rushmc 23 #1 November 21, 2010 huh.... http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/21/suspected-war-criminal-lands-job-united-nations/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #2 November 21, 2010 So, Sri Lanka appoints him to serve in their diplomatic mission, and this makes the United Nations responsible, how? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #3 November 21, 2010 Just goes to show you just how meaningful the UN really is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #4 November 21, 2010 Thanks. I'll be sure to mention that to the families of the deceased Canadian soldiers serving under the UN ISAF mandate in Afghanistan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #5 November 21, 2010 Quote huh.... http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/21/suspected-war-criminal-lands-job-united-nations/ My question is how do we do a Human Rights investigation on the UN? Or are they above scrutiny?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #6 November 22, 2010 QuoteThanks. I'll be sure to mention that to the families of the deceased Canadian soldiers serving under the UN ISAF mandate in Afghanistan. While you are talking to them, be sure to mention how there loved ones are now working for mass murdering war criminals. edited to add: So if the Canadian solders follow his orders and murder more innocent civilians, can they get diplomatic immunity too?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #7 November 22, 2010 QuoteThanks. I'll be sure to mention that to the families of the deceased Canadian soldiers serving under the UN ISAF mandate in Afghanistan. While you are talking to them, be sure to mention how there loved ones are now working for mass murdering war criminals. They are not working for Sri Lanka. they work for Canada in support of a UN mandate. QuoteSo if the Canadian solders follow his orders and murder more innocent civilians, can they get diplomatic immunity too? If you have the time, you might wish to read how Canadian civilian courts and our military deals with that type of issue. http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Canadian+soldier+sentenced+battlefield+mercy+killing/3623948/story.html or perhaps, http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5grkOd6AeqBKmIemh5sBvVrHhCOcg?docId=CNG.fa9dcef090528602cc801ded244e1fad.251 or maybe just one more, this one just a bit more distant, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair Can you please explain how somebody serving Sri Lanka and posted to New York causes you to disrespect the entire body of other countries. Shouldn't you direct your contempt to Sri Lanka if you feel that strongly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 November 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteThanks. I'll be sure to mention that to the families of the deceased Canadian soldiers serving under the UN ISAF mandate in Afghanistan. While you are talking to them, be sure to mention how there loved ones are now working for mass murdering war criminals. They are not working for Sri Lanka. they work for Canada in support of a UN mandate. QuoteSo if the Canadian solders follow his orders and murder more innocent civilians, can they get diplomatic immunity too? If you have the time, you might wish to read how Canadian civilian courts and our military deals with that type of issue. http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Canadian+soldier+sentenced+battlefield+mercy+killing/3623948/story.html or perhaps, http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5grkOd6AeqBKmIemh5sBvVrHhCOcg?docId=CNG.fa9dcef090528602cc801ded244e1fad.251 or maybe just one more, this one just a bit more distant, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair Can you please explain how somebody serving Sri Lanka and posted to New York causes you to disrespect the entire body of other countries. Shouldn't you direct your contempt to Sri Lanka if you feel that strongly? This "body" as you call it has a list of issues that would take two people a month just to name. This specific case makes me wonder why they would as a "body" accept this person. Another accomplishment is the UN's use of luxury cruise ships in Haiti. Time for the US to stop funding this "body" and send them packing"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #9 November 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Time for the US to stop funding this "body" and send them packing Of course, it is your national prerogative to reduce or even stop your funding to the UN. You are equally within your rights to quit NATO. You are also within your rights to ignore international conventions of law, trade, and commerce. If you don't want to be part of the UN, elect a government that will stop-payment on your portion of funding, quit, and kick them off your soil. Speaking only for me, I'd be okay with that. The sun will rise tomorrow, and the world will continue on, with or without the participation of your country as a member-state. Sadly though, if that is to become the case, we will never again have the opportunity to listen to people like your president Kennedy who addressed the General Assembly with "Within the limits of our responsibility in such matters, my country intends to be a participant and not merely an observer, in the peaceful, expeditious movement of nations from the status of colonies to the partnership of equals." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #10 November 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Time for the US to stop funding this "body" and send them packing Of course, it is your national prerogative to reduce or even stop your funding to the UN. You are equally within your rights to quit NATO. You are also within your rights to ignore international conventions of law, trade, and commerce. If you don't want to be part of the UN, elect a government that will stop-payment on your portion of funding, quit, and kick them off your soil. Speaking only for me, I'd be okay with that. The sun will rise tomorrow, and the world will continue on, with or without the participation of your country as a member-state. Sadly though, if that is to become the case, we will never again have the opportunity to listen to people like your president Kennedy who addressed the General Assembly with "Within the limits of our responsibility in such matters, my country intends to be a participant and not merely an observer, in the peaceful, expeditious movement of nations from the status of colonies to the partnership of equals." If the UN were as you described it I would have no problem being a participant. IF other countries shared more of the cost of this body I would have less problem supporting it. If UN members were force to pay the thousands if not tens of thousands of their parking tickets and quick forcing themselves on the people of that that town I would have less of a problem supporting it. If this body would take care of their own rapists and thieves I would have less problems supporting it But do you see that happening? Too much money, too much power"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #11 November 22, 2010 QuoteCan you please explain how somebody serving Sri Lanka and posted to New York causes you to disrespect the entire body of other countries. Shouldn't you direct your contempt to Sri Lanka if you feel that strongly? Easy, the U.N. doesn't have a vetting process for any of it's members. Sri Lanka put him up and the rest of the world excepted him. Now this man could lead a U.N. coalition into another country. You don't have a problem with that? The examples you gave of Canadian soldiers are of them acting on there own accord. What happens when they are ordered to commit those acts? Do you charge them for refusing to follow orders or do you charge them for war crimes? The diffrence between you and me is that I would never put any soldier in a position where he has to choose his charge. The U.N. has a long history of being a corrupt organization with no real power. Counties all over have ignored there sanctions. As a place for countries to come together in the court of public opinion, it is still useful. Beyond that, it has long outlived it's purpose."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #12 November 22, 2010 Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #13 November 22, 2010 Quote Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke. And your post defines only a small part of the problem with this body"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." 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rushmc 23 #10 November 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Time for the US to stop funding this "body" and send them packing Of course, it is your national prerogative to reduce or even stop your funding to the UN. You are equally within your rights to quit NATO. You are also within your rights to ignore international conventions of law, trade, and commerce. If you don't want to be part of the UN, elect a government that will stop-payment on your portion of funding, quit, and kick them off your soil. Speaking only for me, I'd be okay with that. The sun will rise tomorrow, and the world will continue on, with or without the participation of your country as a member-state. Sadly though, if that is to become the case, we will never again have the opportunity to listen to people like your president Kennedy who addressed the General Assembly with "Within the limits of our responsibility in such matters, my country intends to be a participant and not merely an observer, in the peaceful, expeditious movement of nations from the status of colonies to the partnership of equals." If the UN were as you described it I would have no problem being a participant. IF other countries shared more of the cost of this body I would have less problem supporting it. If UN members were force to pay the thousands if not tens of thousands of their parking tickets and quick forcing themselves on the people of that that town I would have less of a problem supporting it. If this body would take care of their own rapists and thieves I would have less problems supporting it But do you see that happening? Too much money, too much power"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #11 November 22, 2010 QuoteCan you please explain how somebody serving Sri Lanka and posted to New York causes you to disrespect the entire body of other countries. Shouldn't you direct your contempt to Sri Lanka if you feel that strongly? Easy, the U.N. doesn't have a vetting process for any of it's members. Sri Lanka put him up and the rest of the world excepted him. Now this man could lead a U.N. coalition into another country. You don't have a problem with that? The examples you gave of Canadian soldiers are of them acting on there own accord. What happens when they are ordered to commit those acts? Do you charge them for refusing to follow orders or do you charge them for war crimes? The diffrence between you and me is that I would never put any soldier in a position where he has to choose his charge. The U.N. has a long history of being a corrupt organization with no real power. Counties all over have ignored there sanctions. As a place for countries to come together in the court of public opinion, it is still useful. Beyond that, it has long outlived it's purpose."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #12 November 22, 2010 Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #13 November 22, 2010 Quote Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke. And your post defines only a small part of the problem with this body"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jgoose71 0 #11 November 22, 2010 QuoteCan you please explain how somebody serving Sri Lanka and posted to New York causes you to disrespect the entire body of other countries. Shouldn't you direct your contempt to Sri Lanka if you feel that strongly? Easy, the U.N. doesn't have a vetting process for any of it's members. Sri Lanka put him up and the rest of the world excepted him. Now this man could lead a U.N. coalition into another country. You don't have a problem with that? The examples you gave of Canadian soldiers are of them acting on there own accord. What happens when they are ordered to commit those acts? Do you charge them for refusing to follow orders or do you charge them for war crimes? The diffrence between you and me is that I would never put any soldier in a position where he has to choose his charge. The U.N. has a long history of being a corrupt organization with no real power. Counties all over have ignored there sanctions. As a place for countries to come together in the court of public opinion, it is still useful. Beyond that, it has long outlived it's purpose."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 November 22, 2010 Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 November 22, 2010 Quote Well, to Godwin the thread, this guy going to work at the UN is a lot like putting Heinrich Himmler into UN office. I was going to make a joke about how next maybe we could elect the countries with the worst human rights records to the UN Human Rights Council. Unfortunately it's not a joke because it already happens all the time. Hence folks referring to the UN itself as a joke. And your post defines only a small part of the problem with this body"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
