mirage62 0 #1 October 20, 2010 Really what will be the common excuse here from the folks that just believe that everything that has been done has been so great? It appears that a lot of the country doesn't think so. I'm all for a divided goverment....bring on the grid lock baby.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #2 October 20, 2010 If Republicans take control of Congress, then they will blame the Democrats for the recession and take credit for the recovery. If Democrats retain control of Congress, then they will blame the Republicans for the recession and take credit for the recovery. It looks like a takeover is unlikely; not enough seats up for grabs. So the Democrats will claim victory and claim that the recovery was their doing. And two years from now, everyone will believe them, just as they are believing all the fearmongering coming out of the GOP now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 October 20, 2010 I disagree. It should be All Of The Above - they won't just stick to one. It's more complex than that. Republicans, when they regain the House and Senate, will stop the spending which will scare the investors and drive the stockmarket down. If they don't spending will keep going on the out of control schedule it is on now. After the stockmarket goes back down, then the democrats will blame the recession and the non recovery and the loss of the tripple A rating on the conservatives. I just hope that the US people are smart enough this time not to listen to their scare tactics and let the conservatives pull us out of this mess.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #4 October 20, 2010 >Republicans, when they regain the House and Senate, will stop the spending . . . Of COURSE they won't. Politicians spend. Republicans spend on wars, and the military, and vet's hospitals, and roads. Democrats spend on welfare, and on health care, and on alternative transportation programs. The last 20 years have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. The even scarier thing is that the Republicans get control, keep spending like they did last time - AND lower taxes. Nothing will bankrupt us sooner. >If they don't spending will keep going on the out of control schedule it is >on now. Exactly. They'll claim it's not out of control, that they will get control of it REAL SOON NOW, and meanwhile we have to lower taxes, because that will somehow increase revenues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 October 20, 2010 for the political spectators, it would be entertaining. it will be blame all around, as internal divisions will spring back up. Pelosi will lose the Minority Seat. Likely the same for Reid, though it seems less likely they'll lose the Senate and perhaps less likely that Reid will still be around anyway. if the Tea Party wins anything, there will be some good drama there as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #6 October 21, 2010 i might need at least 2 votes ! it's one of the few ways i'm like a lib ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #7 October 23, 2010 not if his worshippers have something to do with it...http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101021/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #8 October 26, 2010 Jesus?...http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/oct/24/afl-cio-official-jesus-couldnt-do-anything-more-ob/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 26, 2010 QuoteJesus?... http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/oct/24/afl-cio-official-jesus-couldnt-do-anything-more-ob/ Nobody's gonna click on it, Skip. Got something on your mind? Use your words, and your inside voice, and tell us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 October 26, 2010 Dont look now but, I think Andy9o8 is stalking you this morningI wonder how many times he will have to say no one will click on your link before he believes it? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #11 October 26, 2010 Regardless of who wins what or who controls what, the 2 parties and all of their minions will blame each other for all that is not well, and each will take credit for all that is well. It's just that simple because the simple majority of people (at a minimum) are just that simple." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #12 October 26, 2010 The real question is are politicians mature enough to deal with a divided government now that the dems keeping the house is virtually impossible. It's a opportunity to have a productive bipartisan government...but my money is on it turns into a 2 year pissing contest and the American people continue to suffer for it.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 October 26, 2010 QuoteThe real question is are politicians mature enough to deal with a divided government now that the dems keeping the house is virtually impossible. It's a opportunity to have a productive bipartisan government...but my money is on it turns into a 2 year pissing contest and the American people continue to suffer for it. The less that gets "done" in Washington the better off we all are"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #14 October 26, 2010 QuoteThe less that gets "done" in Washington the better off we all are While that is true in a lot of circumstances, if I was a small business owner right now I would really like to know what my tax rate next year is going to be. Budgetary issues like that really concern me with a stalemated congress. There is also the issue of what will happen if congress can't get together to fix obamacare, fixing social security, addressing our trade imbalance, the list goes on. While the government that governs best governs least, our status quo right now isn't sustainable.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe less that gets "done" in Washington the better off we all are While that is true in a lot of circumstances, if I was a small business owner right now I would really like to know what my tax rate next year is going to be. Budgetary issues like that really concern me with a stalemated congress. There is also the issue of what will happen if congress can't get together to fix obamacare, fixing social security, addressing our trade imbalance, the list goes on. While the government that governs best governs least, our status quo right now isn't sustainable. Agreed But we do need to remember is that stuff getting done that has gotten un here So, there is some un doing that needs to get done for sure"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #16 October 26, 2010 there are over 20,000 laws on the books , too many are obsolete or unfunded mandates , the focus should be on paring them down for awhile . besides government is divided by definition and design . the more integrated the worse for the people ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #17 October 28, 2010 this is probably bush's fault...http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fbi-investigates-who-is-targeting-u-s-military-installations-in-n-virginia/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #18 October 28, 2010 Quotethere are over 20,000 laws on the books , too many are obsolete or unfunded mandates , the focus should be on paring them down for awhile . besides government is divided by definition and design . the more integrated the worse for the people ! My God, skipbelt just posted his own opinion without a link to an unrelated story. The end is nigh! - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #19 October 28, 2010 Quotethis is probably bush's fault... http://www.theblaze.com/...tions-in-n-virginia/ Whew. Back to normal. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #20 October 28, 2010 Not a bad opinion, either. A project to determine which laws, bottom up, aren't needed would be kind of interesting. And watching which ones were passed again because some people are morons would be even more interesting. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 October 28, 2010 Quote Not a bad opinion, either. A project to determine which laws, bottom up, aren't needed would be kind of interesting. And watching which ones were passed again because some people are morons would be even more interesting. Wendy P. Yes, but the problem is that sometimes sensible laws get repealed. Take, for example, the Florida law that prohibited unmarried women from skydiving on Sunday. And then they went and repealed it! WTF? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #22 October 28, 2010 you don't understand ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites