I wonder if I'm entitled to BP cleanup money.

[turtlespeed 226]

I was at the gulf this past weekend and drove my truck out on the beach.

Left the truck there for 4 or five hours and now the ocean spary and the wind has coated it with oil. Nasty Stuff - Windshield Wipers can't get it off.

Should I make a claim to BP about needing to have my truck detailed again?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rehmwa 2]

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Should I make a claim to BP about needing to have my truck detailed again?

nope - call your congressman or even the pres about it and let him get some mileage out of your personal tragedy

never waste a tragedy by doing it yourself

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[skyrider 0]

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I was at the gulf this past weekend and drove my truck out on the beach.

Left the truck there for 4 or five hours and now the ocean spary and the wind has coated it with oil. Nasty Stuff - Windshield Wipers can't get it off.

Should I make a claim to BP about needing to have my truck detailed again?

first contact FEMA.....they will send you food and vouchers..

[billvon 3,120]

>Should I make a claim to BP about needing to have my truck detailed
>again?

?? I think you owe them an apology for stealing their oil!

[skipbelt 0]

obuma walked all the way to the blowout site and plugged the leak, detailing your car should be a snap. and he managed to blame it on bush and how bush killed N.O. with katrina. obuma is your best bet !

[turtlespeed 226]

I just wanted to see what it would be like to be a liberal for a while and force someone else to pay for something that I wanted.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,120]

>I just wanted to see what it would be like to be a liberal for a while and force
>someone else to pay for something that I wanted.

I see. I guess it's time to go back to being a conservative and forcing people to pay for extra wars, border security, military systems and entitlement programs.

[skipbelt 0]

conservatives are in favor of entitlements ?

[billvon 3,120]

>conservatives are in favor of entitlements ?

Yep. Just try to cut veteran's hospital funding. You'll get called all sorts of names.

[rehmwa 2]

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>conservatives are in favor of entitlements ?

Yep. Just try to cut veteran's hospital funding. You'll get called all sorts of names.

liberals are against veteran's hospital funding?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 3,120]

>liberals are against veteran's hospital funding?

He's a liberal?

[rushmc 23]

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I was at the gulf this past weekend and drove my truck out on the beach.

Left the truck there for 4 or five hours and now the ocean spary and the wind has coated it with oil. Nasty Stuff - Windshield Wipers can't get it off.

Should I make a claim to BP about needing to have my truck detailed again?

I would not call anybody

The gov and the EPA would classify it at an envio hazard and you may never see it again

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rehmwa 2]

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The gov and the EPA would classify it at an envio hazard and you may never see it again

but, that would downgrade it's tradein value and you can reclassify it as a "clunker" - and if you're one of the first 1000 people to trade it in as a "clunker", and you give the government all your credit card numbers - you might win a 'prize'.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[StreetScooby 5]

Though we've never met, you've always struck me as a oily kind of guy

We are all engines of karma

[skipbelt 0]

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Though we've never met, you've always struck me as a oily kind of guy

the oily boid catcher the woim !

[Amazon 7]

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Though we've never met, you've always struck me as a oily kind of guy

the oily boid catcher the woim !

Oh I am pretty sure there is a catcher there..... but that ain't really a worm... even IF it looks like one.

[BIGUN 1,488]

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are in favor of entitlements ?

Yep. Just try to cut veteran's hospital funding. You'll get called all sorts of names.

Please don't commingle a Veteran's "Benefits" with "Entitlements."
And, please don't confuse "Entitlements" with "Welfare."

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[billvon 3,120]

>Please don't commingle a Veteran's "Benefits" with "Entitlements."

From the list of entitlement programs from the US Budget of 1992: (in millions)

Medicaid $118,067
AFDC 24,923
Food Stamps 24,918
Supplemental Security Income 22,774
Lower income housing asst. 12,307
Veterans medical care 7,838
Social Services (Title 20) 5,419
Pell Grants 5,374

[BIGUN 1,488]

>From the list of entitlement programs from the US Budget of 1992: (in millions)

Ahhh, the year we began to "label" everything as "Entitlements."

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Historically, Medicare and Social Security have been presented to the public as two separate programs. Recently, policymakers have begun to use the term entitlements to refer to these two programs, as well as a number of other federal programs. Because the term entitlement is now commonly used in public discourse about the nation’s budgetary problems, our survey examined how well people understand this term and how they relate it to specific federal government programs.

The survey divided knowledge of the term entitlement into two parts (Exhibit 1). In the first part, respondents were read four broad descriptions and asked whether or not each one was an entitlement. Two-thirds (68 percent) of respondents said that basic rights guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution were entitlements.

This answer reflects the broad definition that many Americans associate with the term. On each of the other three items, about six in ten respondents gave the correct response. Tax credits for working poor persons were correctly identified as an entitlement by 61 percent, and 57 percent correctly categorized federal government programs in which by law certain persons are guaranteed cash payments or health insurance benefits. Fifty-seven percent said correctly that tax deductions for wealthy persons were not entitlements.

In the second part, we read respondents a list of eleven specific federal government programs and tax deductions. Majorities correctly identified all seven programs that were in fact entitlements according to the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform.

About three-fourths of respondents named Social Security, veterans’ benefits, and Medicare as entitlements, and two-thirds listed Medicaid and unemployment compensation. Majorities also characterized federally subsidized loans for college students and food stamps as entitlements.

However, majorities also incorrectly identified Head Start and tax deductions for mortgage payments as entitlements, and a plurality considered welfare under the new welfare reform law to be an entitlement. Only one in four knew that Head Start and welfare under the new reform law were not entitlements and one-third knew that tax deductions for mortgage payments were not.

SOURCE: http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/16/5/111.pdf
AUTHORS/CONTRIBUTORS: Bob Blendon is professor of health policy and political analysis at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government and the Harvard School of Public Health. John Benson is deputy director of the Harvard Program on Public Opinion and Health/Social Policy, Harvard School of Public Health. Mollyann Brodie is senior researcher and director of special projects, The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, in Menlo Park, California. Mario Brossard is assistant director of polling at The Washington Post. Drew Altman is president of the Kaiser Family Foundation. Richard Morin is director of polling at TheWashington Post.

From my centrist conservative perspective, the liberals can roll up all government programs and label them as "Entitlements" if it makes them "feel better." However, 1) Veterans have benefits, 2) Entitlement programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are programs in which one is "supposed" to pay into, and 3) Those programs that others pay for - are Welfare.

Now, I'm not opposed to Welfare as a gap measure using about 34 States form of a Performance-Based Model; but am opposed to it as a way of life; UNLESS, one is disabled and not a Veteran and then we have a moral, social and ethical responsibility to help them as much as possible (so long as said disability was not received as the result of criminal activity).

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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Now, I'm not opposed to Welfare as a gap measure using about 34 States form of a Performance-Based Model; but am opposed to it as a way of life; UNLESS, one is disabled and not a Veteran and then we have a moral, social and ethical responsibility to help them as much as possible (so long as said disability was not received as the result of criminal activity).

In a lot of circles, that would get you labeled a real pinko!
At least join the ACLU. Here, I'll get you an application...

[skipbelt 0]

i think you're wrong , but it seems like we'll never see eye to eye . no loss on my part.

[BIGUN 1,488]

I've been called worse.
Being a member of the ACLU is not exclusive to liberals.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.