dreamdancer 0 #1 November 9, 2010 war or peace... QuoteIsrael today risked provoking fresh US anger when a plan to build 800 homes in the West Bank settlement of Ariel was disclosed hours after the Obama administration expressed "deep disappointment" at approval for more than 1,300 Jewish homes in East Jerusalem. The plan for the homes, in an area of Ariel close to the Palestinian town of Salfit, was reported to be at an advanced stage, needing only the approval of the local planning and building committee. The disclosure drew a furious reaction from the Palestinians, who said it was time for the international community to immediately recognise a Palestinian state on the pre-occupation 1967 borders. Saeb Erekat, the Palestinians' chief negotiator, said: "Once more, at the moment when we expected Prime Minister Netanyahu to announce a full settlement freeze ... he has sent Palestinians and the US administration a clear message that Israel chooses settlements, not peace." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/09/israeli-settlement-homes-ariel-west-bankstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 November 9, 2010 It's just so entertaining to see Palestinians act like undeserving victims. What, their Arab brothers haven't welcomed them with open arms? And just to appease the hypocrasy-meter, if the Arabs refuse to recognize a Jewish state, why should Jews recognize a Palestinian state? And wasn't Jordan supposed to be the Palestinian country?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #3 November 10, 2010 Israel begins with "I" ....just sayin'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #4 November 10, 2010 QuoteIt's just so entertaining to see Palestinians act like undeserving victims. What, their Arab brothers haven't welcomed them with open arms? And just to appease the hypocrasy-meter, if the Arabs refuse to recognize a Jewish state, why should Jews recognize a Palestinian state? And wasn't Jordan supposed to be the Palestinian country? But you know facts should not get in the way, besides, the Palestinian who sold those lands back in the day to jewish settlers, lived very prosperous lives in....Jordania. Let's compare sides, shall we? One, builds buildings homes, create jobs, the other, arms contraband, parades for suicide bombers, and kids in said costumes. The couple of months I spent in Israel, pretty much gave me a good idea of what I already read, and discussed with people in that part of the world."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #5 November 10, 2010 so you're voting for a big fat juicy world war?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #6 November 10, 2010 you too.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #7 November 10, 2010 Quoteyou too. Nope, not me, just suffice with these crazy radical muslims, and pretty much things could calm a lot more. If you haven't notice, Jihad has been declared around the world already."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #8 November 10, 2010 Regardless of who is "right"; Which brave souls are planning reside in these "800 homes in the West Bank settlement of Ariel" ? Would insurance companies even cover them ? Seems like easy targets for rockets or other kinds of sabotage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #9 November 10, 2010 I would expect nothing less from Israel. We need to cut off all support and hope for peace in the middle east. these people (both sides) have been at it for 2000 years now and nothing we do or say is going to change that. they will stop fighting when THEY are tired of it, and not a moment sooner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #10 November 10, 2010 Quoteso you're voting for a big fat juicy world war? Nope, just pointing out the hypocrasy. Besides, how is this provocation going to lead to all out world war when the thousands of prior ones haven't? What, some radical cleric is going to call for annihilation of all Jews, Israel, and maybe throw in the US for good measure? Oh wait, that already happens on a regular basis. Maybe someone will start lobbing rockets at Israel and attempt to use bombs to tartget US/Jewish?Israeli targets? Oops, already happening. So what's so different here?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #11 November 10, 2010 QuoteIt's just so entertaining to see Palestinians act like undeserving victims. What, their Arab brothers haven't welcomed them with open arms? And just to appease the hypocrasy-meter, if the Arabs refuse to recognize a Jewish state, why should Jews recognize a Palestinian state? And wasn't Jordan supposed to be the Palestinian country? The Palestinian's were victims...... 70 years ago. They ceased victim status when their elected government went corrupt, started sending suicide bombers into Israel, and launched rockets at civilians. Now they are nothing more than puppets for Iran. The world has evolved to the point where there could be peace if they really wanted it. They just can't seem to stop launching rockets at civilians though. There is a piece of history the west keeps trying to bury though. If you ever want to know why Palestinians are so angry, just google the word "Nakba" or "Al-Nakba""There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 November 10, 2010 QuoteThere is a piece of history the west keeps trying to bury though. If you ever want to know why Palestinians are so angry, just google the word "Nakba" or "Al-Nakba" Well if you really want to consider the issue, you have to consider the history of "TransJordan" and actions of the UN. Then you have to read history as reported by both sides, and consider whether Israeli leaders are responsible for expelling Palestinians or whether the blame rests with the Palestinians' own leaders. I happen to believe both, along with leaders of surrounding Arab countries. Let's not ignore the fact that those countries were planning war on Israel before there was an Israel. Honestly, when I listen to some leaders in the middle east, I wonder what they refer to as the catastrophe: the Palestinian exodus and living conditions, or the fact that the Arab countries lost their war on Israel.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 November 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere is a piece of history the west keeps trying to bury though. If you ever want to know why Palestinians are so angry, just google the word "Nakba" or "Al-Nakba" Well if you really want to consider the issue, you have to consider the history of "TransJordan" and actions of the UN. Then you have to read history as reported by both sides, and consider whether Israeli leaders are responsible for expelling Palestinians or whether the blame rests with the Palestinians' own leaders. I happen to believe both, along with leaders of surrounding Arab countries. Let's not ignore the fact that those countries were planning war on Israel before there was an Israel. Honestly, when I listen to some leaders in the middle east, I wonder what they refer to as the catastrophe: the Palestinian exodus and living conditions, or the fact that the Arab countries lost their war on Israel. From Wiki Most of Palestine's 700,000 "refugees" fled their homes because of the flail of war (and in the expectation that they would shortly return to their homes on the backs of victorious Arab invaders). Quite a few Arabs in Israel wanted no part of the Grand Mufti Amin al-Husayni and did not join in with his followers who attacked with the rest of the Arab armies the moment Israel was declared. Today their children make up about 20% of the citizens of Israel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #14 November 10, 2010 and it won't be long before the majority of israeli citizens are non jewish.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #15 November 10, 2010 Why shouldnt they build homes there?, It is thier land! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #16 November 10, 2010 not according to international law. (and plain old common sense)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #17 November 10, 2010 Quotenot according to international law. (and plain old common sense) According the israeli citizens ,and Jews born there, yep, it is plain old common sense, it is thier land! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #18 November 10, 2010 so you vote for war too.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 November 10, 2010 Quoteso you vote for war too. I vote to protect one's own property from someone that is illegally trying to take it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #20 November 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteso you vote for war too. I vote to protect one's own property from someone that is illegally trying to take it. so you agree with the UN (and your government) that illegal israeli building should stop.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #21 November 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote so you vote for war too. I vote to protect one's own property from someone that is illegally trying to take it. so you agree with the UN (and your government) that illegal israeli building should stop. Sense when was THAT the opinion? Ohhh I forgot, we now have a Muslim on office... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #22 November 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote so you vote for war too. I vote to protect one's own property from someone that is illegally trying to take it. so you agree with the UN (and your government) that illegal israeli building should stop. Sense when was THAT the opinion? Ohhh I forgot, we now have a Muslim on office... it is very apt that you use a 'crazy' emoticon at the end of this sentence.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #23 November 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteso you vote for war too. I vote to protect one's own property from someone that is illegally trying to take it. so you agree with the UN (and your government) that illegal israeli building should stop. If the lands are taken illegally, then yes, if not then no. pretty simple - Now - prove that the lands are taken illegally. Or is that just your belief?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #24 November 10, 2010 no, you prove that if these latest peace plans don't work we won't end up with a nuclear/world war - because it is looking increasingly likely.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #25 November 10, 2010 Quote no, you prove that if these latest peace plans don't work we won't end up with a nuclear/world war - because it is looking increasingly likely. Well, yeah - if Iran is allowed to develop nuclear weapons.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
