed the main point Bill made, then. It *wasn't* about the spelling.



Nope I caught that! ;) See I'm not as ignorant as y'all accuse me of being.

What I do think...

Let me summarize what I’ve hearing from y’all…Bill, DSE, mnealtx, Diablo, kelp, etc.

1) Bill is afraid that pseudo pictures of his junk after having gone through a body scanner may show up on the Internet because some images have been leaked in the past, thus, trash these evil machines and not a word about what or how to punish those who do leak images in the future or hire folks who won’t.

2) DSE is all wrapped in the flag that body scanners are the worst affront to liberty in this country since, well, I don’t know what. I’m with you DSE that there are a lot of affronts to liberty going on in this country, but can we pick a battle cry that’s different then, “Dude, don’t scan my junk!”

3) The crowd here seems to say better training for TSA agents and better use of existing technology is the ticket. Not a bad idea, but not a peep about how this miracle is to happen?

4) I think y’all would rather make fun of the TSA staff then actually consider the evolving threat and how to counter it. Fair enough. Some good jokes and pics to be posted soon, I'm sure.

5) Okay… so if y’all want the body scanners to go away, what do y’all propose we do… that doesn't involve being an asshat that opts for the pat-down, then flicks the TSA agent administering the task shit and getting all pissy afterwards about being felt-up and how degrading it was... DSE withstanding, I'd really like to hear how that goes for y'all.


TECHNOLOGY

A hardened chamber that each person would have to enter... a very heavy door encloses you ( with logo above the door " Enter here for 72 virgins) with blow out panels in a direction where no one but a shoe or panty bomber or anyone with surgically implanted explosives would explode. Bombard them with whatever frequency would set off any kind of explosive.

This shit should be this easy Engineers.. get on it:)

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2) DSE is all wrapped in the flag that body scanners are the worst affront to liberty in this country since, well, I don’t know what. I’m with you DSE that there are a lot of affronts to liberty going on in this country, but can we pick a battle cry that’s different then, “Dude, don’t scan my junk!”



Where did I say that?

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>1) Bill is afraid that pseudo pictures of his junk after having gone through
>a body scanner may show up on the Internet . . .

Nope, you're still missing the point.

>3) The crowd here seems to say better training for TSA agents and better
>use of existing technology is the ticket. Not a bad idea, but not a peep
>about how this miracle is to happen?

Well, perhaps we could accomplish the goal of better training by implementing better training programs. For example, a course in training people how to recognize boxcutters, IED's and compressed gases/contained liquids via transmissive X-ray scanners might work wonders to stop terrorists with boxcutters and IED's in their carryon bags.

>4) I think y’all would rather make fun of the TSA staff then actually
>consider the evolving threat and how to counter it.

The threat did evolve. We did counter it. Ask yourself how many successful hijackings in the US there have been since 9/11 - all without backscatter imagers.

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Again, I don't see opposition to body scanners as a tool vs. the increased threat with no other tangible soloution, but rather deflection of the issue by throwing up the possibility of misuse of images as a relevant argument.



I've tried to address this in my previous posts but to state it more directly, it's the converse of the old adage about only having a hammer in your tool belt. When you think your job is just about pounding nails, it doesn't matter how many tools you have in your belt (hammers, tire irons, torque wrenches, measuring tape) because all you ever do is clench them in your fist and start whacking away with them.

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From Yahoo News:

"The TSA agreed Friday to let uniformed airline pilots skip the body scans and aggressive pat-downs at the heart of a national uproar. Pilots must pass through a metal detector at airport checkpoints and present photo IDs that prove their identity."




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ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.



And so the next attack is done by a person impersonating a pilot[:/].

The system is broken and it needs to be fixed or slowly the world will return to a state where countries are isolated and the barriers go up again. A tipping point will be reached where airport security will make the average person question whether that vacation or business trip is really worth the hassle.
Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

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The system is broken and it needs to be fixed or slowly the world will return to a state where countries are isolated and the barriers go up again.



Well, seperation of church and state seem to be working quite well...maybe segregation is actually a good thing.

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tipping point will be reached where airport security will make the average person question whether that vacation or business trip is really worth the hassle.



Ya right...I'll take a hand up the crotch and pose nude before I give up my freedoms!;):D
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