Tea Party

[DanG 1]

I'm offended by the "Typical Liberal" picture. My glasses are not nearly that thick.

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[billvon 3,100]

>they want fiscal responsibility , doesn't make them stupid !

Agreed; that doesn't make them stupid. The fact that they want to keep "government out of their Medicare" makes them stupid. Here's a great summary of their position on how much government spending they want:

"That’s a conundrum, isn’t it? I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security. I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind."

When asking simple questions confuses them enough that they abandon their Tea Party positions, then those positions are not very well thought out ones.

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>they want fiscal responsibility , doesn't make them stupid !

Agreed; that doesn't make them stupid. The fact that they want to keep "government out of their Medicare" makes them stupid. Here's a great summary of their position on how much government spending they want:

"That’s a conundrum, isn’t it? I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security. I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind."

When asking simple questions confuses them enough that they abandon their Tea Party positions, then those positions are not very well thought out ones.

nice...

let's hold up the interview with the people on the street who said they voted for obama because he was black.

or the ones that said they voted for obama because he wanted to extend the war in Iraq, and ban gay marriage.

let's take one example of stupidity and plaster the entire group with it. isn't that what you're doing here bill?

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A world of difference between making people "love" gays and providing the same basic rights to a group of people that everyone else in our country enjoys.

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I love the tea party, they provide top notch entertainment at a time when our country needs it. They are some of the dumbest fucks I have ever seen.

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[billvon 3,100]

>let's hold up the interview with the people on the street who said they voted
>for obama because he was black.

He'd be a racist guy. If the "Anti Tea Party" had that policy, then they'd be racist as well.

>or the ones that said they voted for obama because he wanted to
>extend the war in Iraq, and ban gay marriage.

They'd be stupid. Again, if the "Anti Tea Party" had that policy, then that would be a really stupid party position.

>let's take one example of stupidity and plaster the entire group with it.
>isn't that what you're doing here bill?

Nope. Everyone in the Tea Party isn't stupid, nor are all their positions stupid. However, their absolute and very vocal opposition to government spending on health and welfare, combined with their very commonly expressed desire to "keep government out of Medicare and Social Security" is contradictory and poorly thought out, and makes a bit of a joke of their position on the matter.

Like I said, wanting fiscal responsibility doesn't make them stupid. Wanting to cut spending - and then opposing government cuts to that spending - does.

[kallend 2,144]

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they want fiscal responsibility , doesn't make them stupid !

They CLAIM to want fiscal responsibility, but so far I've seen no concrete proposals that they are willing to stand behind. I think the rank and file "members" are being bamboozled into supporting something that is, in fact, contrary to their interests because it makes a good sound bite.

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[billvon 3,100]

Yep. And when asked for specifics, they generally say "cut wasteful government spending" or "cut entitlement programs." But, apparently, not Medicare, Social Security, defense spending, border spending, roads, veteran's hospitals, or any other of their favorite programs. When pressed they generally can't name any programs at all, or name programs that would save us a hundred million or something.

In other words, they're pretty much like Democrats in that regard. They like the idea of cutting spending but can't actually bring themselves to cut anything.

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Fiscal responsibility
Free markets
Limited government

Those things are sooooo stupid............

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[kallend 2,144]

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Fiscal responsibility
Free markets
Limited government

Those things are sooooo stupid............

Free markets brought us the great depression, the recent housing meltdown and current recession. Limited government allowed it to happen.

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Fiscal responsibility
Free markets
Limited government
Those things are sooooo stupid............

Free markets brought us the great depression, the recent housing meltdown and current recession. Limited government allowed it to happen.

credit reinvestment act !

[billvon 3,100]

>credit reinvestment act !

Commodity Futures Modernization Act! Enron loophole! CDS opacity!

[airdvr 210]

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Fiscal responsibility
Free markets
Limited government

Those things are sooooo stupid............

Free markets brought us the great depression, the recent housing meltdown and current recession. Limited government allowed it to happen.

You really believe the government would be better at this kind of thing don't you?

Please don't dent the planet.

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when asked for specifics, they generally say "cut wasteful government spending" or "cut entitlement programs." But, apparently, not Medicare, Social Security, defense spending, border spending, roads, veteran's hospitals, or any other of their favorite programs. When pressed they generally can't name any programs at all, or name programs that would save us a hundred million or something.

That's because what they really mean are things like welfare and food stamps. As in, Reagan's "welfare queen". As in, Gingrich's "the party of food stamps". As in, plausibly-deniable "code".

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>Thie rgoal is honorable, I am amazed that more people don;t care about
>what is happening to this country . . .

Such people exist. They elected Obama in the last election cycle.

Now that is the best laugh I have had all day!

So your saying socialism is the best way?

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BTW, if your going to quote me, please fix my spelling and typos...

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>Thie rgoal is honorable, I am amazed that more people don;t care about
>what is happening to this country . . .

Such people exist. They elected Obama in the last election cycle.

Now that is the best laugh I have had all day!

So your saying socialism is the best way?

Show me one just ONE example where Obama is a socialist, do you know what a socialist is? Give me a break man.

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>Thie rgoal is honorable, I am amazed that more people don;t care about
>what is happening to this country . . .

Such people exist. They elected Obama in the last election cycle.

Now that is the best laugh I have had all day!

So your saying socialism is the best way?

Show me one just ONE example where Obama is a socialist, do you know what a socialist is? Give me a break man.

The HC bill for one

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Thie rgoal is honorable, I am amazed that more people don;t care about
>what is happening to this country . . .

Such people exist. They elected Obama in the last election cycle.

Now that is the best laugh I have had all day!

So your saying socialism is the best way?

Show me one just ONE example where Obama is a socialist, do you know what a socialist is? Give me a break man.

The HC bill for one

Okay, what about the health care bill is socialist?

B.A.S.E. #1734

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>Thie rgoal is honorable, I am amazed that more people don;t care about
>what is happening to this country . . .

Such people exist. They elected Obama in the last election cycle.

Now that is the best laugh I have had all day!

So your saying socialism is the best way?

Show me one just ONE example where Obama is a socialist, do you know what a socialist is? Give me a break man.

The HC bill for one

Okay, what about the health care bill is socialist?

Well let's just go with the most obvious. A law requiring people to purchase a product.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[billvon 3,100]

>So your saying socialism is the best way?

Not at all. Just had a good laugh at the partisan hacks on here; amusing to see people react so strongly to their own propaganda when it's applied to the other side.

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we need to spread the wealth -obuma- right from the horses...

[kallend 2,144]

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Fiscal responsibility
Free markets
Limited government

Those things are sooooo stupid............

Free markets brought us the great depression, the recent housing meltdown and current recession. Limited government allowed it to happen.

You really believe the government would be better at this kind of thing don't you?

Nope. I am not a socialist. OTOH I see that unregulated free markets are not the panacea that some of you seem to think they are. AIG cost us what, $80Billion, because they were allowed to do stuff that should have been properly regulated. Gramm, Leach and Bliley have a lot to answer for.

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[DaVinci 0]

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Of course. They are on the other side, so they are all clueless idiots.

You started this line of BS... Don't blame me for giving you what you tried to give others.

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Congratulations, you voted for Kodos.

Congratulations, you voted for the guy that didn't know there were only 50 States!

[DaVinci 0]

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When asking simple questions confuses them enough that they abandon their Tea Party positions, then those positions are not very well thought out ones.

You mean like these folks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg

"Are you more for Obama because he is prolife, or because he thinks we should stay in Iraq and finish this?"

"I think because our troops should stay in Iraq and finish this war"

Yeah, your guys seem to have the market on intellect.

[DaVinci 0]

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Free markets brought us the great depression, the recent housing meltdown and current recession. Limited government allowed it to happen.

It is not a free market when the Govt steps in to prevent it from failing.

The housing market was forced to lend to people who were questionable by the Community Reinvestment Act which was signed by Carter and given more power by Clinton. "Robert Rubin, the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, under President Clinton, explained that this was in line with President Clinton's strategy to "deal with the problems of the inner city and distressed rural communities"."

And then you wanna talk about the mortgage meltdown???? You know that the Govt (Christopher Dodd and Charles E. Schumer and backed by Clinton) amended the "Federal Deposit Insurance Act" and that the act allowed banks to merge or expand into other types of financial institutions.

So the Govts fingerprints are ALL over the market, housing and banks. And that clearly didn't work out.