Did we all lose?

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P.J. O'Rourke thinks so.

www.weeklystandard.com/articles/i-think-we-lost-election_516690.html

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America’s elected and appointed officials ought to be longing to return to their personal lives and private interests. They should feel burdened by their powers, irked with their responsibilities, and embarrassed at their prominence in the public eye. When they say they want to spend more time with their families, they should mean it.

How true. They should stop calling these people public servants. We seem to be serving them. I think a good place to start would be term limits and taking away their expense accounts.

A congressman's pay is $175,000 a year and that should be that. Stop funding there private parties. In an effort to keep this non-partisan, also because I think it applies across the board, some congressmen (and women) have spent over $1.5 million a year in other perks. I'm not talking security and airplanes either.

If it's service, it needs to be a burden.

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P.J. O'Rourke thinks so.

www.weeklystandard.com/articles/i-think-we-lost-election_516690.html

I like the comparison to the parent-teacher conference. I hate those. Finally got a teacher this year for my younger daughter who gets that we actually do pay attention to homework and the stuff that comes home, work with our kids on school stuff, and are aware of her strengths and weaknesses.

She allows us to look at the paperwork, nod a few times, exchange pleasantries, and be on our way. No 20 minute session reviewing the obvious and pretending we are excited to be there. How refreshing.

I do hate that they are horrible at scheduling, with our conference almost always starting after the time it was supposed to be over; but then, we get to be the now-your-back-schedule family.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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A congressman's pay is $175,000 a year and that should be that.

I'd like to see senators congressmen make no more than the average of their constituency, as well as term limits.

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

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i have felt, for a long time now..
that elected offices should be filled by
Economists
Scientists
Engineers
Educators
Physicians
and a few ( middle of the road type ) Religious Leaders..

Not
Attorneys
Career Politicians
Ego Maniacs
Party Partisans
and other Spotlight Cravers...

i think it will happen NOT in MY lifetime!!!!
too bad..


jt

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Additional info in the topic:

Interesting difference in Ques #2 between Tea Party-Conservative and Tea Party-Libertarian.

And, as the article indicates, note Ques #3.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/17/in-tea-party-poll-fiscal-issues-beat-out-social-issues-by-a-lot/

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Do you think so?

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Additional info in the topic:

Interesting difference in Ques #2 between Tea Party-Conservative and Tea Party-Libertarian.

And, as the article indicates, note Ques #3.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/17/in-tea-party-poll-fiscal-issues-beat-out-social-issues-by-a-lot/

Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

Mike
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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

... or loathing. One or the other.

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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

... or loathing. One or the other.

I'd be willing to bet it is both.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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--"But how do we obtain this cadre of worthy citizens fidgeting unhappily in their honors and dignities? Given that politics is like war even more than it’s like vivisection, we could draft them. In World War II this worked out well. Randomly selected young and fit members of the Greatest Generation performed their duties admirably. Then again, in Vietnam, with the members of the following Notsohotso Generation, this didn’t work out well. Or, rather, it worked out well for the North Vietnamese. "-----


This quote grabs my ass. He insults the Vietnam draftee. I would like to see the study that proves they were losers as he implys. I think the draftees are the same in any war (civil war,WWI,WWII, Korea, etc), some good some bad. Why did they have to get drafted, because they weren't so gunho to volunteer.
I hate to say it but it was the Greatest Generation that put us in Vietnam. The end result is their fault/legacy. It is their black mark and don't try to move it to their sons and daughters.

RIP
Phillip, Warren, Justin, Fred, Bill, Kenny, and Glenn.

Sorry about the rant.

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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

... or loathing. One or the other.

I'd be willing to bet it is both.

You're probably right.
What would you think about Palin:
(a) As the GOP's nominee for President?
(b) As the President of the United States?

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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

... or loathing. One or the other.

I'd be willing to bet it is both.

You're probably right.
What would you think about Palin:
(a) As the GOP's nominee for President?
(b) As the President of the United States?

a) I think it wold be a gender based, misplaced, uneducated decision.
b) Disheartening, disappointing, embarrassing, better than Obama.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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I think so too.
I do not agree with his dig on the Vietnam Veteran's.
I understand his analogy of the Parent Teacher Conference.

The only good I see out of this past election is a balance of power and I think history shows us that works out better in the long run.

Although I think this will be a short two year run and only one year will be beneficial to us.

Matt

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So, start being safe, first!!!

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Ah, even better: Look who came in runner-up in Ques #4.

Tsk, tsk...such fear.

... or loathing. One or the other.

I'd be willing to bet it is both.

You're probably right.
What would you think about Palin:
(a) As the GOP's nominee for President?
(b) As the President of the United States?

a) I think it wold be a gender based, misplaced, uneducated decision.
b) Disheartening, disappointing, embarrassing, better than Obama.

You and I agree on 6 out of 7 points. Not bad.

Or frightening.

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i have felt, for a long time now..
that elected offices should be filled by
Economists
Scientists
Engineers
Educators
Physicians
and a few ( middle of the road type ) Religious Leaders..

Most of these are notorious for not being able to play well each others.

"How dare you disagree with me! I'll show you!"

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i have felt, for a long time now..
that elected offices should be filled by
Economists
Scientists
Engineers
Educators
Physicians
and a few ( middle of the road type ) Religious Leaders..

Most of these are notorious for not being able to play well each others.

Not at ALL like the standard group of freeloaders typically elected.

Every fight is a food fight if you're a cannibal

Goodness is something to be chosen. When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man. - Anthony Burgess

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>elected offices should be filled by

>Economists

Lenin and Trotsky were trained as economists

>Scientists

Herbert Hoover - geologist

>Engineers

Yasir Arafat was a civil engineer.
Jimmy Carter is a nuclear engineer.

>Educators

LBJ - teacher
Daniel Patrick Moynihan - college professor
Ayatolla Khomeini was a seminary professor for decades.

>Physicians

Howard Dean
Ron Paul
Bashar al-Assad (President of Syria) trained as ophthalmologist.

>Religious Leaders..

..like Phillip and Daniel Berrigan
Oh, and Jesse Jackson and Jesse Jackson, Jr.