Anyone Hungry For Crow?

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by Charles Benninghoff on Thursday, November 18, 2010 at 4:26pm

November 18, 2010 -- China flexed its military muscle on a Monday evening, November 9, 2010, in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast.



Intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama was scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia (known as the "Coconut Cleanup Caper").



This information is not widely read or known. It should be of great interest to the fans of Sarah Palin, all conservative members of the Republican National Committee, our armed forces groups (Navy, Marines, Army, Air Force and Coast Guard) and supporters of the United States Constitution.



The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China's leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.



The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.



Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles . Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.



There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.Missile experts, including those from Jane's in London , say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. It has been learned that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.



Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely possess intercepts of Chinese telemetry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.



Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile "show of force" in skies west of Los Angeles .



Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.



The White House also wants to downplay the missile story before President Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo . According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China's navy can also play in waters off the American coast.



For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarrassment, especially for the Navy's Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan 's December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.



In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People's Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles . Xiong denied he made any such comments but the "spin" on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at "Star Wars II."

[wmw999 2,587]

This seems to have first been written by Twelvebooks on November 13. Their title phrase appears to be

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Twelve Books – Rature(sic), Anti Christ, End Time Signs, Prophecy, News."

So if Benninghoff is saying he wrote that, kinda looks like he's a plagiarist. Of apocalyptic websites where the webmaster doesn't bother to spell check the title page.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[wmw999 2,587]

Here is an article (from the "evil" New York Times, no less) that seems to be a pretty good example of what constitutes debate.

Notice there are names of real people in there. And some of them even appear to have qualifications. They don't all agree, either.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[billvon 3,111]

I like this theory:

"It was a publicity stunt for a television show about aliens."

We'll definitely have egg on our faces when the next alien reality TV show starts.

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Not a single shred of evidence to support it.

Hey, maybe it was meatball launched by the FSM.

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[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Well, Wendy showed that "Charles Benninghoff" probably didn't write it.

I don't know if he really wrote any of THIS or not, but I don't have a whole lot of trust in anyone that puts his name on this kind of writing.

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[Amazon 7]

Have you stocked up???

[sundevil777 102]

Did you really believe that "article"?

Where did you find that bullshit?

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[jakee 1,594]

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Anyone Hungry For Crow? by skyrider

Uh... no. Because what you've just copied is made up.

Seriously: What intelligence sources? What experts? How does the author know what they think?

Why does he mention that there was no record of a plane having taken off from LAX (Seriously? One of the busiest airports in the world? No departures?) when the contrail is from an aircraft flying inland from offshore?

The whole article is so inanely ridiculous it actually hurts.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[wmw999 2,587]

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Did you really believe that "article"?

The answer is going to be "I just posted it for discussion"

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jakee 1,594]

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Did you really believe that "article"?

The answer is going to be "I just posted it for discussion"

Of course, this time round the thread title could make that a little more difficult. I'm going to guess hit'n'run, followed by a new thread and a new article by the close of the weekend.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Did you really believe that "article"?

The answer is going to be "I just posted it for discussion"

Wendy P.

Oh, I see... You're one of those liberals who wants to stop open discussion of the issue.

Remster

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Did you really believe that "article"?

The answer is going to be "I just posted it for discussion"
Wendy P.

Oh, I see... You're one of those liberals who wants to stop open discussion of the issue.

Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

Let me say right up front that IF this were an actual missile firing AND the government was trying to cover it up, there would in fact be an issue. That said, NOBODY has ever shown any proof this is happening.

If China had launched the missile as a show of force, certainly by now they would have said "Ha HA! In your face America! Suck on our Long Dong!"

But, they haven't.

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[Amazon 7]

I think some of the fringe right posters are just waiting for the impending communiqué from Chairman Hung Far Low to laugh at your silly assumption.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Suck on our Long Dong!

Long? Nope; that's that other race.
It's the real reason we imported them Back in the Day, you know.

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I think some of the fringe right posters are just waiting for the impending communiqué from Chairman Hung Far Low to laugh at your silly assumption.

Hey, I can hear them whackin' it through the internet.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Anyone Hungry For Crow?

Now you've made me hungry for deep-fried cornish hen.

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Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

so don't discuss it until we know what it is. Is that like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it"??

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Rob

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Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

so don't discuss it until we know what it is. Is that like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it"??

Except what skyrider posted isn't a discussion. It's a plagiarized claim of things not in evidence.

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[skyrider 0]

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Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

so don't discuss it until we know what it is. Is that like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it"??

Except what skyrider posted isn't a discussion. It's a plagiarized claim of things not in evidence.

Plagerized?? How so?

what proof do you have the author is wrong?

Oh...only your opinion, the same thing the author has, other than people he quoted...Oh, thats right, he named sources...

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

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Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

so don't discuss it until we know what it is. Is that like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it"??

Except what skyrider posted isn't a discussion. It's a plagiarized claim of things not in evidence.

Plagerized?? How so?

what proof do you have the author is wrong?

Oh...only your opinion, the same thing the author has, other than people he quoted...Oh, thats right, he named sources...

Plagarized as in copied directly from the source Wendy linked. And he didn't name it as a source (unless he did so in the original which you didn't provide a link to).

And the site Wendy linked actually copied it from a different site HERE. Dated Nov 12. Authored by Wayne Madsen, not Charles Benninghoff.
Read some of the comments on the prisonplanet site to get a feel for the quality of "critical thinking" going on by the supporters of this theory.

And which "intelligence sources" did he name?

"Japanes and other Asian intelligence sources?"

"Navy intelligence sources?"

"The White House?"

I don't see a single named quote in the OP. Or the place he plagarized it from.

Note: If the site you got it from credits Wayne Madsen as the original author, I'll retract the "Plagarism" charge, but it's still a load of interned bullshit.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Kennedy 0]

Man, if you keep up this nonsense, the Chinese missile will become your 9-11 nanothermite. You sure you want to put yourself in that company.

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Man, if you keep up this nonsense, the Chinese missile will become your 9-11 nanothermite. You sure you want to put yourself in that company.

Oh he is back on his much more familiar ground now.... see his new thread

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Or maybe is one of those that wants to know there's actually an issue before having a discussion about something that may have never happened to begin with.

so don't discuss it until we know what it is. Is that like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it"??

Except what skyrider posted isn't a discussion. It's a plagiarized claim of things not in evidence.

Plagerized?? How so?

what proof do you have the author is wrong?

Oh...only your opinion, the same thing the author has, other than people he quoted...Oh, thats right, he named sources...

Plagarized as in copied directly from the source Wendy linked. And he didn't name it as a source (unless he did so in the original which you didn't provide a link to).

And the site Wendy linked actually copied it from a different site HERE. Dated Nov 12. Authored by Wayne Madsen, not Charles Benninghoff.
Read some of the comments on the prisonplanet site to get a feel for the quality of "critical thinking" going on by the supporters of this theory.

And which "intelligence sources" did he name?

"Japanes and other Asian intelligence sources?"

"Navy intelligence sources?"

"The White House?"

I don't see a single named quote in the OP. Or the place he plagarized it from.

Note: If the site you got it from credits Wayne Madsen as the original author, I'll retract the "Plagarism" charge, but it's still a load of interned bullshit.

OH MY Gawd...I lost the link off my post...I should have known, another "how liberals argue" game!

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OH MY Gawd...I lost the link off my post...I should have known, another "how liberals argue" game!

Um, skyRhys, try to keep up. This isn't left vs right. This is about you using a source about as reliable as alternet. A source that you didn't link to, that has text copied from another source. You calling all your detractors lefties is a lot like certain other posters calling everyone who disagrees with the neo con fascists.

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