rehmwa 2 #51 October 19, 2010 Quote f answering honestly on a form does not get them deported or arrested, then they will be more willing to answer honestly. this is like it's ok for a murderer (pick a crime) to admit his crime on a job application provided he doesn't get arrested and it doesn't come into consideration for hiring - so, allow them to be honest as long as there isn't any consequences for their actions..... So you are really stating that you are ok with a group of people with no character???? Again - if they come forward and admit to the crime, then I have no issue with a policy change that takes the voluntary confession into consideration - the results could be granting a student visa, expedited citizenship, or big fines and deportation depending on the individual. You guys keep saying the only solution is a no risk option, blanketly applied to everyone, despite the fact of the illegality. I think that's weak and leads to further abuse. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #52 October 19, 2010 Quote...the technology exists to close the southern border. Fuckin' sweet! Could you give the Pentagon a ring and clue them in? They'd love to use your technology to close the Afghan-Pakistan border. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #53 October 19, 2010 >so, allow them to be honest as long as there isn't any consequences for >their actions. Nope. >So you are really stating that you are ok with a group of people with >no character? Sorry to see you dropping to the level of Turtle et al. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #54 October 19, 2010 it sure must be nice to criticise with any reprisal censored . anyway to OP , the trick to getting in state tuition , and then government scholarships , is first...http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7249505.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #55 October 19, 2010 Quote>so, allow them to be honest as long as there isn't any consequences for >their actions. Nope. >So you are really stating that you are ok with a group of people with >no character? Sorry to see you dropping to the level of Turtle et al. Dropping to? Is that a PA? Actrually, its a valid concern of mine. Wait until the fed tries to make it illegal to ask citizenship on a job app.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #56 October 19, 2010 >Dropping to? Is that a PA? Sorry, didn't intend it to be. I was referencing his recent reply to you: "Your strawhorse is interesting, but really you're just being contentious. I'm not a fan of people picking at posts and reinterpreting just to set up false debate." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #57 October 19, 2010 Quote>>So you are really stating that you are ok with a group of people with >no character? Sorry to see you dropping to the level of Turtle et al. so, now you are saying it's ok to do surgical experiments on kittens and babies too? I can't even look at my computer, I'm so disappointed. (I like that "et al" in there. so true) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #58 October 19, 2010 Quote>Dropping to? Is that a PA? Sorry, didn't intend it to be. ah ha! so you admit you were wrong (actually, I thought it was a fair read when you propose a system is desirable that allows them to admit the crime of illegal entry, but not be subject to deportation - honesty without responsibility is not really a win for anyone. - but, given that, what about the rest of the post instead of this little tangent about nothing) so I'm more interested in your take on this QuoteAgain - if they come forward and admit to the crime, then I have no issue with a policy change that takes the voluntary confession into consideration - the results could be granting a student visa, expedited citizenship, or big fines and deportation depending on the individual. You guys keep saying the only solution is a no risk option, blanketly applied to everyone, despite the fact of the illegality. I think that's weak and leads to further abuse. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #59 October 19, 2010 >so, now you are saying it's ok to do surgical experiments on kittens and >babies too? And immigrants, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #60 October 19, 2010 the way to get in state tuition, and then scamming scholarships and government programs is first...http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7249505.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #61 October 19, 2010 Quote>Dropping to? Is that a PA? Sorry, didn't intend it to be. Just an observation-Unless this has magically become "Relative Work" forum and Turtle is the base. There is NO WAY that phrasing isn't a PA.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
