beware of TSA

[roostnureye 2]

i am a govt employee for the port authority, i just want to let you know the TSA has stooped to a new low.

i had to have a 10yr fbi background check before being employed.

so today i am going from airside(restricted area) to the terminal(sterile area not secure) so when i come throught the door a TSA agent was on the other side. made me empty my pockets then performed a very intrusive search, putting his hand inside of my shirt and inside of my pants, touching my genetials, then on to the inside of my legs once again touching my genetials, after i told them i believed they were violating my rights.

my job entails me coming and going from secure to non secure areas all day long, am i just suppose to accept someone touching me innapropriatly all day every day i have to come to work???

btw i carry a knife and other "tools" when i work, this was of no concern. i can bypass any security checkpoint with my credentials, so i dont have to hold up normal passengers, or alarm them because of tools i carry.

i just dont know how far the TSA is willing to go when it comes to violating your morals and personal rights.
im sure that this form of search will be reaching the public in the near future, so be aware nothing is sacred anymore.

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[airdvr 210]

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am i just suppose to accept someone touching me innapropriatly all day every day i have to come to work???

I'm so sorry but my first thought was to wonder whther you were a male or female and was it a male or female doing all of this innapropriate touching.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[skipbelt 0]

all bureaucracies evolve this way . TSA should have the goal of identifying terrorists . not treating all americans as potential terrorists . as for the innapropriate touching , former priest ?

[roostnureye 2]

does it matter? i am a male and had a male search me, i would have preffered a female but that didnt matter to them. nor did the fact that i refused them touching my junk. they do what they want and dont care about your right or liberties.

my supervisors were notified and told me in the future to refuse and have them contact my manager. total disrespect to the american people.

if i am legally allowed to carry a weapon in a secure area whay should i be subject to this? if they arent looking for weapons why should they violate me in this manner? better yet would you like to have your genetials checked multiple times throughout your day at work? i think not!

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[rhaig 0]

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all bureaucracies evolve this way . TSA should have the goal of identifying terrorists . not treating all americans as potential terrorists . as for the innapropriate touching , former priest ?

hey... padre has gotta work somewhere...

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Rob

[billvon 3,120]

>nor did the fact that i refused them touching my junk.

If you refused and they forced themselves on you, you have a solid court case on your hands. If you said "OK, whatever," you don't.

>f i am legally allowed to carry a weapon in a secure area whay should i
>be subject to this?

That doesn't follow. It can be legal to carry a weapon somewhere and still be illegal to carry, say, explosives.

>better yet would you like to have your genetials checked multiple
>times throughout your day at work?

Next time they try, refuse in clear language and have a witness. If they still do it, you will win the resulting court case.

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better yet would you like to have your genetials checked multiple times throughout your day at work? i think not!

I think that would depend highly on the job... a porn start might not have an issue with their genitials being "examined" throughout the day...

I will however add that even they probably wouldn't enjoy it in this context... Alas, the prospect of comercial flying just keeps getting worse and worse...

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[rhaig 0]

I wish I had the same resources so I could pull this off.

http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstuff/penniphile/roadpennfederalvip.html

fuckin' TSA

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Rob

[Andy9o8 2]

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>nor did the fact that i refused them touching my junk.

If you refused and they forced themselves on you, you have a solid court case on your hands. If you said "OK, whatever," you don't. .

The former: yes. The latter: not necessarily, if it can be established that it was acquiescence under duress.

[skipbelt 0]

i don't like the TSA , but i must admit , the worse they treat the american public , the better i do. wait until the TSA starts load organising !

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i don't like the TSA , but i must admit , the worse they treat the american public , the better i do. wait until the TSA starts load organising !

I don't blame you... I would probably feel the same way if I was in your shoes...

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[roostnureye 2]

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>nor did the fact that i refused them touching my junk.

If you refused and they forced themselves on you, you have a solid court case on your hands. If you said "OK, whatever," you don't.

>f i am legally allowed to carry a weapon in a secure area whay should i
>be subject to this?

That doesn't follow. It can be legal to carry a weapon somewhere and still be illegal to carry, say, explosives.

>better yet would you like to have your genetials checked multiple
>times throughout your day at work?

Next time they try, refuse in clear language and have a witness. If they still do it, you will win the resulting court case.

hey billvon, i definatly said to them in plain english "NO this is a violation of my rights and my privacy." still got molested, so who should i turn to? the aclu is in bed with tsa, private lawyer? i dont know where to go, thats why im turning to my skydiving family. and there were 3 tsa agents present and i got all their names

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[billvon 3,120]

>hey billvon, i definatly said to them in plain english "NO this is a violation
>of my rights and my privacy." still got molested, so who should i turn to?

1) Get a witness next time
2) The local police. Call them and report an assault. Be willing to stay there as long as it takes.
3) The ACLU lives for this stuff. Give them a call.

[roostnureye 2]

thanks billvon

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Are you a union member? If so, they should have grievance procedures and attorneys for this sort of thing.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[roostnureye 2]

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Are you a union member? If so, they should have grievance procedures and attorneys for this sort of thing.

no im not a union member

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[JohnnyMarko 1]

beware of trashing your employer on the internet

[Andy9o8 2]

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beware of trashing your employer on the internet

Yup I thunk the same thing when I first read the OP. Amazing how many people on here do that.

[JohnnyMarko 1]

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beware of trashing your employer on the internet

Yup I thunk the same thing when I first read the OP. Amazing how many people on here do that.

I managed a locally owned coffee shop for a while and I fired 2 girls for posting crap on their Facebooks about how much they hated working there and other details. Gave them a warning, still kept doing it, buh bye. Corporations watch these things too.

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beware of trashing your employer on the internet

Yup I thunk the same thing when I first read the OP. Amazing how many people on here do that.

I guess I'm missing something... the OP works for the Port Athority and is expressing his concern with the TSA...

other then the fact they're both government agencies (one Federal and one State) I don't understand how he is complaining about his employer... in fact the OP stated that his Boss agreed that the TSA Screening was excessive...

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[Andy9o8 2]

You don't think the Port Authority needs to work closely and maintain harmonious relations with the TSA? Of course it does. The TSA can be a friend to the PA or it can be an enemy.

Rule #1: Don't embarrass your boss.
Rule #2: Don't embarrass your boss's friends.
Rule #3: Don't embarrass your boss's enemies.

I support the OP's complaint, but he risks putting himself in a pickle for lack of discretion. The road to Hades is lined with good intentions.

[skipbelt 0]

it was a general warning , not specific to this case , at least that's how i read it. it is good advice , thanks JB !

[roostnureye 2]

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beware of trashing your employer on the internet

Yup I thunk the same thing when I first read the OP. Amazing how many people on here do that.

I managed a locally owned coffee shop for a while and I fired 2 girls for posting crap on their Facebooks about how much they hated working there and other details. Gave them a warning, still kept doing it, buh bye. Corporations watch these things too.

its not my employer i have a problem with, i love my job read again. its the tsa.

and you my friend should leave employees alone outside of the workplace. peoples personal lives are THEIR lives not YOURS.

if they were telling people their opinions while you are paying them that is a different story completly.

everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion outside of the workplace whether you agree or not, we are protected by the constitution.

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[kallend 2,151]

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i am a govt employee for the port authority, i just want to let you know the TSA has stooped to a new low.

i had to have a 10yr fbi background check before being employed.

so today i am going from airside(restricted area) to the terminal(sterile area not secure) so when i come throught the door a TSA agent was on the other side. made me empty my pockets then performed a very intrusive search, putting his hand inside of my shirt and inside of my pants, touching my genetials, then on to the inside of my legs once again touching my genetials, after i told them i believed they were violating my rights.

my job entails me coming and going from secure to non secure areas all day long, am i just suppose to accept someone touching me innapropriatly all day every day i have to come to work???

btw i carry a knife and other "tools" when i work, this was of no concern. i can bypass any security checkpoint with my credentials, so i dont have to hold up normal passengers, or alarm them because of tools i carry.

i just dont know how far the TSA is willing to go when it comes to violating your morals and personal rights.
im sure that this form of search will be reaching the public in the near future, so be aware nothing is sacred anymore.

This is part of their new pat-down procedure. They're setting people up to finally 'accept' their virtual strip-search machines when they put them in all over the country. Those are still 'optional' so you can either walk through their microwave oven or get an extremely invasive pat-down with a side of junk grabbing. If they don't have back-scatter you don't have a choice except not to fly.

Or buy your own plane... I did.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[skipbelt 0]

what plane did you buy ?