Amazon 7 #1 November 5, 2010 http://www.populistdaily.com/politics/blackwater-xe-and-private-right-wing-armies-in-the-us.html Blackwater, now known as Xe, is a large, private army hired by the Administration of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. It was founded by Eric Prince, an extremely wealthy, Right Wing, former Navy SEAL. He apparently attended the Naval Academy but graduated from Hillsdale College in Michigan, an organization which the last several decades seems to have become largely a diploma mill for children of Conservatives. They were hired at a cost of something like $23 million to go to Iraq and protect Paul Bremer and his team. They are security for foreign state department locations. They are Right-Wing and they are dangerous. Blackwater, or Xe, has been under investigation by Congressional committees because some of its members have been accused of murdering Iraqi citizens. It has its headquarters in North Carolina, with another location near Mt. Carroll, IL. Its stated objective is to be a private security firm. But it has employed over 180,000 mercenary, ex-military personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan, many of whom are former members of the military from dictatorships in Latin America, and other countries. It is said to have a 14,000 person militia in North Carolina. Blackwater, despite its very shadowy existence and its hard Right-Wing advocacy, is still funded by the Obama Administration to provide security for the State Department, among other projects, around the world. The problem is not with Blackwater around the world, it is with situations like the following right here in the United States. We have our own police forces. The day after Katrina..before “Brownie” and his bumbling staff then running FEMA could get moving, long before George W. Bush could get focused, 150 men in black, with body armor, carrying automatic weapons, pistols strapped to their waists and riding in black SUVs with darkly tinted windows were roaming the streets of New Orleans. They were Blackwater. It is said that they were initially paid about $400,000 to show up to protect private property and government locations. They sound very efficient and they certainly sound as though they were professional. Eventually, thanks to the Bush Administration and their friends, they were able to earn over $33 million for “protection” in New Orleans and elsewhere. On whose authority were they there? Homeland Security, they maintained. Others suspected Cheney. In just the last few days, in Hardin, Montana, a previously unknown organization that calls itself the APF (for American Police Force) showed up to take over the jail with plans to open a private security or military training center. This company has no known clients. The head of the organization, who showed up in the town, suspiciously similar to Xe’s (Blackwater’s) New Orleans exploits, with big SUVs and darkly-tinted windows. But these vehicles already had “City of Hardin Police Force” decals on their sides. No one in Hardin knew anything about it. To say the least, with Republican Right Wingers talking about blowing up the Capit0l and starting a revolution, with others shooting doctors and gunning down guards and citizens at public museums, and with Southern Neocon Congressmen being openly disrespectful of the President by brazenly shouting out (falsely) that he is a “liar” at a nationally televised speech before the entire Congress and Adminstration in the House of Representatives–and with a 14,000-man militia in North Carolina supported by the Bush Administration…how long before Liberals wake up? It is time to bring home the American military and the national guard, trained, disciplined, combat-ready soldiers, loyal to the government and put them on standby on American military posts. And we need to do it now. We need to shut down Iraq and bring the troops home. Yes, Bush did it. But Obama was against it. We elected Obama. So bring the troops home. And if the International Tribunals want to blame Bush..fine…let them have him. And Cheney. They caused the deaths of tens of thousands at the very least. Who are we…of all people…to harbor war criminals? These Right Wing propagandists and tea bagging Neocons have become more than just a joke. People thought Hitler was a joke until they found out, too late, that he was dangerous and a madman. We don’t have the luxury in this country of waiting for a bunch of racist, white-supremacist, Right Wing gun-toting Southerners to start trouble again. We need to shut them down now. We don’t need more incidents like Waco and then race riots in Southern cities where these Right Wing conservatives would like to pit Blacks against Whites. Without jobs, many African-Americans have joined and been trained by the military in large numbers. And since the Civil Rights movement, they know how to organize. Southern whites, without education, except in football, have apparently gone from being the next-best-hope of the country in the mid-1970s to becoming largely gun club members and bigots. The potential conflict between the two groups…angry African-Americans–justifiably so–and ignorant racists is being stirred up by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, the eccentric Glenn Beck and the hate spewing Michael Savage types has now gone beyond the point of simple racist ranting. There is no immediate conflict, but if there were, would anything good come from it? Would the first people to be shot, hacked to pieces, hanged or otherwise caught up in the violence they created be Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Joe Scarborough, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Neal Boortz, J. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, Mark Levin, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved and the other Right Wing propagandists stirring up Right Wing hatred among the tea baggers? probably not. Who knows? No matter what, we need legislation to shut down their incendiary speech, causing so much violence. We have too many other problems to worry about. We don’t have time to wonder whether the military will be forced to put down some tin-pot rebellion from a group of racists. As far as the Hardin, Montana situation goes, apparently the state is investigating. The Xe people say that this is not one of their divisions, but others claim that the head of American Police Force was or is a member of Blackwater. Headquartered in California, where Blackwater was trying to set up shop with another militia, APF supposedly has a contract with the town of Hardin to run some kind of detention facility there. It sounds very much like the Xe modus operandi. Hardin isn’t the only problem. After New Orleans was flooded, there were verified reports of many black SUVs with darkly tinted windows and heavily armed men dressed in black, roaming the streets, giving people orders. They were Blackwater men. So far as can be determined they were authorized by Dick Cheney but why they were there is still a mystery, but a dangerous one. We now know that Blackwater was assigned some targets abroad that they were to attempt to assassinate. But we also know that Cheney is said to have hired private military for actions here in the United States. These Right Wingers make no bones about their avowed use of gun violence here in the states. The editor and CEO, Joseph Farah, of WorldNetDaily.com, a openly Right Wing Internet propaganda organization, connected to the Republican Party has publicly stated, “Get armed and trained now. Don’t wait until it is too late.” If you are not familiar with the rise of the Nazis in Germany, you had better become familiar with it, and quickly. Brutal, thuggish groups that were never brought under control that we now refer to as the brown shirts, the S.A., were as much a part of the growth of the Nazis as were the speeches of Hitler or the radio propaganda of Herr Goebbels. The Right Wing in this country clearly has no desire any longer to become a force in the democratic process. They have given only lip service to bi-partisanship while totally…all of them…as a group voting “NO” on every piece of legislation that the People elected our current government to enact. They don’t want health care for the people. They don’t want to see the start of green energy manufacturing plants and an entire modernization of the electrical grid. They do not want to see the growth of flex-fuel automobiles or advanced battery technology. They didn’t even want to create jobs for the millions thrown out of work by the scandalous Bush financial catastrophe. But the Boehner and McConnell and Cheney forces, their 14,000-strong lobbyists, who have spent over $400 million–thus far–to try to defeat health care for all Americans…encourage Right Wing demonstrations, racists signs, radio talks of assassinations, rebellions and revolution. That is how the Nazis started. Exactly the same way. Accuse, accuse, accuse.. Try to discredit everything the government does so that you can create anarchy. Out of the chaos you create, make yourselves–in this case the Republican Right Wing–the friends of the average citizen, the majority of the people. Yes, it may seem laughable now…but they will try to take over by using propaganda to make themselves seem like the ones offering help. They will try to demonize the government and make the people forget who it was who proposed the legislation for fairness in health care, more jobs in new energy manufacturing, keeping jobs in the U.S., stopping the financial community from ruining lives, stopping as many foreclosures as possible…all these things they will try to shout over. And with all these talk show hosts they can do it. Above all, more than the huge money to Republicans from corporations, more than the control of media, more than the lies and propaganda…more than all of it…we need to shut down these private armies or we will be in grave danger of real revolution…men with guns. Remember the old saying, you can get a lot with a smile, but you get more with a smile and a gun. This is serious. Start looking into it and talking to your friends about it. Keep it in the forefront of the minds of your representatives. Not since the Civil War, not even the Civil Rights era (when we had all Americans in the military…our military…and no private armies) have we had such a risk of mass violence. We need to shut it down now. The government under Bush started funding these groups. The government under Obama can shut them down. Let’s get back to thinking “ballots” not “bullets.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2 November 5, 2010 What I read.... blah blah blah blah Right Wing NeoCons blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah black helicopters blah blah blah blah Bush blah blah blah blah Cheney blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Blackwater blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah tea bagging blah blah blah blah . Nice articlePlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #3 November 5, 2010 Two Hitler references in the very first post, nice! >>No matter what, we need legislation to shut down their incendiary speech, causing so much violence. Really, how do you respond to that? "Better stop those people from saying things that offend me. The rednecks might go and shoost someone" [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 November 5, 2010 QuoteWhat I read.... blah blah blah blah Right Wing NeoCons blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah black helicopters blah blah blah blah Bush blah blah blah blah Cheney blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Blackwater blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah tea bagging blah blah blah blah . Nice article SEIG HEIL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 November 5, 2010 Quote Two Hitler references in the very first post, nice! >>No matter what, we need legislation to shut down their incendiary speech, causing so much violence. Really, how do you respond to that? "Better stop those people from saying things that offend me. The rednecks might go and shoost someone" [/sarcasm] SEIG HEIL Come on.. I know you can say it.. try it on for size Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #6 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat I read.... blah blah blah blah Right Wing NeoCons blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah black helicopters blah blah blah blah Bush blah blah blah blah Cheney blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Blackwater blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah tea bagging blah blah blah blah . Nice article SEIG HEIL That would be "sieg" heil. Vowel pairs of i and e in German are typically pronounced as the name of the latter vowel in English - "ie" is pronounced "ee" and "ei" is pronounced "eye." Near as I can tell, "seig" is meaningless in German or English. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat I read.... blah blah blah blah Right Wing NeoCons blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah black helicopters blah blah blah blah Bush blah blah blah blah Cheney blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Blackwater blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah tea bagging blah blah blah blah . Nice article SEIG HEIL That would be "sieg" heil. Vowel pairs of i and e in German are typically pronounced as the name of the latter vowel in English - "ie" is pronounced "ee" and "ei" is pronounced "eye." Near as I can tell, "seig" is meaningless in German or English. Hey as long as the Norsefire types get it right.. its all good. "Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #8 November 5, 2010 Okay, I actually waded through the article. Assuming the parallel between Blackwater and the SA is valid, I would rate those entralled by our CIC with those smitten by Mao. Though I am not a huge fan of those behind the Hakenkreuz, when all is said and done they were an improvement over the Reds (by a long shot). BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 November 5, 2010 QuoteOkay, I actually waded through the article. Assuming the parallel between Blackwater and the SA is valid, I would rate those entralled by our CIC with those smitten by Mao. Though I am not a huge fan of those behind the Hakenkreuz, when all is said and done they were an improvement over the Reds (by a long shot). BSBD, Winsor Every time that someone compares The President to a commie or a socialist.. I really do woinder what the fuckl they were actually doing in school other than thinking about when the next party or the next football game was going to be, since its painfully obvious they were not paying attention in any of their classes. "Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #10 November 5, 2010 Chuckle for the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #11 November 5, 2010 Nows whos the conspiracy nut, eh? I do not discredit what you are saying, in fact I am inclined to beleive itm but i have not studied it enough. I am just amused that you are liely to get the same type of reaction to this as i am to my 9/11 posts. It intrigues me that you can be aware of the extent of the corrupt and cunning ways of blackwater and the other private military contractors, yet you are too oblivious to beleive that 9/11 was a false flag event to empower such entities. You are aware of blatant corruption and misuse of power yet you are just as willing to ignore it."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #12 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteOkay, I actually waded through the article. Assuming the parallel between Blackwater and the SA is valid, I would rate those entralled by our CIC with those smitten by Mao. Though I am not a huge fan of those behind the Hakenkreuz, when all is said and done they were an improvement over the Reds (by a long shot). BSBD, Winsor Every time that someone compares The President to a commie or a socialist.. I really do woinder what the fuckl they were actually doing in school other than thinking about when the next party or the next football game was going to be, since its painfully obvious they were not paying attention in any of their classes. "Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith" Compare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 November 5, 2010 QuoteNows whos the conspiracy nut, eh? I do not discredit what you are saying, in fact I am inclined to beleive itm but i have not studied it enough. I am just amused that you are liely to get the same type of reaction to this as i am to my 9/11 posts. It intrigues me that you can be aware of the extent of the corrupt and cunning ways of blackwater and the other private military contractors, yet you are too oblivious to beleive that 9/11 was a false flag event to empower such entities. You are aware of blatant corruption and misuse of power yet you are just as willing to ignore it. DUUUDE Blackwater exists and they have taken BILLIONS of dollars from the extreme rightists... the fascists on the extreme right are all too real. The Easter Bunny, Sasquatch and the nanothermite inserted into the anus of mind controlled right wing would be islamic terror pilots on the airplanes that flew into the WTC.. do not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #14 November 6, 2010 Quote The Easter Bunny, Sasquatch and the nanothermite inserted into the anus of mind controlled right wing would be islamic terror pilots on the airplanes that flew into the WTC.. do not ha ha, once again a nonsensical and ignorant comment, using straw man techniques. You are well aware of corruption but you are willing to ignore it when it suits you. foolish, but that is your perogative and you are welcome to it."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 November 6, 2010 QuoteQuote The Easter Bunny, Sasquatch and the nanothermite inserted into the anus of mind controlled right wing would be islamic terror pilots on the airplanes that flew into the WTC.. do not ha ha, once again a nonsensical and ignorant comment, using straw man techniques. You are well aware of corruption but you are willing to ignore it when it suits you. foolish, but that is your perogative and you are welcome to it. Sure I can see corruption when its there but when someone keeps coming up with cukoo for cocoa puff ideas about the jews who hired A Rabs to fly into the towers.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE..... Its your thang... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #16 November 6, 2010 Quote....The Easter Bunny, Sasquatch and the nanothermite inserted into the anus of mind controlled right wing would .... Careful. That could cause a paper cut!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #17 November 6, 2010 QuoteSure I can see corruption when its there but when someone keeps coming up with cukoo for cocoa puff ideas about the jews who hired A Rabs to fly into the towers.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE..... you come to some very childish concusions to make a point about nothing. you have words, I have evidnce, you ignore, and call names, I address and answer questions. you are quite childish for an old lady. is that normal in your kneck of the woods?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 November 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteSure I can see corruption when its there but when someone keeps coming up with cukoo for cocoa puff ideas about the jews who hired A Rabs to fly into the towers.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE..... you come to some very childish concusions to make a point about nothing. you have words, I have evidnce, you ignore, and call names, I address and answer questions. you are quite childish for an old lady. is that normal in your kneck of the woods? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You have conspiracy websites... you would not know evidence if it crawled up in your nether regions and went POOF. Face it... there are a bunch of whack jobs on those sites..trying to get their 15 minutes of notoriety... since infamy is far harder to come by.. and they sure as hell will never be famous. Do they have sillysybin mushrooms in your neck of the woods??? I know you want to believe that the US government is sooo evil.. better be careful... they might send the black heliocopeters after ya.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 November 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Okay, I actually waded through the article. Assuming the parallel between Blackwater and the SA is valid, I would rate those entralled by our CIC with those smitten by Mao. Though I am not a huge fan of those behind the Hakenkreuz, when all is said and done they were an improvement over the Reds (by a long shot). BSBD, Winsor Every time that someone compares The President to a commie or a socialist.. I really do woinder what the fuckl they were actually doing in school other than thinking about when the next party or the next football game was going to be, since its painfully obvious they were not paying attention in any of their classes. "Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith" Compare? FAIL I thought you had a better grasp on economic issues and differences in ideologyBut yet you seemed good with this Now we just have to wait and see which one of the Tea Dregs floats to the top to be the Neo-McCarthyist Commie hunter. I thought the GOP learned its lesson on that shit in the 1950's but I guess they did not after all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #20 November 6, 2010 QuoteFace it... there are a bunch of whack jobs on those sites..trying to get their 15 minutes of notoriety... since infamy is far harder to come by.. and they sure as hell will never be famous. Yes whackjobs that have been nominated for nobel peace prizes and named among the most important people of the century...yep simple whatckjobs. Read the original post/rant of this thread and tell me who is talking about government conspiracies. ypou are like a skitzo or something to-ing and fro-ing between your beleifs, at least I show some continuity."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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winsor 236 #22 November 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Okay, I actually waded through the article. Assuming the parallel between Blackwater and the SA is valid, I would rate those entralled by our CIC with those smitten by Mao. Though I am not a huge fan of those behind the Hakenkreuz, when all is said and done they were an improvement over the Reds (by a long shot). BSBD, Winsor Every time that someone compares The President to a commie or a socialist.. I really do woinder what the fuckl they were actually doing in school other than thinking about when the next party or the next football game was going to be, since its painfully obvious they were not paying attention in any of their classes. "Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith" Compare? FAIL I thought you had a better grasp on economic issues and differences in ideologyBut yet you seemed good with this You realize that the bulk of the indicators of "fascism" apply to just about any totalitarian regime, whether "left" or "right" wing? My view of Obama as a Fellow Traveler at the very least comes from statements he made regarding admiring Marxists at one time or another; reading Marx, Engels, Lenin et al. and spending time in Socialist Workers Paradaises as a youngster has left me with contempt for Socialism/Communism that is on a par with my loathing of Scientology or Islam. Fascism is mutant Socialism. Though used a a generic pejorative, "Fascism" was the brainchild of Benito Mussolini, a lifelong Socialist/Communist from strong Socialist/Communist roots. NSDAP was similarly "Socialist" in more than name. Rather a few luminaries in the Third Reich came from humble origins, and would never have risen to the same level of power under the Kaiser without a "von" in their name. Being a misanthrope I do not have to take sides. I find the religious dreck of the "right" as appalling as I do the least-common-denominator policies of the "left." Both are given to wholesale mediocrity, and neither group is very good at Arithmetic or History. Bush was a national embarrassment, being rather the Moron in Chief. While Obama is possessed of no uncertain political genius, his clarity of vision stops there and he is every bit as embarrassing as was his predecessor. While convinced he knows all the answers, he does not fully understand most of the questions. In any event, my observation of Obama's Marxist/Socialist leanings is merely from statements he has made. It is akin to noting that he plays golf upon occasion. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #23 November 6, 2010 Quote The day after Katrina..before “Brownie” and his bumbling staff then running FEMA could get moving, long before George W. Bush could get focused, 150 men in black, with body armor, carrying automatic weapons, pistols strapped to their waists and riding in black SUVs with darkly tinted windows were roaming the streets of New Orleans. They were Blackwater. It is said that they were initially paid about $400,000 to show up to protect private property and government locations. They sound very efficient and they certainly sound as though they were professional. Eventually, thanks to the Bush Administration and their friends, they were able to earn over $33 million for “protection” in New Orleans and elsewhere. On whose authority were they there? Homeland Security, they maintained. Others suspected Cheney. I'm on an email list that received a query from blackwater asking for experienced operators to come help in NOLA post-katrina. The described mission was protecting communications hubs (at the request of city officials) and harrah's casino (at the request of harrah's). I ignored the query because I'm not an "experienced operator", but it's interesting to recall that email with the added context of this article.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #24 November 6, 2010 Blackwater are/were partiots, that fight the way we need to fight...Not purty, but they get the job done... So how do you feel about this Civiliian Army Obama intends to put together? (that the Ok for slipped threw with the healthcare bill) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #25 November 6, 2010 QuoteBlackwater are/were partiots, that fight the way we need to fight...Not purty, but they get the job done... The problem I have with these mercenary groups is oversight and accountability. Who do they answer to? DLJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 1 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0