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Does Big Science Want a Change in Congress?

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I have yet to read the link but, what I found interesting was the term "big science". Very similar to what the left does to sectors of business. Big oil, big insurance (add your own)

In any event I like it

Throw their shit back at them (like I have not done that before)

Anyway, the warmists are now big science to me:)
Let the fun begin

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/31/does-big-science-want-change-congress/
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Does Big Science Want a Change in Congress?



This is really where the conversation is going; Big Science vs. Big Luddite?



....or big Mod?
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Unlike Big Tech, which has a record of making campaign contributions mostly to Democrats, Big Science is more evenly divided, Zafarnia told FoxNews.com.



I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.



Then what is?
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Well, the whole point of the "Big Whatever" pejoratives are that the industries supposedly have so much money that they buy politicians' support so they can keep doing whatever it is they're doing to make the money. It suggests an, at the very least tacit, coalition of large companies or organizations. Hence "Big".

Disparate scientific organizations chasing government funding and often times competing with one another for it doesn't seem to fit the profile.

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Unlike Big Tech, which has a record of making campaign contributions mostly to Democrats, Big Science is more evenly divided, Zafarnia told FoxNews.com.



I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.


Then what is?


So being the direct beneficiary of BIG COAL for your livleyhood has zero effect on your posts.. right???:ph34r::ph34r:

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Unlike Big Tech, which has a record of making campaign contributions mostly to Democrats, Big Science is more evenly divided, Zafarnia told FoxNews.com.



I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.


Then what is?


So being the direct beneficiary of BIG COAL for your livleyhood has zero effect on your posts.. right???:ph34r::ph34r:


:D

I help to provide delivery of "big coal". I really dont care who produces it

Next?
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>I help to provide delivery of "big coal".

Explains your position on climate change. As Upton Sinclair once said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it." You've made an admirable attempt at keeping your job so far.

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>I help to provide delivery of "big coal".

Explains your position on climate change. As Upton Sinclair once said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it." You've made an admirable attempt at keeping your job so far.



Nope

Dont explain shit

I keep my job because I take care of my customers

But I use common sense too

Something you and yours need to work on
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>Dont explain shit

You seem really angry and bitter tonight. There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your job - and it explains your position on things. Lots of people do it, so you're in good company.



Projecting again tonight I see

No anger here sir

Tough times for you and yours

I do understand your projections however and I do feel for you






a little
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>Dont explain shit

You seem really angry and bitter tonight. There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your job - and it explains your position on things. Lots of people do it, so you're in good company.



This post came across to me as more mean than you probably intended.

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>Dont explain shit

You seem really angry and bitter tonight. There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your job - and it explains your position on things. Lots of people do it, so you're in good company.



This post came across to me as more mean than you probably intended.



that's ok... don't you know that Mods aren't capable of personal attacks? :)
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I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.




There is probably "Big Science" on all sides of any issue. Big corporations have battalions of scientists to do "research" to prove the businesses point of view. These scientists are like mercenaries. They work for whoever pays them. Cigarette companies have "scientific" reports that say tobacco is not harmful. BP probably have a report that says that crude oil is a naturally occuring substance and therefore should be good for the ecco system of the Gulf. Figures don't lie but liers sure do figure. On all sides.
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Unlike Big Tech, which has a record of making campaign contributions mostly to Democrats, Big Science is more evenly divided, Zafarnia told FoxNews.com.



I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.



Most definitely agree. Big science (if such a thing can even be said to exist) is made up of too many factions that will pursue evidence and the truths behind it to ever behave badly as a whole. I do not see even a simple majority of scientists ignoring solid evidence because it doesn't fit into a politicized agenda.

Essentially, determining facts not only dictates their agenda, it is their agenda. What the rest of Those Darn Humans do with those facts (their application) is simply not the job of science - that's for the technicians and engineers hired by private and public sector business.

Maybe that is what the OP really refers to; the employees of the corporatocracy and bureacracy that actually decide what to do once scientists provide them with information about the natural world.
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Unlike Big Tech, which has a record of making campaign contributions mostly to Democrats, Big Science is more evenly divided, Zafarnia told FoxNews.com.



I'm not sure "Big Science" is cohesive enough to warrant the epithet.



Most definitely agree. Big science (if such a thing can even be said to exist) is made up of too many factions that will pursue evidence and the truths behind it to ever behave badly as a whole. I do not see even a simple majority of scientists ignoring solid evidence because it doesn't fit into a politicized agenda.

Essentially, determining facts not only dictates their agenda, it is their agenda. What the rest of Those Darn Humans do with those facts (their application) is simply not the job of science - that's for the technicians and engineers hired by private and public sector business.

Maybe that is what the OP really refers to; the employees of the corporatocracy and bureacracy that actually decide what to do once scientists provide them with information about the natural world.



Exactly

How do you think we got to this AGW bs?

Sure as hell not through pure science
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>Dont explain shit

You seem really angry and bitter tonight. There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your job - and it explains your position on things. Lots of people do it, so you're in good company.



Agreed. Indeed, we see both sides with jobs, livelihoods, etc., invested in the debate.


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I have recently considered many of the posts on this forum. There are some favored charities of mine. For example:
(1) The Miami Project
(2) The Muscular Dystrophy Association
(3) The ALS Therapy Institute.

It occurred to me that the government is funding research on the issues of paralysis, MD and Lou Gehrig's disease. Why are these companies funding research when the government is already doing it? Indeed, Harley Davidson has donated over $3 million to help Jerry's kids in 2010.

Harley Davidson is a proponent of two-stroke technology. Obviously, they are positioning their research for some reason or another. Thousands of people have died on Harleys.

Thus, I have decided that the people on here make sense - "Only government funding is legitimate." Therefore, the MDA can go fuck itself. Any cure for Muscular Dystrophy will come from the government. If Merck were to develop an effective treatment or cure I would have to conclude that there's a bad reason behind it and therefore oppose any and all drug therapies available.

I've had a change of heart. Any science not funded by the government should be shut down. The government always is altruistic while private funding is nefarious.


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