billvon 3,107 #51 November 17, 2010 >Those countries are not countries where people have religious freedoms, >or freedom of speech. I'm a U.S. Marine and as much as I don't want a >Mosque to go near ground zero. Those people have the same rights as >anyone of us have. So the question is are we going to deny people rights >because they practice a different religion? Well said. I get annoyed when people compare us to Iran, or Syria, or Saudi Arabia. Our goal should not to be as bad as they are. We are better than they are - we allow people more freedoms than they do, and are better at protecting people's rights, no matter what religion they are. I hope we stay that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #52 November 17, 2010 I find it odd that the biggest point is missed on the same individuals. That point being that Islam/Muslim does not equal terrorist. When someone uses “THEY” to describe over a billion people! that person has grossly over simplified everything. You cant be that fucking stupid not to understand that 30 people do not represent over a billion or can you? If your not that fucking retarded, then you do understand that all peoples, groups etc. can be viewed incorrectly by only focusing on the minority. Simple facts here, not hard to comprehend unless you are applying a different standard to Muslims. If you are applying a different standard to a mass group of people it is because you are a bigot. I believe that’s the very definition. Also when did The Constitution only become relevant when you feel like it? I am sick of seeing these so called Americans claim they are patriots yet they betray what the founding fathers stood for so easily. Read The Constitution, and if you don’t like the rights it guarantees GET THE FUCK OUT and join a fascist country.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #53 November 17, 2010 Quote You cant be that fucking stupid not to understand that 30 people do not represent over a billion or can you? There are only 30 muslim terrorists in the world? Well - that should be esy to fix.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #54 November 17, 2010 QuoteThere is a simple answer to all of this. Get the muslims to band together and with their overwhelming numbers - Stand the fuck up and denounce, as one religion anyone that is an extremist and deal with them. A few weeks ago, I was in Seoul for a week. All over the news at the time was a big to do because a bunch of Christians started to attack/disrupt the Buddhists while they were performing their ceremonies. Groups of Christians stormed into the Buddhist temples while they were preying and started to hold Christian ceremonies in the middle of the temples. They also went around beheading any statues of Buddha. Where is the outrage. Unless all Christians world wide stand up together and denounce what those bad apples did, I feel that Christianity should no longer be allowed to be practiced in any civilized country. All Churches should be shut down immediately and anyone wearing a cross should be considered a terrorist and treated as such until otherwise proven innocent.Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #55 November 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere is a simple answer to all of this. Get the muslims to band together and with their overwhelming numbers - Stand the fuck up and denounce, as one religion anyone that is an extremist and deal with them. A few weeks ago, I was in Seoul for a week. All over the news at the time was a big to do because a bunch of Christians started to attack/disrupt the Buddhists while they were performing their ceremonies. Groups of Christians stormed into the Buddhist temples while they were preying and started to hold Christian ceremonies in the middle of the temples. They also went around beheading any statues of Buddha. Where is the outrage. Unless all Christians world wide stand up together and denounce what those bad apples did, I feel that Christianity should no longer be allowed to be practiced in any civilized country. All Churches should be shut down immediately and anyone wearing a cross should be considered a terrorist and treated as such until otherwise proven innocent. If I had been aware of this before you posted it it would have been demonized. your comments about the religion being shut down is a little liberal, don't you think?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #56 November 17, 2010 Quote Quote You cant be that fucking stupid not to understand that 30 people do not represent over a billion or can you? There are only 30 muslim terrorists in the world? Well - that should be esy to fix. yup - and Billvon thinks 600 churches in Iran is more than the number of mosques in the US. what can you do? It's the new math ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #57 November 17, 2010 Quote Quote Quote You cant be that fucking stupid not to understand that 30 people do not represent over a billion or can you? There are only 30 muslim terrorists in the world? Well - that should be esy to fix. yup - and Billvon thinks 600 churches in Iran is more than the number of mosques in the US. what can you do? It's the new math I think we are coming closer to that definition of liberalism that some here have been requesting.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #58 November 17, 2010 >yup - and Billvon thinks 600 churches in Iran is more than the number >of mosques in the US. And apparently you think they want to build 600 mosques near the WTC. This is fun. What other assumptions can we make? (And no, I won't accept your apology for wanting to kill those puppies) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #59 November 17, 2010 QuoteIf I had been aware of this before you posted it it would have been demonized. Great, that is you, but you aren't calling for 1 or even a handful of peaceful Muslims to denounce the radicals, you are saying that all must stand up and do it. So until ALL Christians world wide denounce what those radicals are doing, I think at the very least no churches should be allowed to be built anywhere. Obviously, that is a ridiculous statement but no more so than anyone who says that the peaceful Muslims are all supporting the radicals if they don't stand up and shout otherwise. Quoteyour comments about the religion being shut down is a little liberal, don't you think? I don't really think any religion should be stopped. I think they are all just as stupid as the other, but I have no problem with people believing in whatever they want provided they don't force it on others. I was just trying to make a point.Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #60 November 17, 2010 Quote>yup - and Billvon thinks 600 churches in Iran is more than the number >of mosques in the US. And apparently you think they want to build 600 mosques near the WTC. This is fun. What other assumptions can we make? (And no, I won't accept your apology for wanting to kill those puppies) I'll play - apparently, you think the area around the WTC is the same size as the entire country of Iran Edit: and if both all the Muslims and all the Catholics are killing puppies, then pretty soon we'll have a shortage. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #61 November 17, 2010 It's all good as long as it's for the children"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #62 November 17, 2010 What happened to all the outrage after the election was held?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #63 November 17, 2010 Don't know, I am mobing yet again...."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #64 November 17, 2010 Quote What happened to all the outrage after the election was held? Funny how all the hyped up fear of the right wing media just . . . vanished. Well, wonder isn't the right word is it. It was to be expected. Fear served its master and now, like anything else, just gets placed on the back burner until the next time they need to have something to whip up support with.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #65 November 18, 2010 Quote Quote What happened to all the outrage after the election was held? Funny how all the hyped up fear of the right wing media just . . . vanished. Well, wonder isn't the right word is it. It was to be expected. Fear served its master and now, like anything else, just gets placed on the back burner until the next time they need to have something to whip up support with. Sucks when you lose doesn't it? Getting used to that yet? I would suggest you do - Pelosi is still teh face of the democrats.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #66 November 18, 2010 So you're admitting the entire election was fear based. Great job. Pity the people just elected are fleeing like rats from their campaign promises to stop earmarks and cut spending.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #67 November 18, 2010 QuoteSo you're admitting the entire election was fear based. Great job. Pity the people just elected are fleeing like rats from their campaign promises to stop earmarks and cut spending. Fear Based?? WTF is the Obcesssion around here with libs and the word "Fear"...every time someone says they do not like something, a lib screams, Your scared .. Is it projection?? Me thinks it is..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #68 November 18, 2010 QuoteFear Based?? WTF is the Obcesssion around here with libs and the word "Fear"...every time someone says they do not like something, a lib screams, Your scared .. Ever read 1984? Ever watch FoxNews?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #69 November 18, 2010 QuoteDon't know, I am mobing yet again.... WTF is THAT supposed to mean?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #70 November 18, 2010 Is not of your business, the conversation was mostly involving other vets people with knowledge of military terms and things we have to deal with."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #71 November 18, 2010 QuoteIs not of your business, the conversation was mostly involving other vets people with knowledge of military terms and things we have to deal with. Is writing very poor English another one of your ways of showing just how much you despise England?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #72 November 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteFear Based?? WTF is the Obcesssion around here with libs and the word "Fear"...every time someone says they do not like something, a lib screams, Your scared .. Ever read 1984? Ever watch FoxNews? No..... Well, sometimes FOX. while changing channels! 1984, great book for stoners... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #73 November 18, 2010 >1984, great book for stoners... Agreed. And Atlas Shrugged? Great for people with short attention spans. Grapes of Wrath? Good for drunks. (That's why it has grapes in it.) To Kill a Mockingbird? All tree huggers, that audience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #74 November 18, 2010 WHAT???? Did BillyourlastwarningVon just agree with me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #75 November 18, 2010 Quote WHAT???? Did BillyourlastwarningVon just agree with me? Not so much . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
