NY Continues to Disenfranchise Voters

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But hey, it's only one group of voters, right? I mean shoot, NY lets felons vote, so who cares about thousands and thousands of men and women serving the country?
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EXCLUSIVE: New York Violating MOVE Act

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More than one week after its extended deadline, New York still hasn’t mailed out absentee ballots to all its 320,000 military servicemen and women and overseas voters, in clear violation of the MOVE Act, FoxNews.com has learned.

According to the 2009 MOVE Act, a state must send out its military and overseas ballots 45 days prior to elections.

New York was granted a waiver to this deadline by the Department of Justice and given an additional 15 days -- until October 1 -- to send out all its ballots. On October 5, New York State Board of Elections co-directors informed federal officials that the state had not fully met their extended deadline, according to an e-mail posted online at FVAP.gov, the website of the Defense Department agency tasked with overseeing military voting.
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edit to add: for those who doubt it, NY does allow felons to vote. They only bar inmates and parolees from voting.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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[likearock 2]

All they need is access to the Internet:

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/download/voting/Absentee06152010.pdf

[kelpdiver 2]

did you miss the point of the news article?

btw, your link says: "Your absentee ballot materials will be sent to you at least 32 days before federal, state, county, city or town elections in which you are eligible to vote."

Which isn't happening here.

[likearock 2]

My bad. I'm just surprised they can't do the whole thing (eligibility form plus ballot itself) electronically. It's such an unnecessary expense to have to mail out millions of ballots in today's age.

[kelpdiver 2]

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My bad. I'm just surprised they can't do the whole thing (eligibility form plus ballot itself) electronically. It's such an unnecessary expense to have to mail out millions of ballots in today's age.

there are ways it can be done. But thanks to the tendency to use a closed, private, and poorly secured Diebold, I'm not in favor of pushing the subject right now. I'd rather see the bsd folks hash it out and let the security guys bash on it for a few years.

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My bad. I'm just surprised they can't do the whole thing (eligibility form plus ballot itself) electronically. It's such an unnecessary expense to have to mail out millions of ballots in today's age.

there are ways it can be done. But thanks to the tendency to use a closed, private, and poorly secured Diebold, I'm not in favor of pushing the subject right now. I'd rather see the bsd folks hash it out and let the security guys bash on it for a few years.

I'm not talking about electronic voting - it's understandable that that's a big step with all kinds of IT security issues. But why not just make the ballots themselves available for people to print out, mark their vote, and mail in? It would save millions in taxpayer money compared to the present state of having to mail them out individually.

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My bad. I'm just surprised they can't do the whole thing (eligibility form plus ballot itself) electronically. It's such an unnecessary expense to have to mail out millions of ballots in today's age.

The logistics of the men and women in the field being allowed to excersize their constitutional (God Given) rights by a guy walking around with a sattelite uplinked laptop ballot box?

nooo - I don't see ANY problems there.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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he said "God" and capitalized it. who can we substitute as giver of rights? especially soldiers voting !

[likearock 2]

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My bad. I'm just surprised they can't do the whole thing (eligibility form plus ballot itself) electronically. It's such an unnecessary expense to have to mail out millions of ballots in today's age.

The logistics of the men and women in the field being allowed to excersize their constitutional (God Given) rights by a guy walking around with a sattelite uplinked laptop ballot box?

nooo - I don't see ANY problems there.

Not too good with reading followup posts, are we?

[kelpdiver 2]

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I'm not talking about electronic voting - it's understandable that that's a big step with all kinds of IT security issues. But why not just make the ballots themselves available for people to print out, mark their vote, and mail in? It would save millions in taxpayer money compared to the present state of having to mail them out individually.

well, that option does present a couple concerns- ballot stuffing, and inconsistency in the ballots that make them unreadable.

[likearock 2]

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I'm not talking about electronic voting - it's understandable that that's a big step with all kinds of IT security issues. But why not just make the ballots themselves available for people to print out, mark their vote, and mail in? It would save millions in taxpayer money compared to the present state of having to mail them out individually.

well, that option does present a couple concerns- ballot stuffing, and inconsistency in the ballots that make them unreadable.

All of which would be an order of magnitude less difficult to manage than full fledged e-voting. Seems to me a reasonable intermediate step. There's no doubt that it would be a cost saver.

[skipbelt 0]

any female soldiers from N.Y. here's why you're targeted for dienfrachisement !
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43436.html

[kelpdiver 2]

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I'm not talking about electronic voting - it's understandable that that's a big step with all kinds of IT security issues. But why not just make the ballots themselves available for people to print out, mark their vote, and mail in? It would save millions in taxpayer money compared to the present state of having to mail them out individually.

well, that option does present a couple concerns- ballot stuffing, and inconsistency in the ballots that make them unreadable.

All of which would be an order of magnitude less difficult to manage than full fledged e-voting. Seems to me a reasonable intermediate step. There's no doubt that it would be a cost saver.

how much does a stolen election cost?

true e-voting could at least be verifiable - you could look up your ballot. With this - you mail it in and hope.

[likearock 2]

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I'm not talking about electronic voting - it's understandable that that's a big step with all kinds of IT security issues. But why not just make the ballots themselves available for people to print out, mark their vote, and mail in? It would save millions in taxpayer money compared to the present state of having to mail them out individually.

well, that option does present a couple concerns- ballot stuffing, and inconsistency in the ballots that make them unreadable.

All of which would be an order of magnitude less difficult to manage than full fledged e-voting. Seems to me a reasonable intermediate step. There's no doubt that it would be a cost saver.

how much does a stolen election cost?

true e-voting could at least be verifiable - you could look up your ballot. With this - you mail it in and hope.

And that's different from present day absentee ballots - how?

The only difference is how the voters get their ballot forms.

[kelpdiver 2]

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how much does a stolen election cost?

true e-voting could at least be verifiable - you could look up your ballot. With this - you mail it in and hope.

And that's different from present day absentee ballots - how?

The only difference is how the voters get their ballot forms.

I have greater confidence that my standardize absentee ballot will be correctly scanned. And that they didn't print an extra 5M of these.

The Democrats would block what you propose, btw. Or what I propose.

[likearock 2]

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how much does a stolen election cost?

true e-voting could at least be verifiable - you could look up your ballot. With this - you mail it in and hope.

And that's different from present day absentee ballots - how?

The only difference is how the voters get their ballot forms.

I have greater confidence that my standardize absentee ballot will be correctly scanned.

Why? Your standardized ballots will probably be printed in much the same way. Moreover, there would undoubtedly be a barcode to disambiguate any printing variants.

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And that they didn't print an extra 5M of these.

It's fairly simple to associate each ballot with a unique registration ID (that's also integrated into the barcode). Copies would be spotted immediately.

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The Democrats would block what you propose, btw. Or what I propose.

Why do you say that? And would you say the same about the Republicans?

BTW, getting back to the original topic, both Schumer and the Justice Department are trying to resolve the issue so that the military vote can be fairly counted.

[skipbelt 0]

michelle , now possibly proud of U.S. takes a shot at voter repression...
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm