skyrider 0 #1 November 11, 2010 A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Director Anatoly Perminov of the Russian Federal Space Agency states that an Arkon-1 military satellite monitoring the western coastal regions of North America detected an “EMP anomalous event” occurring on November 8th at 0600 Pacific Standard Time (-8 hours GMT) that bore the “direct signature” of a YJ-62 subsonic anti-ship missile fired from a Chinese People’s Liberation Navy Type 041 submarine (NATO code name Yuan-Class) [photo 2nd left] known to be patrolling approximately 200 kilometers off United States coast. Photo's at link at bottm Nearly 11 hours after this EMP “event”, this report further says, Arkon-1 then detected a BGM-109 (Tomahawk) subsonic cruise missile launched from a US Navy Ohio-Class submarine operating off the coast of California [photo bottom left] on a “training mission” from its home port located at US Navy’s Kitsap Base in Washington State and was enroute to the largest American Naval Base on the US west coast in San Diego, California. Note: A Russian military intelligence (GRU) addendum to this report states that the “training mission” the Ohio-Class submarine was on is related to a new US law passed this year allowing for the first time in history for women to serve on US Navy subs and was an “operational exercise” testing female Naval Officers competence prior to their first “operational deployment”. The “immediate effect” of the Chinese Navy’s firing of their EMP missile, this report continues, was the “catastrophic crippling” of the US based cruise ship Carnival Splendor [photo 3rd left] that stranded its nearly 4,500 passengers and crew in a “dead in the water” boat and prompting the Americans to send the US Navy’s Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, warplanes, and supply aircraft to protect it from further attack after all of its electronic systems were destroyed. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) such as was used upon the Carnival Splendor is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that causes rapidly changing electric fields (or magnetic fields) that when coupling with electrical/electronic systems produces damaging current and voltage surges destroying all non-hardened electrical systems. The US Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) had previously warned that American ships were vulnerable to such attacks with EMP Assessment Group Leader of Blaise Corbett stating that “the consequences of failing to take appropriate precautions to protect fleet mission critical systems can ultimately prove catastrophic to the Navy’s mission.” The purpose of this Chinese EMP upon an American ship, this report says, was twofold: 1.) A test of the EMP weapon itself that in a war against the Americans and would be used against their Naval Fleet and Marine Forces operating out of California and the west coast of the US, and 2.) A test of the response time for American retaliatory measures against any Chinese warship attacking the US and/or its interests in the Pacific. The GRU further states that the timing of this attack was timed even more crucially due to China’s testing of America’s response time during a period when their President, as Commander In Chief of all US Military Forces, was out of the country, as Obama was as he was in India at the time. The Americans response time of nearly 11 hours between the EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor and the US retaliatory strike, the GRU states, “virtually assured” that the Chinese submarine responsible for the attack escaped, but which they further point out may have been intended by the Americans so as not to escalate this crisis. To the geo-political reason(s) for a Communist Chinese attack upon the Americans just days before the crucially important G-20 Summit in South Korea, which both President’s Hu and Obama will be attending, this report says was due to the United States, in essence, declaring total economic war upon the rest of the world by its printing of nearly $1 Trillion US Dollars in order to monetize its staggering debt and that China warned: “If the United States can increase the volume of dollars and it can transmit inflation to other countries to lessen the pressure of debt, then it will bring about a catastrophic influence on the world.” Typical of the United States propaganda media organs in telling their citizens about the true events relating to this crisis, it as if they have put themselves in total Cold War mode reminiscent of the 1940’s to the late 1980’s when they, likewise, failed to inform them of the many incidents or US Soldier deaths related to that conflict. Most dangerous about the American people not being informed of the true and tragic state of our world today is their not being able to prepare for the much larger conflicts to come, especially in light of China’s Communists vowing that they won’t go down without a fight. A fight, mind you, that now appears not only a sure thing, but imminent. © November 10, 2010 EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #2 November 11, 2010 National Enquirer is now online?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #3 November 11, 2010 1) Why the new thread? Weren't two enough already? 2) "Missile" is not a difficult word to spell. 3) Do you think this report is real or made up?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #4 November 11, 2010 Missle Explained What's a "missle"? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #5 November 11, 2010 Quote Missle Explained What's a "missle"? A typo brainiac.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #6 November 11, 2010 Any commentary? What do you think of this report? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #7 November 11, 2010 Do you think this report is real or made up?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 November 11, 2010 QuoteDo you think this report is real or made up? It's easier to just claim "Oh, i never believed it" after it's exposed as a coockoo story. Tho, most of the time with these posts, the coockoo status is kind of inferred.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #9 November 11, 2010 QuoteAny commentary? What do you think of this report? It seems like a knee jerk paraniod reaction, from a splinter group, BUT , also worth passing on.. Fact is, that cruise ship is sitting dead in the water, and a missile was launched....why and at what...no one knows... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 November 11, 2010 QuoteQuoteAny commentary? What do you think of this report? It seems like a knee jerk paraniod reaction, from a splinter group, BUT , also worth passing on.. Fact is, that cruise ship is sitting dead in the water, and a missile was launched....why and at what...no one knows... I wonder if that is posted on Rhys' favorite websites yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #11 November 11, 2010 "The Onion"??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #12 November 11, 2010 Not sure that a missle was launched is a fact. That article was ridiculous. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 November 11, 2010 Oh yay! Another conspiracy theorist. Sorry, but any EMP strong enough to disable the engines of a cruise ship is also strong enough to disable every other electronic device on the ship. The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #14 November 11, 2010 Quote Oh yay! Another conspiracy theorist. Sorry, but any EMP strong enough to disable the engines of a cruise ship is also strong enough to disable every other electronic device on the ship. The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water. But!!!!! It's worth passing on, isn't it? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #15 November 11, 2010 Quote The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water ...unless everyone had their cells off cause they knew they were too far out for reception. Seriously though, if electronic devices are turned off, are they still damaged by an EMP?Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 November 11, 2010 QuoteSeriously though, if electronic devices are turned off, are they still damaged by an EMP? More of a question for billvon, but I'm 99.44% certain the answer would be, if it's big enough to disable a cruise ship by causing a fire in an engine room; yes.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 616 #17 November 11, 2010 Quote Quote The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water ...unless everyone had their cells off cause they knew they were too far out for reception. Seriously though, if electronic devices are turned off, are they still damaged by an EMP? Yes - at least your typical consumer electronics. Provided you can induce enough voltage into the circuits to exceed their ratings for a reasonable period of time (modern electronics will be 1-5 volts typical). I don't know what volts/metre an EMP pulse will generate but in Europe the law is that all consumer electronics must operate with 3V/m induced field, alarm systems and medical are 10V/m and automotive safety critical upto 100V/m (at a 100V/m even the windshield wipers start arcing and sparking)Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #18 November 11, 2010 Quote Quote Oh yay! Another conspiracy theorist. Sorry, but any EMP strong enough to disable the engines of a cruise ship is also strong enough to disable every other electronic device on the ship. The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water. But!!!!! It's worth passing on, isn't it? You have a problem with leting people make up thier own minds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #19 November 11, 2010 QuoteFact is, that cruise ship is sitting dead in the water, and a missile was launched....why and at what...no one knows... That's not fact. That's paranoid fantasy. Do you honestly believe that Whatdoesitmean.com has access to Russian state security documents?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #20 November 11, 2010 >Seriously though, if electronic devices are turned off, are they still damaged by an EMP? Yes. Induced current flow due to the EM pulse is what damages them. Turning the device off doesn't protect it. The only way to really protect it is either with very good EM shielding (i.e. high-mu ferrite) or with active clamps that clamp everything to ground, and leaves only very, very short loops for inductive pickup. Ironically, the one sort of engine that EMP does not affect, since it does not rely on electrical ignition, is (you guessed it) diesel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #21 November 11, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Oh yay! Another conspiracy theorist. Sorry, but any EMP strong enough to disable the engines of a cruise ship is also strong enough to disable every other electronic device on the ship. The fact ordinary cell phones were still operational pretty much blows this conspiracy theory out of the water. But!!!!! It's worth passing on, isn't it? You have a problem with leting people make up thier own minds? Of course not. You are free to believe whatever wacko coockoo story you comprehend as valid and fact based, even when "facts" are nothing but. But don't complain about it when people call you on it.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #22 November 11, 2010 Ah. Another Chink in the armor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 November 11, 2010 uh, how is it we're even debating this seriously? I thought it was clever to include the disabled cruise ship in the story, but this is exactly what I'd expect from a well written piece of satire. But as an actual accounting of the 'event'? Of course not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 November 12, 2010 Quote "The Onion"??? No, that's Lucky's fave, not rhys'... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 November 12, 2010 Quote Quote "The Onion"??? No, that's Lucky's fave, not rhys'... Well there is always AlterNut.net that someone else uses a lot too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites